Have you all been thinking about the Lord?

[Oblimo]

Yhe word compel means compel. It doesn't mean something different then compel. It always means compel that's why the word is spelled exactly like the word compel.

Que, I know this surprises you, but a single word can have different meanings. And not just colloquially, but official, in-the-dictionary multiple definitions.

Observe: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compel

 

[Oblimo]

And no. Indignation is not wrath indignation is indignation and wrath is not wrath. There's a reason we have two different words for those two completely different emotions.

Anger is anger, Que.

I’m constantly amazed that you claim to have a law degree but seem to think that words are infinitely interchangeable and aren't tremendously impressed with actual definitions that are agreed upon in order for human beings to actually communicate clearly.

Do you even own a copy of Blacks?

If you had a law degree, you’d understand the difference between Terms of Art, which have specific, technical meanings in particular contexts (and, thanks to the vagueries of legal history, sometime more than one meaning, like the legal term “equity.”), and non-technical terms. Black’s Legal Dictionary defines Terms of Art, like subinfeudation or escheat.

But never have I ever on this forum disagreed with a dictionary. I have disagreed with posters who quote puny online dictionaries with the additional, and incorrect, premise that what they are quoting is the only proper usage of a term. Particularly an -ism with centuries of history and contributors.

 

[Oblimo]

Also, there are no big sins. Only sins.

I guess Catholics, with their lesser venial sins and greater mortal sins, are wrong in you Book?

Just what demonination are you, anyway?

 

[CandiCame]

I guess Catholics, with their lesser venial sins and greater mortal sins, are wrong in you Book?

Just what demonination are you, anyway?

I mean... not to be that queen, but what I've learned in this thread tells me he can't be any denomination of any Abrahamic religion because like...

If we go old school Deuteronomy

5 “A woman shall not wear man’s clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman’s clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God.

And if we go new school Jesus, Matt, his close personal friend remembers him saying, word for word,

17 p“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

And I know he's not Muslim, but in the sake of fairness, since he accused me of not being fair;

Bukhari, Authentic Traditions, Book LXXII (Dress), Chapter 62:
(774) The Prophet, peace be upon him, cursed the effeminate men [m.pl.] who are males, and the male-pretenders [f.pl.] who are women, and he said: Evict them from your houses, and the Prophet, peace be upon him, evicted such-and-such [m.sg.] and 'Umar evicted such-and-such [f.sg.].

So like... Hell's gonna be FUCKING FABULOUS.

Bring your fucking setting spray though because it's gonna be hot as fuck and you'll sweat your foundation right off from what I hear.

Edit: Also can I just say that I find it interesting that Islam separates sex and gender here? It's only male men who can't dress like women. Female women can't cross-dress, but Trans guy can.

And unlike a lot of Abrahamic religions, there are specific instructions NOT to kill men who present fem.

An effeminate man (mukhannath) who had dyed his hands and feet with henna was brought to the Prophet. He asked: What is the matter with this man? He was told: "Messenger of Allah! He imitates the look of women." So he issued an order regarding him and he was banished to an-Naqi'. The people said: Messenger of Allah! Should we not kill him? He said: I have been prohibited from killing people who pray.

So that's weird. You get the same punishment for crossdressing as you do for fucking a chick on her period.

Religions are... it's a lot.

 

[Que]

"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." - Matthew 7:6

 

[CandiCame]

None of the above. I lean strongly Protestant though. I have a lot of respect for the theological scholarship of Catholics specifically Jesuits but I think that the Catholic Church lost their way mostly because they did a lot of things by committee. That's never a good way to run a pop stand

I had a conversation with an itinerant preacher one time because I was talking to him about the fact that I found myself feeling less guilty when I decided to just go out and get laid then I felt from masturbation. Guilty isn't really the right word here but what I'm talking about is the idea that there's a benefit versus cost. Getting laid feels very validating and emotionally fulfilling

I have been raised with the general idea that fornication is a pretty big sin on the list of sins. He convinced me both scripturally as well as logically that Sin is Sin and it's not a question of gradients. It's a question of what's holding you back.


I've chosen celibacy for a while not so much out of a sense of religious piety but because I found filing another adventure on top of the last to be less fulfilling than I thought it would be. From time to time I get a hankering and I make an effort towards getting laid and the last several attempts have come to naught and I'm okay with that. Eileen demi-sexual but didn't even know that word or the concept until I kind of experienced it well experimenting with the idea of having sex outside of a committed relationship. I don't think that I necessarily have to be in a committed relationship but I find that I need to have a pretty strong emotional connection to find it fulfilling. I'm okay with the mechanics and I'm relatively good at it but I just can't be bothered sometimes.

