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[nowisthetime]

So if I've got this straight, you are comparing wMAGA hats to swastikas though Trump has killed no Jews nor threatened to round up and exterminate any ethnic group.
At the same time, many MAGA haters seem ready to endorse political ideas that have resulted in the deaths of millions in Europe and Asia in the last 100 years while impoverishing millions of others.
I'm not sure I've ever even seen anyone wearing a MAGA hat, but if I do I won't make any snap judgments about the person who has it on.

You seem slow and highly defiant, ask yourself this question, did Drumpf campaign on unity and appreciation of diversity?


Did he run a Sugar and Peaches campaign?



Do you know how hatred starts? I know you are one foot from the grave, and you don't care, but please, at least use your brain.


Jews weren't the only ones killed or targeted by Nazis. Do you know how fascism starts? The Nazi atrocities didn't just occur overnight, it was slow simmering and it started with dehumanization, several steps and we know what finally happened.

I don't think you understand how history works, nor do you probably care.

 

[OldJourno]

It is not a comparison in the way you're implying.

What's the legitimate swastika comparison? Is there one?

 

[RoryN]

.....

 

[OldJourno]

You seem slow and highly defiant, ask yourself this question, did Drumpf campaign on unity and appreciation of diversity?


Did he run a Sugar and Peaches campaign?



Do you know how hatred starts? I know you are one foot from the grave, and you don't care, but please, at least use your brain.


Jews weren't the only ones killed or targeted by Nazis. Do you know how fascism starts? The Nazi atrocities didn't just occur overnight, it was slow simmering and it started with dehumanization, several steps and we know what finally happened.

I don't think you understand how history works, nor do you probably care.

I always love your peaches and cream responses. Never any hatred there.
But tell me who Trump is dehumanizing? Tell me which Americans are at risk? Is it the people who are working again for the first time in years?
In Mexico and points south I see a great deal of turmoil, incredibly high murder rates, and I don't want it flowing into my country. Do you?
I want to pick and choose who comes in.

 

[RoryN]

What's the legitimate swastika comparison? Is there one?

https://i.imgur.com/wwrdh8s.jpg

 

[von_Bismarck]

What's the legitimate swastika comparison? Is there one?

The point of comparison is how a symbol of a thing, and the act of symbolizing, gets to be an objective fact about the symbol.

 

[RoryN]

https://i.imgur.com/eUNNuI8.jpg

 

[nowisthetime]

https://i.imgur.com/wwrdh8s.jpg

Pretty much!

 

[jp55665566]

You seem slow and highly defiant, ask yourself this question, did Drumpf campaign on unity and appreciation of diversity?


Did he run a Sugar and Peaches campaign?



Do you know how hatred starts? I know you are one foot from the grave, and you don't care, but please, at least use your brain.


Jews weren't the only ones killed or targeted by Nazis. Do you know how fascism starts? The Nazi atrocities didn't just occur overnight, it was slow simmering and it started with dehumanization, several steps and we know what finally happened.

I don't think you understand how history works, nor do you probably care.

In this conversation, who is dehumanizing who? I see a group of people dehumanizing U.S. citizens who voted for the candidate of their choice. Espousing not only violence and hatred toward Trump voters, but furthermore delighting in the prospect of President Trump's bloody severed head being raised, in some sort of moral victory, by Kathy Griffin types. People like me think the LEFT has become akin to a rabid mob, attacking people in the street for wearing a hat, calling citizens who support their President all sorts of vile, dehumanizing names. Is that who you are, or are you being manipulated?

 

[jp55665566]

Pretty much!

Don't forget, that great bastion of liberalism Time Magazine, named Adolf Hitler it's Man Of The Year.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/a8/c9/23a8c99f67e0ed79e6f3f363def5d164.jpg

 

[DeluxAuto]

Don't forget, that great bastion of liberalism Time Magazine, named Adolf Hitler it's Man Of The Year.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/a8/c9/23a8c99f67e0ed79e6f3f363def5d164.jpg

You're painfully ignorant. Look up why he was named man of the year and what the title means.

 

[Kirkrapine]

What's the legitimate swastika comparison? Is there one?

Both are symbols of racism, intolerance, arrogant nationalism, a sense of injured privilege, willful ignorance, authoritarianism, and contempt for democracy, human rights, the rule of law, and the free press.

The MAGA hat is at least not a symbol of murderous aggressive genocidal imperialism, but that is a difference of degree, not of kind.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The point of comparison is how a symbol of a thing, and the act of symbolizing, gets to be an objective fact about the symbol.

The MAGA hat has had a trajectory similar to the Confederate stars 'n bars flag. It might have been born of completely innocent or altruistic intentions, but was eventually co-opted as a symbol of hate by fringe-right conservatives.

 

[jp55665566]

You're painfully ignorant. Look up why he was named man of the year and what the title means.

Yes, i am painfully ignorant. why don't you go ahead and talk about the subject instead of just making personal attacks?

 

[Kirkrapine]

Don't forget, that great bastion of liberalism Time Magazine, named Adolf Hitler it's Man Of The Year.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/a8/c9/23a8c99f67e0ed79e6f3f363def5d164.jpg

A recognition of importance, not admirability. One year their Thing of the Year was the personal computer.

 

[von_Bismarck]

The MAGA hat has had a trajectory similar to the Confederate stars 'n bars flag. It might have been born of completely innocent or altruistic intentions, but was eventually co-opted as a symbol of hate by fringe-right conservatives.

Candi would probably be helpful in a discussion like this, about the sociology of symbols, and what the markers are for a thing to be a symbol. But, yeah, I tend to agree. MAGA hats are probably comparable to the Confederate flag, morally speaking.

 

[RoryN]

Don't forget, that great bastion of liberalism Time Magazine, named Adolf Hitler it's Man Of The Year.

Fuck, you're stupid.

 

[Oblimo]

Are you a comedian? "profiting from hat sales" haha you are kidding. nice one, maybe.

Trump has been literally selling them for a profit for a couple years now at least.

 

[Hal9000_]

You're painfully ignorant. Look up why he was named man of the year and what the title means.

Understanding is painful.

In this case, excruciating.

 

[rae121452]

dear op: yes. next question?

 

[Kirkrapine]

Candi would probably be helpful in a discussion like this, about the sociology of symbols, and what the markers are for a thing to be a symbol. But, yeah, I tend to agree. MAGA hats are probably comparable to the Confederate flag, morally speaking.

Not quite so bad as that; the hats have not -- yet -- been associated with slavery or treason. With a traitor, but not with treason. Trump is a Russian puppet, but the useless idiots who wear his hat are not, at least not intentionally.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Yes, i am painfully ignorant. why don't you go ahead and talk about the subject instead of just making personal attacks?

If you're aware that you're painfully ignorant, is it really a personal attack?

 

[von_Bismarck]

Not quite so bad as that; the hats have not -- yet -- been associated with slavery or treason. With a traitor, but not with treason. Trump is a Russian puppet, but the useless idiots who wear his hat are not, at least not intentionally.

I can accept that, too, in principle. But in terms of moral significance, it's getting pretty bad. The hats are associated with a man who is an asset of a hostile foreign power, and by extension those who are willing to forgive and disregard that. They're also associated with doing violence to, and killing protesters.

 

[jp55665566]

haha i thought you guys were doing some kind of SNL act. Right, President is an asset of Russia? wow. and you are serious right?

 

[DeluxAuto]

haha i thought you guys were doing some kind of SNL act. Right, President is an asset of Russia? wow. and you are serious right?

You believe in every ridiculous conspiracy but you don't believe that Trump could possibly a Russian asset.