It's Time To Fire FBI Director Christopher Wray

[hogjack]

..****ssian collusion, obstruction of justice, quid pro quo, millions owed to the bank of China, being a traitor, a criminal, a Putin stooge,

Enough about Hillary Clinton!

 

[DeluxAuto]

LukCzech is broke. Try updating it.

What?

 

[Conager]

lolwut? lol

FYP, you "weido", YWIA!

 

[bellisarius]

Wait until Sullivan makes a ruling and hopefully he will order the exculpatory evidence unsealed.

A lot of people are going to have some 'splainin' to do.

 

[colddiesel]

She said Russian collusion was a hoax, it was true.

If that is the case would it not be a good idea to publish a completely un-redacted Mueller report. It would then either be exposed as a nonsense or it would show why the original concerns were so significant. Either way the American people could decide for themselves without William Barr having to bear the burden alone of being censor to the National conscience.

 

[DeluxAuto]

FYP, you "weido", YWIA!

You truly are a strange little person.

 

[Conager]

You truly are a strange little person.

Nuh, UHH! You are the "weid" one.

 

[bellisarius]

If that is the case would it not be a good idea to publish a completely un-redacted Mueller report. It would then either be exposed as a nonsense or it would show why the original concerns were so significant. Either way the American people could decide for themselves without William Barr having to bear the burden alone of being censor to the National conscience.

Agreed, but Barr is having to walk a tightrope here. He can't afford to have the nation completely turn against the FBI. While it is painfully obvious that there were some corrupt players at the higher levels the fact remains that there are many dedicated and honest field agents out there.

Here is the problem with ALL governments with large bureaucracies. Those agencies are not unlike mini-monarchies and as with all monarchies the rot starts at the top.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Are you just gonna yap at me all night again?

 

[HisArpy]

Any ass to back that check up Derpy? Nah you're a liar too.

And you're a weid little sycophant.

I do not lie.

Unlike some...

 

[HisArpy]

Agreed, but Barr is having to walk a tightrope here. He can't afford to have the nation completely turn against the FBI. While it is painfully obvious that there were some corrupt players at the higher levels the fact remains that there are many dedicated and honest field agents out there.

Here is the problem with ALL governments with large bureaucracies. Those agencies are not unlike mini-monarchies and as with all monarchies the rot starts at the top.

The problem is that Barr and the rest of the DC crowd don't get that the DOJ/FBI has zero reputation left.

It's not just the guys on the upper deck who fucked us, it was the people in the trenches too. They're job is to protect the US from criminal behavior EVEN IF the bad guys are their bosses.

It's why we have whistle blower statutes.

Yet NONE OF THEM did their job.

The DOJ/FBI's reputation is blown to hell and gone and no amount of CYA by Barr is going to fix that. If you cannot trust the cop on the street any more than you can't trust the cop in charge, you don't have a police/investigative agency, you have a protection racket with badges.

The ONLY way to get their reputation back is to clean house not just sweep the cobwebs in the attic.

 

[DeluxAuto]

I do not lie.

Unlike some...

Maybe so, you're just usually wrong.

Unlike some.

 

[HisArpy]

Maybe so, you're just usually wrong.

Unlike some.

You mean the "some" who are wrong when they constantly post that I lie?

You know, the "someones" such as yourself...

 

[Rightguide]

That would make *me* a liar.

As I've described you so many times.

 

[Rightguide]

If that is the case would it not be a good idea to publish a completely un-redacted Mueller report. It would then either be exposed as a nonsense or it would show why the original concerns were so significant. Either way the American people could decide for themselves without William Barr having to bear the burden alone of being censor to the National conscience.

Mueller's investigation has already been exposed as an absolute fraud. Where have you been? We now know, thanks to the IG report that Mueller knew the day he opened his investigation there was no evidence of collusion with the Russians and the Trump Campaign.

 

[Rightguide]

The problem is that Barr and the rest of the DC crowd don't get that the DOJ/FBI has zero reputation left.

It's not just the guys on the upper deck who fucked us, it was the people in the trenches too. They're job is to protect the US from criminal behavior EVEN IF the bad guys are their bosses.