Real talk, one of the things I hate about religion is that shame bullshit. Pressing shame on people for no good reason, that results in guilt for no good reason

Candi fun fact! I'm actually an implicit atheist, not someone who lost religion. As a kid I treated god exactly like Santa and the Tooth Fairy, it was in the same exact category in my brain, and I never believed those things either and didn't know that we were like... supposed to? I thought we all just wanted money and presents so we told our parents we believed it. Like it never entered my mind that people actually thought god was a real thing until I was old enough to have concrete memories, like I was well out of infantile amnesia, and it kinda blew my mind.

Because these were grown-ups. Who genuinely believed a book of fairy tales and let themselves feel guilty for straight up WEIRD shit. Like jacking off. I cannot comprehend why there would be shame associated with that. Like even if god were a real person idk why there's shame associated with that. You don't wanna watch look the fuck away. We know you can. You looked away in-canon when your kid died.

Edit: Typo that changed half the meaning of the post

 

[CandiCame]

I'm actually gonna keep rolling with this because it's 3 in the morning and I have no filter.

When I figured out how my dick worked I often jacked off in bed, which I think is a pretty common thing, but at the time I shared a room with my brother, who slept below me on the bottom bunk, and so like... if I was gonna be scared about somebody watching me I didn't need some mythical sky dom. He very easily could have- and a couple times did just kinda pop up like, "Hey here's some inane bullshit" and I'd be like;

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/bc/bc891602e9d980c8f33868719f0d7e3006e5e5a3c66eb1f1ddf36712d8e58891.jpg

Dude go the fuck to sleep. Some of us are thinking way too hard about Gadget of Rescue Rangers fame.

Yet I did not grow up to a furry.

All I'm saying is that I live a life where you can jack off thinking about a mouse and feel no shame related to it and like... I feel like that's just me out here living my best life.

 

[Que]

"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." - Matthew 7:6

 

[CandiCame]

Do you even Christian?

Let's start with the very Basics since apparently you have no religious training at all and haven't even taken a comparative religion class.

There's this guy who was born in the springtime but we're going to celebrate his birth is coming week he was known at the time as the baby Jesus born to Mary and Joseph but allegedly sired by almighty God. Or do you follow me so far?

Okay he grows up and at the age of 12 confounded the elders in the temple because of his vast knowledge of all things spiritual that a twelve-year-old theoretically couldn't know.

He wasn't very haughty about it, but he seemed to understand his Divine parentage and Mission.

The Old Testament that you're referring to was given to the Israelites as preparation for the time when gaunt literal son would be born and live among men and would show men the way to live in the manner of making personal choices and being governed by the responsibility given to make those choices that are pleasing to God.

The Mosaic law was exact opposite it was like teaching children you don't make any decisions at all and you're told what to do and when to do it. Literally how many steps you can take on the Sabbath. You are aware that Christians are able to eat shellfish and pork, right? This is because unlike the Israelites which were told everything in an effort to protect them from such things as trichinosis they were given the very restrictive dietary concerns for their benefit instead of letting them make individual decisions about whether or not the particular piece of pork they were about to eat was healthy or not. It isn't the Christians aren't aware that the Old Testament says those things those things do not apply. They do not apply because in Christ all the Mosaic law was done away with. All of it.

By the way your translation of Deuteronomy is fatally flawed. That passage has to do specifically with the vestments that the priest wore it was about the authority that men had in the priest class. It was a Petra lineal Society passed down from father to son which is how you became a priest. Chicks were not allowed.

There were no essential differences between men and women's clothing of that era you're just looking for robes to cover yourself. There weren't dude robes and chick robes they were just robes unless of course they had the vestments that indicated your authority as a priest.

If that passage which would make no sense at the time it was written the way you're interpreting it meant what you think it means then that means women are sending by wearing high heels and stockings which were traditionally male arb in the Middle Ages.

Bottom line anytime anyone quotes anything from the Old Testament to prove that Christians are wrong all that tells me is that they have absolutely no theological training. Christianity descends from the abrahamic religions by way of Jesus having been and Israelite with just means that he's descended from Jacob who changed his name to Israel but that's the extent of the connection.

What you're doing is essentially the same as quoting Catholic dogma to a Protestant as if what a pronouncement has a some sort of reference to lutherans who rejected papal authority.

Judaism and Islam are much more tied to the Old Testament than Christianity ever was.

You keep telling yourself that, buddy. You're wrong, but you keep at it.

This is you wanting to eat seafood and dress pretty and twisting scripture so you can pretend god is cool with it, but in-canon he's not.

I don't have a dog in this fight so I can look at it objectively, but you're trying to twist it so you can do what you want.

Yhall do that a lot.

 

[CandiCame]

BTWs, just for fun I'm reading fashion laws from the new testimate and I'd like to remind everybody that wearing your hair how it grows out of your head is a sin.

