The Iran Crisis Is Here

[Sh1ne0n67]

Based on what I've seen, they just want Israel to bomb Iran why they cheer.

Did you see that in a carnival sideshow mirror?
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[Sh1ne0n67]

LETS BE CLEAR HERE:

We had a peace treaty with Iran which prevented them from obtaining nuclear weapons.

One of the two countries pulled out of that treaty. It was NOT Iran.

And Biden was NOT the president at that time.

....and yet, ironically, you want to blame Iran's nuclear ambitions on...Biden.


Sort of like blaming...Obama, for the millions of Covid deaths in 2020-2022 (oops, I spoke too soon, because you'll probably come up with some twisted logic to do just that.)

That Peace treaty was preventing nothing.
It's the exact parallel to all those measures
we used to stop the Kim family of N. Korea.
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[ll74]

Did you see that in a carnival sideshow mirror?
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I see it in the "I wish Israel would bomb Iran off the face of the earth" rhetoric on internet posts.

 

[Sh1ne0n67]

Uhhhh.......,


Whatever you say, what word is it that you are fond of? oh yeah, SPARKY.

You know, I see "I wish all Conservatives would DIE" rhetoric on internet posts. You people are so mean.
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[rockcasbah]

I think the USA is missing the boat by vilifying Iran, Cuba and Venezuela.

Each were, and should be, in the USA’s circle of trust.

 

[ll74]

The time line was ALWAYS an estimate. No one knew for certain how far along the Iranians were because the inspectors were not allowed into certain critical facilities. Because the time line was basically a fiction trotted out for public consumption then any side can assert anything they want. Fine.

But you're still stuck on finger pointing not solution finding, and apparently that's where the administration is stuck as well.

If the Iranians aren't stopped the Israeli's WILL nuke the Iranians just as surely as the Iranian's will nuke the Israeli's once they have a working weapon.

From February . This is the kind of rhetoric I mean

 

[Sean Renaud]

That Peace treaty was preventing nothing.
It's the exact parallel to all those measures
we used to stop the Kim family of N. Korea.
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That's not what any of the experts were saying. The fact that its parallel to what we did to North Korea is doesn't mean it would have gone the same way with Iran. Take a look at Russia over the last decade give or take. How is our treatment of that situation substantially different from what we did with Hitler?

 

[Sh1ne0n67]

Sorry, but yes, they were going to develop nukes and no one was going to stop them.


Allah wills it.
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[rockcasbah]

Did any of you read the Englush version of Putin’s recent address to that russian technical school?

 

[icanhelp1]

LETS BE CLEAR HERE:

We had a peace treaty with Iran which prevented them from obtaining nuclear weapons.

One of the two countries pulled out of that treaty. It was NOT Iran.

And Biden was NOT the president at that time.

....and yet, ironically, you want to blame Iran's nuclear ambitions on...Biden.


Sort of like blaming...Obama, for the millions of Covid deaths in 2020-2022 (oops, I spoke too soon, because you'll probably come up with some twisted logic to do just that.)

We never had a peace treaty with Iran. The initiative we had with Iran was strictly an Obama pie in the sky idea thinking that Iran would capitulate. It didn’t work then and it won’t work now. Trump’s Abraham accord had peace breaking out in the ME and Biden screwed that up also. Now you have increased turmoil between the US and the saudis. GO BIDEN!!!

 

[Sh1ne0n67]

Correction. That's, Let's Go Brandon!
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[Sean Renaud]

Sorry, but yes, they were going to develop nukes and no one was going to stop them.


Allah wills it.
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There isn't a lot of reasons to think they were going to develop nukes.

 

[Sh1ne0n67]

There is one, big, huge, glaring and unavoidable reason why: Israel has nukes.

Plus, of all the Middle Eastern countries/nations/cultures, Iran is one of the most arrogant,
steeped in its glorious history and desirous of being the New Persia, supreme masters of all they see.

In this world of ours, you are a nobody unless you have a nuke. The Mullahs especially want to be somebody
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[colddiesel]

Leaving in place the sanctions from the previous administration, actually putting even more pressure on Iran.

I don't rely on Biden for anything especially foreign policy. Biden is committing national suicide. Talk to me again when gas prices reach 8 bucks a gallon.

The Trump sanctions have been left in place. You therefore have no new policy or action to offer, and you have no idea how to put more pressure on.

In 2019 UK, Germany, and France who were totally pissed off by Trump walking away from the Iran Deal put in place a new facility to enable Iran to make many financial transactions to support International Trade. The USA could do nothing to stop that and Trump was left helpless. That is the mess Trump left behind when Biden thrashed him in the election.

