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[beezzz]

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446

 

[Rightguide]

you would rather believe the lying fascists at fox and the sinclair group.

I read the transcript, its 340 pages, it can be Googled and downloaded. I don't need CNN's partisan spin on it to understand plain English and his "opinions."

 

[beezzz]

Did the whistleblower scrub his social media footprint before filing his complaint?

If Eric Ciaramella is the Whistleblower, Democrats Have Made a Major Blunder and Their Credibility Will Evaporate.

 

[RoryN]

I read the transcript, its 340 pages

Most Obvious GB Lie of the Year Award has now been claimed!

 

[jaF0]

"Latest Impeachment News: Trump Tells Democrats To Forget Public Hearings
International Business Times|1 hour ago
President Trump attacked the impeachment investigation Friday as a "hoax" and "witch hunt," saying House Democrats should not be holding public hearings. Democrats have scheduled the hearing to begin next week with testimony from three veteran diplomats. As a runup to the public phase of the investigation into whether Trump abused the ..."


Dipshit rails against closed door 'secret' hearings.

Committees schedule open, public hearings.


Dipshit rails against open, public hearings.


Dipshit's a Dipshit.

 

[beezzz]

Most Obvious GB Lie of the Year Award has now been claimed!

I read it as well

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I read the transcript, its 340 pages, it can be Googled and downloaded. I don't need CNN's partisan spin on it to understand plain English and his "opinions."

Post a link.

 

[Adre]

I read the transcript, its 340 pages, it can be Googled and downloaded. I don't need CNN's partisan spin on it to understand plain English and his "opinions."

LIAR.

 

[Rightguide]

LIAR.

^^^
Porked in Deliverance. So sad.

 

[jaF0]

Transcripts detail officials' concern over Giuliani role in Ukraine policy
NY Post | Fri Nov 08, 2019 20:12 UTC

Two National Security Council experts told House investigators that they had serious concerns about Rudy Giuliani's efforts to affect U.S. policy in Ukraine, according to transcripts released by House Democrats Friday. Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, an

 

[beezzz]

Transcripts detail officials' concern over Giuliani role in Ukraine policy
NY Post | Fri Nov 08, 2019 20:12 UTC

Two National Security Council experts told House investigators that they had serious concerns about Rudy Giuliani's efforts to affect U.S. policy in Ukraine, according to transcripts released by House Democrats Friday. Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, an

so what?

 

[coati]

With what we know right now, even before the open hearings begin, it is obvious that Trump wanted to use Congressionally appropriated military aid to pressure Ukraine into making public statements that would support his crazy CrowdSrike conspiracy theory and cause political damage to Biden. Anyone who does not recognize that much is not worth responding to, because the majority of Senators will not be out there defending the CrowdSrike conspiracy theory any more than that majority defended Trump's birther conspiracy.

It appears that Deplorable Senators will have to say that Trump's behavior was simply not an impeachable offense.

Nikki Haley basically told CBS today, "no harm, no foul", meaning, Ukraine got the aid that had been held up, so all's well that ends well. No problem with a Republican President holding up aid to try to extract political favors, so he can turn around and do it again with impunity.

Lindsey Graham said recently that Trump's foreign policy was incoherent, so that should let him off the hook. The "incompetence" defense is that Trump did not intend to do any harm; he is just incompetent and was fully planning to give the aid. No problem with a Republican President being incompetent and having an incoherent foreign policy.

Others are saying that holding back much needed military aid for political advantage does not rise to the level of being an impeachable offense during the year before an election, and therefore the whole episode just should have been tolerated by the Democrats so that Trump could continue with the same behavior with other nations right up to the election. They also hold a low bar for the behavior of a Republican President.

And, there will be the continuing smokescreens about "unfair" process, even though the actions were clear. That smokescreen is just done for the benefit of the most ignorant voters who don't even really follow the news.

I have very little doubt that the Deplorable Senators will let Trump off the hook when the trial takes place in the Senate. They will continue to hold a dramatically lower standard of behavior for a Republican President than they did for Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama.

That's just who they are as a political party, representing the most deplorable aspects of the boomer generation.

 

[jaF0]

John Bolton would testify in Trump impeachment probe under certain legal conditions, report says
CNBC|1 day ago
Former national security advisor John Bolton was a no-show Thursday for a scheduled deposition in the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump — but Bolton is reportedly still willing ...


Heeeeere's Johnny!!

 

[OldJourno]

Transcripts detail officials' concern over Giuliani role in Ukraine policy
NY Post | Fri Nov 08, 2019 20:12 UTC

Two National Security Council experts told House investigators that they had serious concerns about Rudy Giuliani's efforts to affect U.S. policy in Ukraine, according to transcripts released by House Democrats Friday. Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, an

Officials are concerned about Giuliani's role? Who is in charge here?
Giuliani's role was defined by the president, and the president is in charge, not the "officials" who are "concerned" about U.S. "policy" which is set by Trump.

 

[coati]

Officials are concerned about Giuliani's role? Who is in charge here?
Giuliani's role was defined by the president, and the president is in charge, not the "officials" who are "concerned" about U.S. "policy" which is set by Trump.

Hey, exactly! And it was Trump's foreign policy to pressure foreign leaders to make supporting public statements about a wacky conspiracy theory and about Biden being a crooked guy.

Good to be on the same page about who was driving that brilliant foreign policy. Can't blame Giuliani for going rogue. Republicans will stand by their genius, because they have such a high standard for developing a coherent foreign policy that is free of election politics.

