Abortion

[badbabysitter]

He's playing semantics.

A newborn will die after a few days if abandoned.

A fetus will die in a matter of minutes if the umbilical cord is cut.


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He's playing ignorant, and I do not think he is playing

 

[Matthew Craig]

on what planet does a one year old die if physically disconnected from its mother?

If you're going to get technical your idiot shit argument will fall to pieces starting at conception. Funny how that works, eh fucktard?

 

[badbabysitter]

And you still haven’t convinced me that a fetus isn’t a human being. I’m finding it hard to believe women lay eggs in the delivery room. Kant

I'm finding it hard to believe you think something with no lungs, spine or brain is the same as the postman

 

[badbabysitter]

If you're going to get technical your idiot shit argument will fall to pieces starting at conception. Funny how that works, eh fucktard?

How?

it cant survive then either

you really don't get how babies are made, do you?

 

[Matthew Craig]

I'm finding it hard to believe you think something with no lungs, spine or brain is the same as the postman

You love to move them goalposts don't you, fucktard.

 

[Kantarii]

He's playing semantics.

A newborn will die after a few days if abandoned.

A fetus will die in a matter of minutes if the umbilical cord is cut.

You almost had me convinced until you said a fetus would die if the umbilical chord is cut. I cut both my kids umbilical chords. They didn’t die.
Kant

 

[Matthew Craig]

How?

it cant survive then either

you really don't get how babies are made, do you?

From the moment of conception it is life, inside and out.

 

[Kantarii]

How?

it cant survive then either

you really don't get how babies are made, do you?

You mean how an embryo or a fetus is made, in your argument. Remember, you said a fetus isn’t a human being. So you can’t start using the word baby here because that would mean the baby is a human being and not a fetus.

 

[Hal9000_]

You almost had me convinced until you said a fetus would die if the umbilical chord is cut. I cut both my kids umbilical chords. They didn’t die.
Kant

I'm not trying to convince anyone. The definition of "fetus" is unborn. Actually 8 weeks on after fertilization.

Any fetus will die without life support through the cord.

 

[heathergives]

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[badbabysitter]

You love to move them goalposts don't you, fucktard.

I stated one thing and have not budged on it


you keep trying to make it out into what its not

name call all you want, you have brought nothing to prove your assertion or to disprove mine

 

[Matthew Craig]

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Again, it's not just their body anymore. We've gone through this already, kikel.

 

[jaF0]

^^^^
Let's take bets re: how long it'll take these deplorables to acknowledge this point in any meaningful way.

My money is on never.

Still waiting ....

 

[badbabysitter]

You mean how an embryo or a fetus is made, in your argument. Remember, you said a fetus isn’t a human being. So you can’t start using the word baby here because that would mean the baby is a human being and not a fetus.

I can say whatever the fuck I want

I'm using baby because anti-choicers clearly don't get what the fuck a fetus is, so I have to dumb it down

until it can survive out side the mother, its not a person

Nothing , and I do mean nothing can make that any different


Science bitches

 

[butters]

You almost had me convinced until you said a fetus would die if the umbilical chord is cut. I cut both my kids umbilical chords. They didn’t die.
Kant

i assume they were actually born when you did that? which makes them babies no longer dependent on the umbilical. jeez.

I'm not trying to convince anyone. The definition of "fetus" is unborn. Actually 8 weeks on after fertilization.

Any fetus will die without life support through the cord.

precisely.

 

[badbabysitter]

Again, it's not just their body anymore. We've gone through this already, kikel.

And you were wrong , science is a bitch

 

[heathergives]

Again, it's not just their body anymore. We've gone through this already, kikel.

Women are not owned anymore, asshole. Women aren't chattel, no matter what you may think.


Funny, how the ones doing most of the protesting in here are a bunch of old white men.

 

[Matthew Craig]

I stated one thing and have not budged on it


you keep trying to make it out into what its not

name call all you want, you have brought nothing to prove your assertion or to disprove mine

Mother nature clearly outlines it takes a sperm and an egg. And at the point of union of the two life is created. It's not even scientific, it's how all life starts. You are beyond degenerate and abhorrently stupid.

 

[badbabysitter]

You almost had me convinced until you said a fetus would die if the umbilical chord is cut. I cut both my kids umbilical chords. They didn’t die.
Kant

Don't be a dumbass, please

I said survive unaided.. at that point in development it doesn't need the mother survive

Need

Do you know what need means?

 

[badbabysitter]

Mother nature clearly outlines it takes a sperm and an egg. And at the point of union of the two life is created. It's not even scientific, it's how all life starts. You are beyond degenerate and abhorrently stupid.

