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KeithD said:
Is it going to surprise anyone that, although there may be one chosen person coming forward, as needed, as the whistleblower, that it's going to turn out that this was a whole bunch of folks in the Intel community putting what they knew together? That's pretty evident from the content of the complaint.
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"The actual verbiage has been released"

Oh, yeah? Cite it. An administration-provided summary of the phone call has been released. Cite where the recording or verbatim, complete transcript, undoctored by the lying administration, has been released.

And there is sooo much more in the charge, which, undoubtedly, OJ hasn't actually read.
 
Could we get both Donny and Whiney for the same event? A Twofer?



Lock'em Up!!!
 
 
OldJourno said:
He's not a snitch. He's a liar, a fabricator. The "whistleblower" is no longer a key player in this issue because the actual verbiage has been released.
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Second hand information is not lying or fascination. Trump himself had already corroborated multiple aspects of the whistle blower report. I see the dumbass faux lawyer is asserting it is which is just embarrassing.
 
RobDownSouth said:
It's Trump Derangement Syndrome, something one suspects you are intimately familiar with...
https://i.imgur.com/1D7kkWe.jpg
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Just like with economic activity the left proves they can't do ANYTHING on their own, the only thing they can do is take from others and ruin.

Instead of coming up with their own shit the left tries to hijack TDS.

LOL that's the most pathetic thing Rob has posted yet. :D
 
Carnal_Flower said:
Cite? No one's confirmed anything about a "DOJ Investigation into Hunter Biden." That would be big news. Feel free to provide a link.
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The Department of Justice confirmed today that Ukraine’s role in 2016 election meddling is being investigated and that some Ukrainians are already cooperating with the probe. “

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/2...with-doj-probe-of-2016-election-interference/
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I am of the opinion that this ongoing investigation also includes the role of the prosecutor who was dismissed just before beginning an investigation into Hunter Biden. Otherwise, the hue and cry over Trump mentioning it would be non-existent.
 
zipman said:
Second hand information is not lying or fascination. Trump himself had already corroborated multiple aspects of the whistle blower report. I see the dumbass faux lawyer is asserting it is which is just embarrassing.
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Lol.

See: hearsay.
 
HisArpy said:
Lol.

See: hearsay.
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Hearsay: An out of court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
Black's says nothing about a hearsay statement automatically being a fabrication of evidence, does it? But you, being a lawyer and having taken at least one evidence class in law school, already knew that, didn't you? You do have a Black's within easy reach, don't you? Mine is conveniently located on the bookshelf above my desk. Granted it's only a 5th edition, but hearsay is so well ingrained in the law that I seriously doubt the definition has been recently changed to incorporate an assumption of fabrication.

Evidence having an inherent weakness is not the same as fabricated evidence. You, being a lawyer, should know the difference.

Having said all that, an impeachment investigation is not a trial, so investigators can listen to hearsay all day long, if they want to. As in: "What did so and so tell you about such and such?"
 
doowdniw said:
Hearsay: An out of court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
Black's says nothing about a hearsay statement automatically being a fabrication of evidence, does it? But you, being a lawyer and having taken at least one evidence class in law school, already knew that, didn't you? You do have a Black's within easy reach, don't you? Mine is conveniently located on the bookshelf above my desk. Granted it's only a 5th edition, but hearsay is so well ingrained in the law that I seriously doubt the definition has been recently changed to incorporate an assumption of fabrication.

Evidence having an inherent weakness is not the same as fabricated evidence. You, being a lawyer, should know the difference.

Having said all that, an impeachment investigation is not a trial, so investigators can listen to hearsay all day long, if they want to. As in: "What did so and so tell you about such and such?"
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*like*




The whistleblower will testify before Schiff’s comittee.
 
doowdniw said:
Hearsay: An out of court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
Black's says nothing about a hearsay statement automatically being a fabrication of evidence, does it? But you, being a lawyer and having taken at least one evidence class in law school, already knew that, didn't you? You do have a Black's within easy reach, don't you? Mine is conveniently located on the bookshelf above my desk. Granted it's only a 5th edition, but hearsay is so well ingrained in the law that I seriously doubt the definition has been recently changed to incorporate an assumption of fabrication.

Evidence having an inherent weakness is not the same as fabricated evidence. You, being a lawyer, should know the difference.

Having said all that, an impeachment investigation is not a trial, so investigators can listen to hearsay all day long, if they want to. As in: "What did so and so tell you about such and such?"
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Lol, here we go with the "it's not a trial!!!!" thing again. It's like you just can't help yourself - get backed into a corner by the rules of fair play and those are the first words out of your mouth.

Of course it's not a trial (yet). Does that mean you can lie and cheat and bear false witness anyway? Do you think that people can't see that your entire position is SMEAR rather than truth? Do you believe that makes you look better in the eyes of those who are reading/listening to you LIE about it?

What an idjit you turned out to be.

Then there's this:

Basically, hearsay is a statement being used to prove veracity.

Let's examine that for a bit. A statement which is not based on direct observation is NOT TRUTH. It is a statement based on belief rather than percipient events.

"They told me it was a red car" is hearsay. The previous statement being shortened to "It was a red car" is still hearsay if based on the same situation of the witness being told the car's color. Yet it's being stated that way to avoid the obvious hearsay aspect. That makes it false testimony because it's being said as if it were a fact actually observed by the speaker.

What do we call it when people knowingly state facts that aren't true?

What do we call it when people make up facts in order to incriminate someone?

Fabrication of evidence doesn't require a trial either. When you lie, you fabricate evidence against the one you lie about. This is what makes lying so disgusting, it shows how dishonorable you are in your attempt to harm and victimize another who is innocent of the things you claim were done.

It is also the worst form of fearmongering that can trace it's roots back to the days when old crones were blamed for everything bad that happened in the village. From the cow going dry to babies being born deformed, they were blamed. And then executed for it.

YOU do the same when you either directly participate or fail to deny the same tactics when they are used today. Which makes you just as culpable. And will always make you just as culpable until you stand up for TRUTH instead of supporting the mob.
 
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