America's enemies obviously do not trust her, But neither, post Trump do her allies.

Your last sentence is 'tough guy talk,' meaningless twaddle, which you and your party are too scared to back up. Just remember that during the Trump administration the USA cut itself off from Iranian oil, Russian oil, and Venezuelan oil, all because the great deal maker Trump wanted to play the tough guy rather than make a deal.

 

[Sean Renaud]

There is one, big, huge, glaring and unavoidable reason why: Israel has nukes.

Plus, of all the Middle Eastern countries/nations/cultures, Iran is one of the most arrogant,
steeped in its glorious history and desirous of being the New Persia, supreme masters of all they see.

In this world of ours, you are a nobody unless you have a nuke. The Mullahs especially want to be somebody
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Ther eis one big, huge glaring reason why Israel has nukes. The law literally does not apply to them. Not on what kinds of weapons they can posses, not on having an aparthied state. The citizens of Narnia play by whatever rules they see fit. That is the simple truth.

 

[Sh1ne0n67]

If you remember, we have the capacity to walk away from all of them,
but our Left simply lacks the will, prioritizing a pipe dream
and their green dreams over actual pipelines...


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[Sh1ne0n67]

Stop with your anti-Semitism Sean. It's 2022, not 1939...



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[Sean Renaud]

Stop with your anti-Semitism Sean. It's 2022, not 1939...



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There is nothing anti-Semetic about knowing that Israel is not one of the good guys. Sorry about that.

As for the Green Dream if Ronald Reagan hadn't fucked that up decades ago we'd probably be if not 100% self reliant for power, pretty damn near it.

 

[Sh1ne0n67]

We were 100% reliant on our own energy resources.

Who stopped that nonsense dead in its tracks?

Let me guess; and Wink, the go to

answer is TRUMP!



What did I win?
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[rockcasbah]

When Trump is re-elected, will Jared broker a peace deal between Israel & Iran?

 

[Sh1ne0n67]

Don't count your IFs before your BUTs...


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[HisArpy]

LETS BE CLEAR HERE:

We had a peace treaty with Iran which prevented them from obtaining nuclear weapons.

One of the two countries pulled out of that treaty. It was NOT Iran.

And Biden was NOT the president at that time.

....and yet, ironically, you want to blame Iran's nuclear ambitions on...Biden.


Sort of like blaming...Obama, for the millions of Covid deaths in 2020-2022 (oops, I spoke too soon, because you'll probably come up with some twisted logic to do just that.)

Let's be absolutely honest here...

Iran wasn't abiding by the terms of the treaty they signed. Anyone who says or believes they were is woefully ignorant. Anyone who says or believes that Iran will abide by any terms of any new treaty is even more fucking stupid.

 

[Chobham]

Ronald Reagan didn't "fuck it up", liberals fucked it up.

You want to get to all electric transportation? Fine. The ONLY way you're going to get there is to start building a LOT of nuclear power plants. If everyone were to buy an electric vehicle tomorrow, the entire electric grid in the US would go down on the day after. Wind and solar will NEVER supply the energy needs of this nation. The liberals used Three Mile Island to create a panic attack concerning nuclear power. They then went to work on fossil fuels starting with coal. It apparently never occurred to them that with plentiful nuclear power the fossil fueled plants would have died a quiet death based on pure economics.

I have zero objection to electric cars, trucks, trains or anything else electrically powered. (Well, not entirely true. It'd be a cold day in hell before I ever plopped my ass down in an electrically powered air liner.) But before any of that can occur you need to have the energy resources to provide the electricity to begin with. The fucking morons in DC are trying to put the cart before the horse.

 

[ll74]

Let's be absolutely honest here...

Iran wasn't abiding by the terms of the treaty they signed. Anyone who says or believes they were is woefully ignorant. Anyone who says or believes that Iran will abide by any terms of any new treaty is even more fucking stupid.

The agreement assumed Iran would not abide by the terms of the deal.

Unfortunately the US left before that part of the agreement could be leveraged.

 

[HisArpy]

That's not what any of the experts were saying. The fact that its parallel to what we did to North Korea is doesn't mean it would have gone the same way with Iran. Take a look at Russia over the last decade give or take. How is our treatment of that situation substantially different from what we did with Hitler?

Lol.

Are these the same "experts" CNN has on all the time which are constantly being proven wrong? Like those "Climate change is settled" experts?