Corinthians 1

14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him

But also like your interpretation is contradicted a shitton. The gospels all recount the same story, so we get the same decree from different perspectives and it's pretty obvious that Jesus, being a FUCKING RABBI totally expected his followers to follow the code that you're shitting on.

Matthew 5:17-19: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven".

Matthew 24:35: "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away" [NIV].

Luke 16:17: "It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law" [NIV].

John 10:35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be abroken

Mark calls out not following the laws set forth in the old testament straight up.

Mark 7:13

13 thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do.”


The fact is, Christians made that shit up based on biblical inconsistencies because if you read with an agenda you can make that shit say whatever you want. Because it's a storybook compiled of fables from a bunch of different authors that was not canonized into a semi-cohesive narrative until AFTER COLUMBUS WAS IN THE AMERICAS.

None of it means anything because it's all just made up bullshit, but in the canon of the fictional universe of that book, the followers of Christ, again, who was a Rabbi, were expected to follow the rules laid out in the Torah. Because Christianity, like it or not, is a sect of Judaism at its core. To pretend otherwise is dishonest, and to pretend that I don't know anything about Christianity should be as embarrassing to you as me saying you didn't know anything about the LGBT struggle was to me. Because that's how a person with human empathy reacts to being wrong about somebody and acting on that misinformation.

 

[CandiCame]

BTWs Leo, when you decided to paint the guy you were fucking as Jesus you gave everyone really unrealistic expectations about how they were allowed to wear their hair. I love you, but the whole western world ran with that and now these dumb motherfuckers think Jesus looks like Cesare Borgia just because you wanted his dick and his dad's money.

And I get that that's funny as hell and you had no idea the racist bullshit it would cause but it totally did cause racist bullshit and it is kinda on you.

...I don't know why I'm making call-out posts for the ghost of Leonard Da Vinci like he's gonna see it and be like, "Oh yeah, I did kinda fuck up but they drove a dumptruck of money up to my house."

Because like, honestly the hypothetical ghost of Da Vinci would have a point and I can't really refute it.

 

[Que]

"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." - Matthew 7:6

 

[CandiCame]

Well you're disagreeing with the dictionary right now because anger does not equal indignation.

in·dig·na·tion
/ˌindiɡˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: indignation

anger or annoyance provoked by what is perceived as unfair treatment.
"the letter filled Lucy with indignation"

Honey...

 

[Que]

"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." - Matthew 7:6

 

[CandiCame]

A lot closer to annoyance than anger and nowhere close to Wrath.

We have different words to mean different things for a reason.

In this case the reason seems to be that you wanna just apply nitpicky bullshit to everything from Jesus to colloquial speech.

wrath noun
\ˈrath,
chiefly British ˈrȯth
\
Definition of wrath

(Entry 1 of 2)

1 : strong vengeful anger or indignation

Forgot to source these, but they're from the same place: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wrath

I went old-school since you like that shit. Dictionary.
God if I ever had to look up a word in a paper book I'd be so pissed. I hate that yhall had to go through that. And they'd go out of date like every month. What'd you do? Did you have to get a new one? I genuinely don't know. I'm gonna google that.

Edit: Oh my holy fuck, you did. You had to buy a new one at least once a year. How did you survive? All your money would be tied up in dictionaries. And what did you do with the out-of-date one? Tell me yhall recycled those.

This seems like a fucking money game because apparently encyclopedias worked the same way and they were hundreds of dollars?? Jesus Christ I'm so thankful for the internet.

Sorry I keep editing this but this system is so shitty. They should have had a trade-in program where you gave the old books back and they recycled them to print the new ones on. Because now I can't stop thinking about these just volumes and volumes of outdated information that's just out there basically being straight-up junk, probably rotting away in landfills, that people spent so much money on.

Yhall if you add up the price of all these volumes of Britannica it would be $2,700. A year. In 1990s money.

 

[Que]

"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." - Matthew 7:6

 

[CandiCame]

I've noticed that there's absolutely no point talking to you about anything I'm sure that you know everything about everything so I'm just not going to bother in the future

Dude not to keep correcting you but you've seen me apologize when I'm wrong about something.

You're just actually talking about something that I am more educated in. You can't look at something objectively if you go in wanting it to be 1: true and 2: say certain things.

The fact that I'll apologize when I'm wrong and you won't makes it pretty clear which of us is actually worth talking to.

This shit matters to you and it doesn't to me, because you believe it and I don't, so I can look at it objectively, as a book, and you can't. Because if you read it literally, as written (I know you hate the word literally for whatever reason, but in this context, specifically I mean it in a literary sense, if you literally read a book as a book and not as something you're projecting meaning onto) there's not a bunch of "interpretations". There's one. The way it was actually written.

