Trump’s Wall

[Que]

There would only be reports if they got caught.

So unlike Emerson that thinks that that would be an effective way to circumvent the wall, rather than a good way to be slow down long enough to be caught, you believe it's possible that there has been a near hundred percent success rate on such attempts. That certainly sounds reasonable.

 

[Kirkrapine]

So unlike Emerson that thinks that that would be an effective way to circumvent the wall, rather than a good way to be slow down long enough to be caught, you believe it's possible that there has been a near hundred percent success rate on such attempts. That certainly sounds reasonable.

Indeed it does. It's a long wall. Piece of cake to find an unpatrolled stretch.

 

[Hal9000_]

Indeed it does. It's a long wall. Piece of cake to find an unpatrolled stretch.

The exact reason why we already have barriers in populated areas.

The Rio Grande, mountains, deserts, and oceans do a decent job , already.

 

[Emerson40]

Because of the lack of reports of widespread breaching of Israel's wall by Palestinians in that way. According to Emerson that's all you need to get over a wall so apparently the Palestinians haven't thought of it.

Que, you certainly have spent way too much time in the Sonoran sun.

You comparing the West Bank barrier wall to Trump's proposed partition is laughable.



Tell me, do the potential Democrat voters only 'continuously stream' in where there are no red arrows?

That sounds like you feel like you're very informed on this issue. Spent a lot of time in the Sonoran Desert have you?

I have and I've got a pretty good idea which areas would benefit the most from physical barriers, which area is it you don't really need it because there's absolutely no where to hide once you do cross the border for a quite a distance, and which area is you definitely don't need it because it's either physically impossible or fairly impractical because of the difficulty of the terrain.

I do know what it's like to hike in the Sonoran Desert I do know how long it takes to get through different types of terrain and different types of vegetation. I know how much water you have got to carry to be able to do that.

I'm not prepared to make the kind of grand pronouncement that you seem so confident to me but I can tell you for certain that doing absolutely nothing is the very best path to ensure a continuous stream of democrat voters. Which is the only reason that the Democrats have suddenly decided that they don't like wasting government funds.

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Que, I get it... you abhor the Dems and are a bona fide imbiber of Trump's cool and refreshing Kool-Aid.

If only you'd had a thermos or camel-bag of it when you did your desert walkabout, to help with the heat and dehydration.

 

[Luk]

Klinkster must be a Q-####.

 

[bigsly]

I think better examples would be Hollywood "liberals" who live in gated, guarded estates.

Maybe. But the primary point remains the same: professional security works, and America's southern border is in definite need of a whole lot more of it, obviously, when it's so much easier for many hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens to anonymously enter America each year than it is for a single law-abiding American to anonymously step foot on former President Obama's property.

It's almost like President Obama's life is exponentially more valuable than Officer Ronil Singh's.

 

[Kirkrapine]

It's almost like President Obama's life is exponentially more valuable than Officer Ronil Singh's.

It is exponentially more at risk.

 

[Que]

Not much at map-reading are you? Those big blue areas on the map are water. You got to have a boat to traverse it. See that big land mass to the north? That's Canada. Canadians don't sneak into the country to take advantage of our safety net since they already have a better one there in Canada.

Illegal aliens have a couple of milk jugs refilled with water tied together with a string and some rubber-tired sandals.

Every single section of wall that is actually constructed will have the exact same effect as a wall has in controlling movement in any other parts of the world; gravity isn't different in different parts of the world. Where you put a wall you direct people around that wall into an area where you can interdict them.

You don't even understand the basics of just hiking. Never mind whether it's a man-made obstacle. You're much better off for example going around a log then you are going over it because of the energy and effort expended. A wall is sure as hell more of an obstacle than a log.

There's nothing about sections of wall that's going to make it easier for Democrats to import voters. That's the point. And why Democrats don't want it, plain and simple.

To busy bodies point: why was it that until it became Trump's wall the Democrats were willing to spend 25 billion dollars on a wall? Did they only recently come to this "wisdom" that you now possess? Wisdom that you acquired from the very idiotic me.es you have been posting to defend your nonsensical position that walls are not a hindrance?

 

[Que]

Klinkster must be a Q-####.

