Figgered that wouldn't take long

[BoyNextDoor]

Sort of like when Obama socialized the banks losses with taxpayer money?

Too Big To Fail!!!

The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 was signed by Bush - FYI. Obama did vote for it while in the Senate.

You have a deplorable memory.

ETA:

But to bring it back to the OP/Thread: I agree that the merchants should not get to have their cake and make public policy, too.

 

[jaF0]

Thats all because insurance company statistics say they can't be trusted.

Nothing to do with purchasing sporting goods

So, they can't be trusted to rent a room or a car, but they can be trusted with shoot-em-ups?

 

[Luk]

Let's not forget the last two years of the Bush administration the Democrats controlled the congress.

Let us not forget that the Republicans own everything in this shithole times.

 

[chillywilly2]

So, they can't be trusted to rent a room or a car, but they can be trusted with shoot-em-ups?

Yeah...fucked up laws eh...go figure

 

[Libsam]

Oh, there many many acronyms in The Obama Stimulus Package.

And the final numbers when he left office, the numbers that don't lie.
He tripled our debt, something like a 70% increase under Obama. He broke every presidents record with that one.

 

[chillywilly2]

Oh, there many many acronyms in The Obama Stimulus Package.

And the final numbers when he left office, the numbers that don't lie.
He tripled our debt, something like a 70% increase under Obama. He broke every presidents record with that one.

Thats what Lieberals do...spend money and end up with nothing to show for it but votes...and Hilary didn't even end up with that

 

[BoyNextDoor]

If you are talking about ARRA then you should know that it worked.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

This again?
Did anyone bother to read the stories and see what's being said about it?

 

[RobDownSouth]

“Some rental-car companies allow drivers under age 25 to be listed as an additional driver on the contract without paying the underage driver fee. You will need to show your driver's license and a credit card in your name. Most car-rental companies require renters to be at least 21 years old.”

Yes you do.

I mentioned this several days ago. Also, try and rent a resort hotel room for spring break or on a major college football game weekend. Many times it's 25+ up or a parent signing liability for damages.

At the other end of the scale, there are plenty of "retirement communities" restricting ownership and/or rentals to 55 and up.

Age discrimination seems to be permissible throughout America. It'll be interesting to see how/if the second amendment applies here. As the Lit General Board philosopher Chief Squanto Von Mises likes to opine...
That....THAT.....THAT'S DIFFERENT!!

 

[doowdniw]

Sort of like when Obama socialized the banks losses with taxpayer money?

Too Big To Fail!!!

You do realize those were loans that were paid back with interest, right?

 

[Luk]

Oh, there many many acronyms in The Obama Stimulus Package.

And the final numbers when he left office, the numbers that don't lie.
He tripled our debt, something like a 70% increase under Obama. He broke every presidents record with that one.

Start a thread about it, Dave.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Some whiny snotnose 20 year old in the State of Oregano is tossing a hissy fit over not being able to buy a boom-boom at the stores that stopped sales to under 21s.

Fuggin crybaby. Initials must be B.B.

Awww someone hates the Constitution, the USA and freedom.

Would you defend your squaw, papoose and teepee with a gay wedding cake?

Get a job, Squanto. Take some financial pressure off your long-suffering squaw.

Rob...triggered into his usual bigotry that the "progressive" left loves and embraces every day because racism is ok as long as their side is using it.

It is not up to some fucking merchant to make public policy. I believe a court challenge would go in his favor. You do not get to choose your customer.

It's not making public policy...it's freedom of association, which is also the freedom to not associate.

And there is nothing stupid about a rejection of merchants being able to decide who their customers are.

Maybe not for you, but it is un-American and un-Constitutional....blatantly and bigger than all shit.

IDK if you understand this or not but this isn't 1920's Soviet Russia comrade.

Petty czars self made fiefdoms are a thing of the past. Being a merchant does not confer upon you some special status in society.

No it's not, and nobody said it does.

YOU however are saying being a merchant requires you to give up your 1A rights.....which is bullshit.

 

[adrina]

Let's not forget the last two years of the Bush administration the Democrats controlled the congress.

Oh, there many many acronyms in The Obama Stimulus Package.

