House Impeachment Hearings

Very smart to focus on the importance of Ukraine security and success to our national interests. It’s serious business, not something for fools like Giuliani to be involved in.
 
I love this matchup between Schiff and Nunes, an outstanding contrast in both style and substance.

And, I am glad Nunes is still burrowing deep into the rabbit hole of media/Deep State conspiracy against Trump. It looks like the Republicans have decided once again to double down on their paranoid conspiracy theories.

Schiff is speaking to the American public.
Nunes is speaking to the Fox News base.
 
Harpy stomped his feet and ran away mad. He did not want to hear what was at stake with holding up Congressionally appropriated military aid (not a personal check being written by Il Dookie in exchange for cheap political favors).

So far, these hearings are being run very professionally, and will at least put heat on Republican Senators to consider if Trump's gross behavior is a precedent they want to support.
 
Very smart to focus on the importance of Ukraine security and success to our national interests. It’s serious business, not something for fools like Giuliani to be involved in.

Yeah, especially since Obama refused to send Ukraine as much as one rifle.
Lots of blankets, lots of MREs.
That's how Crimea ended up under Russia's umbrella.
 
Yeah, especially since Obama refused to send Ukraine as much as one rifle.
Lots of blankets, lots of MREs.
That's how Crimea ended up under Russia's umbrella.

Oh look, another "but...but....Obama!" deflection.

And Trump's press secretary Grisham is saying for the record that Trump is NOT watching the proceedings, yet Trump is live-tweeting his responses to testimony nonstop.
 
Listening to the Republican's lawyer now.

Is the Republican tactic here really going to be to try to disavow an impeachable offense by focusing on Hunter Biden?

I approve of this tactic. ;)
 
goldman putting that question to taylor about 'in all your years as a ... blah blah blah ... ever seen another president withhold aid for political gain?'

taylor.... "No"

Yeah, that's called "leading the witness. It also is not incumbent on a president to use the diplomatic corps at all for anything. It's also not incumbent upon the president to do anything that the diplomatic corps thinks he needs to do. He's the actual President.

Why would he use the "regular channels" when PRIVATE phone calls with foreign leaders were publicly leaked. We now know the "whistlblower" was likely the leaker of those calls.

Your lead "witnesses" witnessed nothing at all.
 
Oh look, another "but...but....Obama!" deflection.

And Trump's press secretary Grisham is saying for the record that Trump is NOT watching the proceedings, yet Trump is live-tweeting his responses to testimony nonstop.

Not a deflection. You can't pretend military aid to Ukraine is important when Trump is president when Obama promised military aid to Ukraine and then stiffed them when the Russians moved in.
Typical Democrat.
 
Not a deflection. You can't pretend military aid to Ukraine is important when Trump is president when Obama promised military aid to Ukraine and then stiffed them when the Russians moved in.
Typical Democrat.

And YOU can't impeach Barack Obama because he's no longer in office.

Trump made a bad situation worse by attempting to bribe and extort Ukraine officials, no matter how much you try and spin it otherwise. That's a textbook high crime and an impeachable offense.
 
Listening to the Republican's lawyer now.

Is the Republican tactic here really going to be to try to disavow an impeachable offense by focusing on Hunter Biden?

I approve of this tactic. ;)

Sure it was an impeachable offense, but it was for a good cause!
 
And YOU can't impeach Barack Obama because he's no longer in office.

Trump made a bad situation worse by attempting to bribe and extort Ukraine officials, no matter how much you try and spin it otherwise. That's a textbook high crime and an impeachable offense.

You haven't got a witness to that yet.
Taylor's big moment came and went. He didn't witness anything. He heard something that someone else heard from someone else.
Pretty compelling case for you, perhaps.

No collusion with Russia. And nothing here.
You guys keep wishing and keep bitching and pissing and moaning about Trump. But there is nothing here.
Nothing.
And your "witnesses" today prove it.
 
I love this matchup between Schiff and Nunes, an outstanding contrast in both style and substance.

And, I am glad Nunes is still burrowing deep into the rabbit hole of media/Deep State conspiracy against Trump. It looks like the Republicans have decided once again to double down on their paranoid conspiracy theories.



Nunes is burrowing deep into the rabbit hole of media/Deep State conspiracy is because that's where Schiff been living.
 
And YOU can't impeach Barack Obama because he's no longer in office.

Trump made a bad situation worse by attempting to bribe and extort Ukraine officials, no matter how much you try and spin it otherwise. That's a textbook high crime and an impeachable offense.

Bobby, President Zelinsky has freely stated to the world press and issued a written statement that he was not pressured nor was there any "quid pro quo", bribery or extortion. Are you calling him a liar too?
 
Bobby, President Zelinsky has freely stated to the world press and issued a written statement that he was not pressured nor was there any "quid pro quo", bribery or extortion. Are you calling him a liar too?



Ratcliff just jackslapped Schiff into next week.
 
Listening to the Republican's lawyer now.

Is the Republican tactic here really going to be to try to disavow an impeachable offense by focusing on Hunter Biden?

I approve of this tactic. ;)

So do I, but the Republicans have to do something to get their positions into the record. The Democrats would do the same if conditions were reversed. It's up to those watching to determine what they take away from any of this. The crime was already out there for all to see (or, if you're a Republican, to ignore). This is all just hammering it down for the historical record. Whether or not he is removed, everyone, including his supporters, knows he deserves to be removed and that whatever stand they took on removal will now be something they have to live with down through history.

The headscratcher is the Republicans not understanding that they can only be in a better position by going back to disowning him--their position years ago--and moving on from there. Supporting him isn't going to get a bit better for them anytime in the future.
 
So do I, but the Republicans have to do something to get their positions into the record. The Democrats would do the same if conditions were reversed. It's up to those watching to determine what they take away from any of this. The crime was already out there for all to see (or, if you're a Republican, to ignore). This is all just hammering it down for the historical record. Whether or not he is removed, everyone, including his supporters, knows he deserves to be removed and that whatever stand they took on removal will now be something they have to live with down through history.

The headscratcher is the Republicans not understanding that they can only be in a better position by going back to disowning him--their position years ago--and moving on from there. Supporting him isn't going to get a bit better for them anytime in the future.

We're still waiting for the next Schiff blockbuster: Michael Avenatti's evidence that Trump and Kavanaugh organized parties where Ukraine midwives were gang-raped by Yale frat boys in the 1980s.
 
Nunes is burrowing deep into the rabbit hole of media/Deep State conspiracy is because that's where Schiff been living.
Nunes is losing the battle of wits.

Nunes tried to tie Obama's aside about flexibility with Russians to the invasion of Ukraine, and Schiff had to point out that Obama's comment happened two years before the invasion.
 
"Hearsay can be much better evidence than direct."

Uh ??

So not only are the Democrats ADMITTING their entire impeachment sham is based off of hearsay, but now they're trying to defend it. What a joke!
 
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