You should concentrate all your "winning" in that direction. Maybe spread some love to actual hashtag, too.

 

[Kirkrapine]

There's nothing about sections of wall that's going to make it easier for Democrats to import voters. That's the point. And why Democrats don't want it, plain and simple.

Will you drop that bullshit already?

 

[cowslinger64]

Not much at map-reading are you? Those big blue areas on the map are water. You got to have a boat to traverse it. See that big land mass to the north? That's Canada. Canadians don't sneak into the country to take advantage of our safety net since they already have a better one there in Canada.

Illegal aliens have a couple of milk jugs refilled with water tied together with a string and some rubber-tired sandals.

Every single section of wall that is actually constructed will have the exact same effect as a wall has in controlling movement in any other parts of the world; gravity isn't different in different parts of the world. Where you put a wall you direct people around that wall into an area where you can interdict them.

You don't even understand the basics of just hiking. Never mind whether it's a man-made obstacle. You're much better off for example going around a log then you are going over it because of the energy and effort expended. A wall is sure as hell more of an obstacle than a log.

There's nothing about sections of wall that's going to make it easier for Democrats to import voters. That's the point. And why Democrats don't want it, plain and simple.

To busy bodies point: why was it that until it became Trump's wall the Democrats were willing to spend 25 billion dollars on a wall? Did they only recently come to this "wisdom" that you now possess? Wisdom that you acquired from the very idiotic me.es you have been posting to defend your nonsensical position that walls are not a hindrance?

Only a complete fucking idiot would think the wall is a good idea, or worth the vast expense.

Don't worry queball, there are tons of minimum wage jobs for you and fatass botanydummy... you'll survive.



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There's nothing about sections of wall that's going to make it easier for Democrats to import voters. That's the point. And why Democrats don't want it, plain and simple.

 

[Oblimo]

Please forgive my ignorance and laziness because I can’t be arsed googling, but would you be so kind as to explain to me what the fucken problem is?

It’s not much, but this is where I’m at so far.
The President wants to build a steel wall to protect the Yanks and manage who comes across the border, and he’s shutdown the government until he gets it. Is that correct?

MY QUESTION. If it’s going to help the Yanks in the long run and pay for itself eventually, why is it that people don’t want him to build it?

Give it to me. I’m in a hard and rough mood. LOL. If you like it gentle, maybe put Busybody on ignore. Oh and watch that BotanyBoy. Dude would argue the pants off your grandmother.

Trump wants there to be a once sentence provision in a continuing budget resolution that specifies 5.someodd billion dollars for "physical border defense," is the phrase the proposed resolution is using, IIRC.

The big problem is, Trump administration has yet to specify what that really means. When Trump talks about "the Wall," he frequently contradicts himself. Yesterday, he said he was "taking a concrete wall" of the table. This was after he had already started rambling about steel slats. And saying that the wall is "mostly already built." And saying that he doesn't need Congressional funding because it's an national emergency.

In other words, the Trump Administation doesn't have a plan. Instead, they have a meme. This is an actual, unmodified tweet from the President of the United States:

He wants the US tax payers to fork over $5 billion on the strength of a meme. Well, FUCK that.

Bolstering the US-Mexico border with more barriers, better trained border guards, more judges to process detained migrants, oversight to make sure detainees are not given the Arpiao treatment, makes perfect sense. If the Trump Admin could present a coherent plan, I think Democrats could go along with it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Will you drop that bullshit already?

If it's bullshit then why are so many (D)um'z so pro open border and anti voter ID?

We know why KO.....you're only lying to yourself already.

 

[Que]

Indeed it does. It's a long wall. Piece of cake to find an unpatrolled stretch.

Just make sure that you carry about an extra gallon for every day that you're going to spend looking for that unpatrolled stretch.

Riddle me this. Why do you think that there would be more unpatrolled stretches to sneak through if we put up a wall, then there are now are now uncontrolled stretches with no wall? How does this make sense to you?

It's almost as if you wall denierrs don't actually think walls won't work ..you're just trying to throw anything against the wall that you think might demean the value of such an enterprise.

 

[Kirkrapine]

If it's bullshit then why are so many (D)um'z so pro open border and anti voter ID?

