You can worry about the Russians if you want,

Had to look the word up, eh?
What a far cry from your high school days when your IEP dictated that you merely had to point to a word you didn't understand and grunt.....then a long suffering Special Ed aide would have to go get a dictionary and read you the definition (taking care not to use words over two syllables).


I'm not worried about nebulous (look it up) social media influencing elections. NotIshmael obviously does. Do you?

So if he "obviously does," his saying so is not "disingenuous," idiot.
 
but they aren't the problem.

Social Media is.

From the link;

(link in article)

The trend is well established now, social media is censoring on the basis of their own agenda. As they are private companies they can do as they please...........for now anyway. But as with all decisions there are consequences to be paid.

They cannot stop the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, or anyone else for that matter, from using their platforms to try to shape opinion. And to make matters worse they are leaving a portal open for those very same players as long as the content agrees with their agenda.

Much to their chagrin congress is going to act eventually. What form that legislation will take is anyone's guess at this time, but act they will. The democrats are all foaming at the mouth over Russia. Whether that's real or feigned for political reasons doesn't matter. The republicans are all bent out of shape over the patently prejudice censorship. When you have both sides of the aisle out for your head something is going to happen. And when it does another nail is going to be driven into the coffin of Free Speech. Whatever action congress takes is going to end up before the SCOTUS and where they fall is going to be interesting.

The Internet, and the computer revolution in general, are the latest subjects of an interplay that began long ago between Verne and Wells. Verne saw nothing but the silver lining whilst Wells saw the dark clouds. In the end both of them were right. We are enjoying the benefits of all the bright and shiny things Verne wrote about. Just as we are grappling with all of the dark consequences that Wells foresaw.

The problem, as I see it anyway, is we're on an ever accelerating technology curve. The advances AND the consequences are occurring at a rate beyond societies ability to absorb and deal with either. Social media is just one aspect of the challenges that society is gong to have to deal with. To restate the issue in a different way, we, as a species, cannot evolve fast enough to keep up with the world we're creating for ourselves. And to that extent I agree with Elon, AI has all the potential to bring about the end of the human species. Perhaps "The Terminator" wasn't all that far off.



So you're in favor of a "Fairness Doctrine" for social media? Interesting.
 
Oh, look. A not-Rob alt takes up the argument on Rob's behalf to cover Rob's embarrassment for not knowing what disingenuous means.

Quelle surprise!
 
So you're in favor of a "Fairness Doctrine" for social media? Interesting.

If a private power company operated in the same fashion and shut your lights off if you sounded like a Democrat, you'd be screaming for regulation. That why they turned such entities into utilities.
 
But saying social media poses a greater threat than the Russians still possibly is disingenuous, dumbdumb.

No it isn't. The Russians don't have the power to suspend free speech and forcibly demand conformity of expression in the market place of ideas like Twitter and Facebook do.
 
No it isn't. The Russians don't have the power to suspend free speech and forcibly demand conformity of expression in the market place of ideas like Twitter and Facebook do.

Facebook and Twitter don't have the power to suspend free speech, either. Do you think it is more likely that Facebook and Twitter will attempt to manipulate the midterm and future elections?
 
Facebook and Twitter don't have the power to suspend free speech, either. Do you think it is more likely that Facebook and Twitter will attempt to manipulate the midterm and future elections?

Yes they do, and are doing.

Yes, by shadow banning people with political opinions that differ from their own, which are liberal.
 
Yes they do, and are doing.

Yes, by shadow banning people with political opinions that differ from their own, which are liberal.

i've never heard of this "shadow banning". how does it work and do you have any examples?
 
Yes they do, and are doing.

Yes, by shadow banning people with political opinions that differ from their own, which are liberal.

Do you favor government regulation on the free market to prevent this "shadow banning" that appears to terrify you so?
 
i've never heard of this "shadow banning". how does it work and do you have any examples?

Google it. It's all over the Internet and happening to conservatives everywhere. Chris Paronto was just banned for criticizing Obama. Sessions is meeting with State Attorneys General to discuss regulating the practice.
 
Do you favor government regulation on the free market to prevent this "shadow banning" that appears to terrify you so?

Do you agree with Von_Skidmark's lame defense of your misuse of disingenuous?
 
Google it. It's all over the Internet and happening to conservatives everywhere. Chris Paronto was just banned for criticizing Obama. Sessions is meeting with State Attorneys General to discuss regulating the practice.

I just see links to unsavory websites. sessions is proven to be unfit for his position, per the president so I cannot trust what he says.
 
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Do you favor government regulation on the free market to prevent this "shadow banning" that appears to terrify you so?

No I don't, but when a company controls the speech of a billion people and can arbitrarily cut off their access to electronic social networks where they do business and interact with family and friends it brings up a question whether they ought to be able to amass the power to force intellectual conformity on a big part of the world. The solution is more freedom not less.
 
The OP reminds me of similar concerns expressed about the power of television to alter opinions in the 1950s. I even had to write essays on "Idiot box good or bad?". That was before UK television had a commercial channel. When it did appear there was even more frantic debate about the power of advertising on television.

Fools will always believe lies if they are speciously presented. In the 1950s we had the recent examples of the persuasiveness of Nazi, Soviet and Allied propaganda.

Then as now, those who are afraid of new technologies' reach underestimate the intelligence of the majority of people.

The large number of fools and their lack of critical abilities have always been a concern.
 
Ah, lil lace is back! You don't think the creators and programmers don't use their own platforms?

Phew, something stinks in here.

Oh they never quite go away. No moderation, freedom from being doxxed, of course not! They speak how they really feel on here!
 
Aaaah, did someone get a time out for breaking the TOS? :( That is just so unfair! How date a company I force that!

The funniest thing about that whole article was the paragraphs above their conments section:

Do you support their rights as stated below?


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The OP reminds me of similar concerns expressed about the power of television to alter opinions in the 1950s. I even had to write essays on "Idiot box good or bad?". That was before UK television had a commercial channel. When it did appear there was even more frantic debate about the power of advertising on television.

Fools will always believe lies if they are speciously presented. In the 1950s we had the recent examples of the persuasiveness of Nazi, Soviet and Allied propaganda.

Then as now, those who are afraid of new technologies' reach underestimate the intelligence of the majority of people.

The large number of fools and their lack of critical abilities have always been a concern.

First you have to consider that half of everyone you will ever meet is below the median for intelligence. IQ has been steadily declining in the western world. Levels of literacy as well.. very few people read any books at all. There is very little content to read on any given subject the majority of people formed their opinions with nothing more than a meme.

Modern society is a propagandist wet dream.
 
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