Now there are a bunch of translations, and I'm not gonna pretend I fluently speak Greek or Hebrew, but I have people in my life who do, who have degrees in that sort of thing, that I can and have gone to for advice. Secular biblical scholars are a thing, and they make much more accurate translations with proper historical context to help understand how these fables were canonnized into a semi-cohesive narrative.

They are evidently (and again, evidently in the scientific, mla format sense so we're real fucking clear what I mean when I speak, as in "there is evidence that this is the case") not written to be believed as true by the original authors. They're not even apparently (again, by this I mean there is no apparent reasoning) to have been written to be believed as true.

We can trace these fables back to their prebiblical origins, and we have a shitton of evidence to the contrary. If you do the math, the bible says that the biblical flood destroyed all living plants and animals on earth except for those on the arc for example. I live super close to a (really shitty) recreation of that arc. I've been there, and it was built to the specifications in the bible. That thing is fucking tiny. They were gonna put a zoo on it, but it wouldn't fucking fit. Because it was bullshit.

And that flood, again, if you do the math, would have happened in the 2000sbce. Destroying all life on earth. There are trees older than that that were not destroyed in any flood and don't show evidence of ever having BEEN in any flood, far below the depths the flood was recorded to have reached.

Plus the people here, in the Americas, at that time- did not give a flying fuck about the fact that they would have been underwater and don't show any indication that it slowed them down at all. There are cities that existed before the flood, during the flood, and kept right on trucking after the flood. With no indication that they even noticed it happened. Because it didn't. There as no global flood. It didn't happen.

Not to mention that the fermiment is not a thing, the world is not flat, zombies, dragons, and magic don't exist, you can't heal yourself of a disease by rubbing dead birds all over you, or induce abortions by drinking filth off a church floor, or change the phenotypes of animals by having them look at sticks while they fuck and I should not have to tell that to a grown-ass adult.

When Matt says that Easter zombies were a thing, that there was a shitton of them, and they walked into town and talked to people after a fucking earthquake it should clue people into the fact that it's just not a thing.

If none of that shit is a thing that happened, and if we have no records from other cultures to indicate that ANY of this happened- like Egyptians never recorded a mass migration of a slave class, or Rome never recorded a particular Rabbi Josh who caused these uprisings (they do record some two centuries after the fact that Christianity is emerging as a religion, but there are no contemporary records of this uprising at the time) even though the Egyptian society at the time kept METICULOUS property records on things like slaves and the Roman Empire has some of the best political record-keeping known in all of human history-

Then it probably just didn't happen.

So the fact that Jesus says that you have to abide by all the laws set forth in the Torah doesn't matter because 1: Of course he did, he was a Rabbi if he existed and 2: he likely never existed at all and the character is an amalgamation of several living people combined with fables and legends of other characters from other mythologies, which is why he's so similar to people like Horace.

 

[With_David_Bowie]

I believe in god. I plan to go to church tomorrow, unless god decides I need to sleep what I should, which I wont complain about.

I'm not here to argue about religion.

Find your peace.

 

[Notcastor]

The woman i penetrated last nite was thinking about the Lord; she kept yelling His name over and over.

She also spoke in tongues. But that might have been the tequila.

 

[HelpImLost]

The woman i penetrated last nite was thinking about the Lord; she kept yelling His name over and over.

She also spoke in tongues. But that might have been the tequila.

Absolutely disgusting and evil. Making a mockery of the Lord, are you? Somehow I do not think you'll be laughing on judgment day when you will be at risk for eternal damnation!

 

[Oblimo]

Hi all!

I’m back to see if Que replied to my last posts and to check up on the discussioooohmygodwhatthefuckhappened?

Reading CandiCame’s responses to Que’s deleted pearls before swine... I could only hear this.

 

[Oblimo]

There's this guy who was born in the springtime but we're going to celebrate his birth is coming week

The fact that Que not only knows this factoid but understands the importance of it such that he mentions it in his summary of Christianity means that I have utterly underestimated him.

 

[CandiCame]

Hi all!

I’m back to see if Que replied to my last posts and to check up on the discussioooohmygodwhatthefuckhappened?

Reading CandiCame’s responses to Que’s deleted pearls before swine... I could only hear this.

I guess I was unaware that he wasn't doubled up on his trouble preparation.

Edit:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d9/54/56/d954564e89d47a1dea29211529c1dd10.jpg

 

[oO00Oo]

lmao, lil queef deleted all of his posts. I guess he isn't so proud of being transgendered and now will deny it so he can catfish some more.

What a pathetic little tranny.

lol

 

[CandiCame]

lmao, lil queef deleted all of his posts. I guess he isn't so proud of being transgendered and now will deny it so he can catfish some more.

What a pathetic little tranny.

lol

If you think it's funny that someone is ashamed of who they are, you're an asshole.

There's so many actual shitty things this guy has said to focus on something like this.