Holy fuck

Sperm magic is your answer to a fetus surviving outside a womb?

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Yep. Because it's love the fetus, hate the child.

Conservitards who care so much about the BAAAABIEES are the same ones to cut healthcare including prenatal care, school lunches, sane gun control, etc etc etc

Dumbest of all is trying to go after contraception LMAO. There is a direct correlation between making it harder to get BC and -----> increase in abortions. And yet that's what they do.

Which just proves the point is NOT about the BAAABIEESS they don't give a rat's ass about, but about controlling and punishing women.

Yes, there are options. And abortion is one of them.

Carry the fetus to term. Put it up for adoption. Have an abortion

These are choices aka pro-choice

Adoption is funded through medical programs and social security, and historically conservative governments have always gutted adoption programs

Its mind boggling, they don't want women to be allowed to chose what they can do with their bodies and then want to ensure the child has a shitty future

 

[Matthew Craig]

Women are not owned anymore, asshole. Women aren't chattel, no matter what you may think.

This has literally nothing to do with slavery, Islam, (which both men and women are guilty of) and everything to do with IT'S NOT JUST HER BODY ANYMORE.

 

[Matthew Craig]

Holy fuck

Mind blowing, but i'm glad you finally see the light, heathen.

 

[heathergives]

This has literally nothing to do with slavery, Islam, (which both men and women are guilty of) and everything to do with IT'S NOT JUST HER BODY ANYMORE.

You (conveniently) forgot the rest of my post:

Funny, how the ones doing most of the protesting in here are a bunch of old white men.

 

[docoral]

How?

it cant survive then either

you really don't get how babies are made, do you?

Well well well, if it isn't the Queen of Mean calling us stupid again. I would have thought you could understand the moral issue here, I guess that cold Canadian air is affecting your brain. So let's try this again. Your ignorance rings hollow again. I guess you being an agnostic you have no clue that there is a moral side to this argument, but you have to have a moral compass to engage with that idea. It seems your favorite tactic is to paint everything with a broad brush and oversimplify things to benefit your argument.

So, let me try to understand what you're spouting off here. So, if you are pro life then you don't have a clue as to how a woman's reproductive system works. You could argue that women who have unprotected sex don't understand either,[ MAN- WOMAN- SEX- BABY ] that insinuation is pretty far fetch, even coming from you, actually, that's pretty ridiculous. What's really sad is that if we disagree with you we're stupid, I guess in Canada the way to win arguments is to just call everybody who disagree's with you 'STUPID'

You see, some people around here feel pretty strongly about protecting the defenseless and the innocent. Now most reasonable people would agree that a fetus gone wrong leading to a crippling defect requires hard analysis between the doctor and mother on allowing this fetus to come to full term and the effects it would have on both ( child and mother ). I believe that discussion starts and ends in that office and is no one else's business. The percentage of those abortions equate to approximately 2.66% of all abortions nation wide, a very small number, but you could argue a valid reason for abortion. Only the hardest of the pro life would argue against an abortion, one being the Catholic church, which is against all abortions. Once again save your 'priest are pettifiles' for a rainy day argument.

I can smell your teeny teeny weeny brain working overtime now. So let's choose some other categories of abortion, a previous year's statistics,

1. <0.5% victim of rape
2. 4% physical health problems ( mother )
3. 2.6% abnormal fetus
4. 0.001 INCEST

TOTAL 7.2 % ( approximately ) most reasonable people would accept as legitimate.

Other reasons:

1. 4% would interfere with college
2. 7% not mature enough to raise a child
3. 8% don't want to be a single mother
4. 19% don't want more children
5. 23% can't afford another baby
6. 25% not ready for a child
7. 6% other

Total 92.8%....... pro life would consider unacceptable, irresponsible and immoral. Planned parenthood's bread and butter! Kill the little girl or guy for money for the sake of women's right to choose. It's not about women's rights, it about taking the easy way out because they fucked up. I want to say one other thing, GUYS WHO WALK AWAY FROM THAT WOMAN AFTER THE DEED IS DONE AND DON'T ACCEPT EQUAL SHARE OF THE RESPONSIBILITY ARE THE ABSOLUTE LOWEST FORMS OF LIFE ON THE PLANET, PIECES OF SHIT!!!..... A little planning goes a long way. Want to play but not pay. It's not like there is no place for these babies to go, there are many thousands of couples who would take then in a heartbeat. Just think BADBABYTSITTER!!! If your mom changed her mind about you, well, we would certainly miss all your B__L S__T, *** JUST SAYING***.

Approximately 51% abort by week seven, but then the argument becomes, when is a baby a baby?