 

[jaF0]

^^ It's really not worth responding to the BBs.

 

[coati]

^^ It's really not worth responding to the BBs.

In my book, the BBs are BotBoy and Busybody, because they grossly violate Lit Guidelines. With anyone else, I will respond as much as I feel like responding.

In this case, with Old Journo, I was agreeing with him wholeheartedly. The buck stops with Trump.

 

[jaF0]

OJ, RG, Box, Heather, Shelly and a few others are all BBs.

 

[coati]

OJ, RG, Box, Heather, Shelly and a few others are all BBs.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

 

[OldJourno]

Hey, exactly! And it was Trump's foreign policy to pressure foreign leaders to make supporting public statements about a wacky conspiracy theory and about Biden being a crooked guy.

Good to be on the same page about who was driving that brilliant foreign policy. Can't blame Giuliani for going rogue. Republicans will stand by their genius, because they have such a high standard for developing a coherent foreign policy that is free of election politics.

Wacky conspiracy theory?
You mean the very real story of Biden insisting the prosecutor investigating Burisma be fired before $1 billion in foreign aid is delivered? The same Burisma that is paying cokehead Hunter Biden over $50,000 a month even though the former Veep's son knows nothing of Ukraine or the oil or gas industry.
Yeah, that's a wacky conspiracy theory.
But if you read the official transcript of the phone call you'll find that there was no pressure.
As to whether or not Trump's foreign policy is brilliant, that's really not the point. He's the president. He sets foreign policy.

 

[jomar]

Wacky conspiracy theory?
You mean the very real story of Biden insisting the prosecutor investigating Burisma be fired before $1 billion in foreign aid is delivered? The same Burisma that is paying cokehead Hunter Biden over $50,000 a month even though the former Veep's son knows nothing of Ukraine or the oil or gas industry.
Yeah, that's a wacky conspiracy theory.
But if you read the official transcript of the phone call you'll find that there was no pressure.
As to whether or not Trump's foreign policy is brilliant, that's really not the point. He's the president. He sets foreign policy.

Get your story straight:

...At the heart of Congress' probe into the president's actions is his claim that former Vice President and 2020 Democratic frontrunner Joe Biden strong-armed the Ukrainian government to fire its top prosecutor in order to thwart an investigation into a company tied to his son, Hunter Biden.

But sources ranging from former Obama administration officials to an anti-corruption advocate in Ukraine say the official, Viktor Shokin, was ousted for the opposite reason Trump and his allies claim.

It wasn't because Shokin was investigating a natural gas company tied to Biden's son; it was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians, according to a Ukrainian official and four former American officials who specialized in Ukraine and Europe...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...orced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/

 

[coati]

Wacky conspiracy theory?
You mean the very real story of Biden insisting the prosecutor investigating Burisma be fired before $1 billion in foreign aid is delivered? The same Burisma that is paying cokehead Hunter Biden over $50,000 a month even though the former Veep's son knows nothing of Ukraine or the oil or gas industry.
Yeah, that's a wacky conspiracy theory.

Don't play dumb. There were two issues Trump asked the Ukrainian President to make a public statement about, not just the alleged Biden influence in getting his kid a seat on the board of Burisma.

You conveniently left out the wacky conspiracy theory about Ukrainian operatives setting up Trump's pal Putin to take the fall for election meddling. Yeah, the so-called CrowdStrike conspiracy theory, the one that Giuliani was pushing and the first issue mentioned by Trump in his phone call, according to the transcript you revere.

Wacky. There is no other way to describe that conspiracy theory. That is now the face of Trump's foreign policy.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Giulianai is his personal lawyer.

POTUS is supposed to act on behalf of the US. So by sending his PERSONAL ATTORNEY he's not "setting US foreign policy" at all--he's using the apparatus of the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT to conduct his own personal bizness, you said it yourself.

Officials are concerned about Giuliani's role? Who is in charge here?
Giuliani's role was defined by the president, and the president is in charge, not the "officials" who are "concerned" about U.S. "policy" which is set by Trump.

 

[OldJourno]

Don't play dumb. There were two issues Trump asked the Ukrainian President to make a public statement about, not just the alleged Biden influence in getting his kid a seat on the board of Burisma.

You conveniently left out the wacky conspiracy theory about Ukrainian operatives setting up Trump's pal Putin to take the fall for election meddling. Yeah, the so-called CrowdStrike conspiracy theory, the one that Giuliani was pushing and the first issue mentioned by Trump in his phone call, according to the transcript you revere.

Wacky. There is no other way to describe that conspiracy theory. That is now the face of Trump's foreign policy.

Yeah, we'll see how wacky all of this is. But now the focus is on Crowdstrike, so I guess you might be conceding Biden's cokehead son landing a job that pays him a half-million a year after dad stepped in might smell just a bit.
No, I guess you are conceding Cokehead Hunter Biden's job just reeks of the old man's influence, and that he wouldn't have the job without the old man threatening to withhold U.S. foreign aid.
Cokehead and Dad also struck it rich in China while the old man was Veep.
Nice name for a company, eh? Cokehead and Dad, Inc.
I'm a patient guy. Let's see what happens with Crowdstrike.

 

[Curmudgeonly]

Fascinating to see all the self-appointed foreign policy wonks with Ukraine as their special area of expertise.

Seems like those that abhor a delay in "weapons of war" are the very same ones who want to rid their cities of less lethal versions of such.. I don't remember all these pimps for the military industrial complex objecting to the last administration's outright refusal to send arms of any description.

What changed?