It's why we have whistle blower statutes.

Yet NONE OF THEM did their job.

The DOJ/FBI's reputation is blown to hell and gone and no amount of CYA by Barr is going to fix that. If you cannot trust the cop on the street any more than you can't trust the cop in charge, you don't have a police/investigative agency, you have a protection racket with badges.

The ONLY way to get their reputation back is to clean house not just sweep the cobwebs in the attic.

In fact so much so I think it should be completely reorganized with much of its responsibilities shuttled back into other agencies, like an expanded U.S. Marshal Service, the intelligence community, the IRS, and the DEA.

 

[bellisarius]

In fact so much so I think it should be completely reorganized with much of its responsibilities shuttled back into other agencies, like an expanded U.S. Marshal Service, the intelligence community, the IRS, and the DEA.

Fellows, they tried that when J Edgar died. Obviously that didn't work.

The entire notion of a national police force has to be revisited as well as their scope of power.

 

[Adre]

All these hens clucking about the “lousy” FBI. It’s the exact same outfit that you clowns revered and at least one of you incessantly boasted about knowing and gossiping with a boatload of agents. You’re just pissed off that they don’t kowtow to your buffoon of a President.

 

[xoguy56webyosnt]

the leadership is corrupt. the rank and file are for the most part, not.you attacked the fbi when they went after clinton so......

 

[Adre]

I’ve never attacked the FBI. STFU.

 

[xoguy56webyosnt]

comey.you did

 

[Conager]

Fellows, they tried that when J Edgar died. Obviously that didn't work.

The entire notion of a national police force has to be revisited as well as their scope of power.

It's the ratchet affect. Once government gets power, programs or money at never gives it back. We have the VA ATF because of prohibition we got rid of prohibition but not the revenuers.

Although are air quality has been better for quite some time and I don't really pay attention to news program so I'm not sure if they still do it but it's some point we started having no burn days Inn the Phoenix area where you're not allowed to light a fire in your fireplace. Never mind that that might be your only source of heat. Once they have the agreed Authority to tell people what you could in couldn't legally burn when and where, they certainly aren't going to give that back.

I'm not going to be surprised at all if they eventually issue stay at home orders based on smog reports. We've had gas rational before based on the last digit of your license plate you could only get gas on certain days.

We need to break this up in twi several autonomous countries and just let the progressives have their little hell holes and have them leave the rest of us alone.

 

[colddiesel]

Mueller's investigation has already been exposed as an absolute fraud. Where have you been? We now know, thanks to the IG report that Mueller knew the day he opened his investigation there was no evidence of collusion with the Russians and the Trump Campaign.

You are ignoring the fundamental point which is: Every time any document is censored or redacted the person who does it will always be open to the charge 'what are they hiding.'

It makes no difference if the 'what are they hiding' charge is unfounded or not. Publishing the unvarnished whole report might have been uncomfortable, it might have been wrong, but censoring it was politically stupid. It's a mistake made most often by lawyers who think legal opinion will trump political realities - doesn't work, the festering sore goes on and on.

 

[hogjack]

Once government gets power, programs or money it never gives it back.

100% Correct

 

[bellisarius]

It's the ratchet affect. Once government gets power, programs or money at never gives it back. We have the VA ATF because of prohibition we got rid of prohibition but not the revenuers.

Although are air quality has been better for quite some time and I don't really pay attention to news program so I'm not sure if they still do it but it's some point we started having no burn days Inn the Phoenix area where you're not allowed to light a fire in your fireplace. Never mind that that might be your only source of heat. Once they have the agreed Authority to tell people what you could in couldn't legally burn when and where, they certainly aren't going to give that back.

I'm not going to be surprised at all if they eventually issue stay at home orders based on smog reports. We've had gas rational before based on the last digit of your license plate you could only get gas on certain days.

We need to break this up in twi several autonomous countries and just let the progressives have their little hell holes and have them leave the rest of us alone.

As an example, the telephone excise tax was put in place to pay for the Spanish-American War. Are we still paying for that? It's like a Pay Day Loan operation.