The former is not true; the latter is because voter fraud is not a real problem.

 

[jomar]

Is it dumb of me to just assume he’d have a team of experts at his disposal to look at all the figures beforehand? Oh my gosh

That’s not how Trump operates. He knows more than all the experts in all areas. Besides, he trusts his gut!

 

[Klinkster]

Klinkster must be a Q-####.

No idea what that is.

I'm just a guy, one of many, who lives in the desert, that you, and your type, don't give a flying fuck about.

You're too smart. You know everything.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The former is not true;

You can live in denial all you want but wanting to abolish ICE and total opposition to securing the border = supporting open borders/immigration.

the latter is because voter fraud is not a real problem.

Again....Kirk continues to live in fantasy land in order to dodge the question.

 

[Oblimo]

Not much at map-reading are you? Those big blue areas on the map are water. You got to have a boat to traverse it. See that big land mass to the north? That's Canada. Canadians don't sneak into the country to take advantage of our safety net since they already have a better one there in Canada.

Que, you ignorant fuck, what do you think most of the unfenced portion of the US-Mexico border consists of?

THE RIO GRANDE RIVER. 1,260 MILES OF THE 1,954 MILE LONG US-MEXICO BORDER IS A FUCKING RIVER.

 

[10NadNuder]

Will you drop that bullshit already?

Should be everyone's response to trump when they hear any part of the phrase "border wall" escape his mouth.

 

[Que]

You can live in denial all you want but wanting to abolish ICE and total opposition to securing the border = supporting open borders/immigration.




Again....Kirk continues to live in fantasy land in order to dodge the question.

He just got done saying that I can't possibly know that Palestinians are not breaching Israel's wall because maybe they're just not getting caught and now here he is saying that we know there's no voter fraud because they're not getting caught, despite the fact the Democrats oppose all measures that might result in the ability to determine whether anyone is or isn't committing voter fraud.

Can you imagine being the insurance adjuster having to deal with Oreo talking out of both sides of his mouth on every accident claim?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Que, you ignorant fuck, what do you think most of the unfenced portion of the US-Mexico border consists of?

THE RIO GRANDE RIVER. 1,260 MILES OF THE 1,954 MILE LONG US-MEXICO BORDER IS A FUCKING RIVER.

A river you don't need a boat to cross, unlike open ocean journey, which does.

 

[Que]

Que, you ignorant fuck, what do you think most of the unfenced portion of the US-Mexico border consists of?

THE RIO GRANDE RIVER. 1,260 MILES OF THE 1,954 MILE LONG US-MEXICO BORDER IS A FUCKING RIVER.

You haven't ever seen the Rio Grande have you?

Do you even swim?

 

[Oblimo]

No idea what that is.

I'm just a guy, one of many, who lives in the desert, that you, and your type, don't give a flying fuck about.

You're too smart. You know everything.

Do you live in the Soronan desert?

Do you live on incorporated land?

How much unfenced border territory is in your area?

Hint: Each time you respond with, "I'm not telling you because you think you know everything and don't really care," everyone reading the post interprets it as, "I am shitfilled troll who wants lulz, not a border wall."

 

[cowslinger64]

Just make sure that you carry about an extra gallon for every day that you're going to spend looking for that unpatrolled stretch.

Riddle me this. Why do you think that there would be more unpatrolled stretches to sneak through if we put up a wall, then there are now are now uncontrolled stretches with no wall? How does this make sense to you?

It's almost as if you wall denierrs don't actually think walls won't work ..you're just trying to throw anything against the wall that you think might demean the value of such an enterprise.

There's nothing to throw.. the wall is sheer stupidity.


You right wing idiots have turned this into a partisan thing... it's just a stupid thing. If a dem president had offered up something so ridiculous, it would STILL be stupid.



Most immigrants who enter the country do so legally, federal data shows

A September 2017 Office of Immigration Statistics data brief estimated that in fiscal year 2016, the latest year for which complete data is available, there were 170,000 successful illegal border crossings occurring outside of authorized ports of entry. That's down roughly 90 percent since 2000, and it's about one-seventh of the roughly 1.2 million immigrants who obtained lawful permanent resident status via a green card, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

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