A quote from Putin (shows what an unstable cvnt he is)

[mayfly13]

Here's the problem with that eplanation: Russia is bleeding population now. It's going to have 20-30% fewer people in it in 30 years than it does now. It doesn't need any more lebensraum. Russian birth rates are in the toilet (as are Ukrainian birth rates).

I think Putin is sending a different message with the nuclear facilities: Mess with me, and I'll make Chernobyl look like a dental x-ray.

Sorry, I sometimes struggle to communicate in writing.

What I meant (trying to paraphrase the speaker) was that Putin's battle plan might be twofold:
1. Try to directly take over militarily the military/political heads assassinate Zelensky etc,
2. Or to make Ukrainians capitulate through need and demoralization. In that sense, his methods would be: cutting the population from food and energy supplies, through conquering reactors & not allowing aid to get through, and demoralizing population through other means.

And that long-term, after conquering Ukraine, he plans to displace a chunk of Ukrainians into Russia, and move a chunk of Russians into Ukraine. Typical method used by Russians in the past. And a brutal regime of oppression of dissent,
----And That's why he's using the term "neo-nazis" etc.
Very carefully thought through, not histrionics or madness as the Press thinks.
"Whoever disagrees with me is a Nazi, so is either deported or eliminated."
A radicalized, brutal version of American cancel culture.






P.S.
*** I'm aware that I'm saying things that everybody knows
and that you guys have more knowledge in these areas.

I'm just trying to stimulate a discussion in this line.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

By pointing out that the Ukrainian government is in no sense Fascist or Nazi.

Are you really trying to suggest that someone who says he is anti-fascist might be something else entirely?

 

[pecksniff]

Are you really trying to suggest that someone who says he is anti-fascist might be something else entirely?

Well, I'm sure that does not apply to Antifa, if that's what you mean.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

He did everything useful a POTUS could have done, without risking direct conflict with a nuclear power.

That might float in a toilet, but not here.

If we can send Stingers, Javelins and other weaponry now, when lead is in the air, we could have easily sent that and more when Putin was merely moving troops into place 11 months ago.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Well, I'm sure that does not apply to Antifa, if that's what you mean.

Perish the thought! Just because they assault journalists, threaten bookstores, smash windows of those who speak against them, shout down and destroy the property of others with whom they disagree, doesn't mean they're not sincere about their anti-fascism.

But how do we sort out the real AFs from the fake AFs? Do we have to come to you?

 

[pecksniff]

Perish the thought! Just because they assault journalists, threaten bookstores, smash windows of those who speak against them, shout down and destroy the property of others with whom they disagree, doesn't mean

. . . that they actually do any of that.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

. . . that they actually do any of that.

They do all of it and more. So, again, does actual behavior factor in to whether one is fascist or anti-fascist, or is it all a "construct?"

 

[pecksniff]

They do all of it and more.

I think you're conflating several things. For instance, the anarchists who smashed windows in protest of the WTO meeting in Seattle in 1999 were not Antifa.

Furthermore, violent street politics are not distinctively Fascist tactics. Communists have history of similar tactics, as do Trumpers.

The LA riots were neither Fascist nor anti-Fascist, they were merely an expression of long-bottled-up frustration and resentment.