And the final numbers when he left office, the numbers that don't lie.
He tripled our debt, something like a 70% increase under Obama. He broke every presidents record with that one.

It shouldn't be surprising that you all consider TARP as something the democrats are responsible for but refuse to acknowledge the reality of Bush policies which set much of the stage for the ballooning debt under Obama.

I'm pretty confident, in that same vein, that you support the recent tax cuts Trump and the republicans just pushed through.

 

[jaF0]

Who paged BotulismBoi?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I mentioned this several days ago. Also, try and rent a resort hotel room for spring break or on a major college football game weekend. Many times it's 25+ up or a parent signing liability for damages.

At the other end of the scale, there are plenty of "retirement communities" restricting ownership and/or rentals to 55 and up.

Age discrimination seems to be permissible throughout America. It'll be interesting to see how/if the second amendment applies here. As the Lit General Board philosopher Chief Squanto Von Mises likes to opine...
That....THAT.....THAT'S DIFFERENT!!

It is funny you mention the senior living thing - I was wondering how a country club cannot keep out a woman (and they shouldn't be able to) but a senior community can keep out a 45 yr old. (Not that I would imagine a 45 yr old would want to join a senior community but, hey, different strokes for different folks)

And there are some restrictions - like refusing people service for "what they do" (drunk, belligerent, threat to the safety of other customers or employees, etc) but where it gets gray is refusing goods and services for "who they are" (gay, age, gender, race).

A conditional sale seems a reasonable accommodation (require more insurance, a co-signer with means, no criminal record, whatever) but an outright refusal is bullshit - IMO.

I suppose it just comes down to someone with good cause being willing and able to make the case.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Who paged BotulismBoi?

You did!!


With this fabulous thread where hypocrisy is just dripping off the walls and BND continues his USSA fantasy.

 

[RobDownSouth]

It is funny you mention the senior living thing - I was wondering how a country club cannot keep out a woman (and they shouldn't be able to) but a senior community can keep out a 45 yr old. (Not that I would imagine a 45 yr old would want to join a senior community but, hey, different strokes for different folks)

And there are some restrictions - like refusing people service for "what they do" (drunk, belligerent, threat to the safety of other customers or employees, etc) but where it gets gray is refusing goods and services for "who they are" (gay, age, gender, race).

A conditional sale seems a reasonable accommodation (require more insurance, a co-signer with means, no criminal record, whatever) but an outright refusal is bullshit - IMO.

I suppose it just comes down to someone with good cause being willing and able to make the case.

The supreme court has held that "conduct" is NOT constitutionally protected (no shirt, no service...you choose to not wear a shirt), but "condition" (race, sex, national origin) ...i.e. stuff you have no control over, IS constitutionally protected.

Age seems to be a nebulous area, like making those over age 75 re-take a driving test annually. I think the reasonable accomodation provision would apply here, it will be interesting to see if they can keep high power weaponry out of the hands of budding mass murderers.

 

[Taint_mAnn]

Who paged BotulismBoi?

He had a chance to say his 10 canned responses he "argues" with in every thread.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

The supreme court has held that "conduct" is NOT constitutionally protected (no shirt, no service...you choose to not wear a shirt), but "condition" (race, sex, national origin) ...i.e. stuff you have no control over, IS constitutionally protected.

Age seems to be a nebulous area, like making those over age 75 re-take a driving test annually. I think the reasonable accomodation provision would apply here, it will be interesting to see if they can keep high power weaponry out of the hands of budding mass murderers.

So you get where I am coming from - I can be 18, married, homeowner, a kid, legally bound by all those contracts, fight and die for my country, pass the background checks and follow all the rules and fucking Walmart gets to say if I can buy a shotgun or a .22!!? No way. Fuck them.

 

[Taint_mAnn]

Let's not forget the last two years of the Bush administration the Democrats controlled the congress.

So you agree lisbam is a dishonest partisan moron. Good.

 

[richard_daily]

Raise the draft age to 21, and you'll get less of an justifiable outcry.

 

[WoundedKnee]

I know I would be pretty pissed if I went to buy a gun and they just wouldn't sell one to me.
I have all the paperwork required..so wtf

"The refusal came four days before the retail chain publicly announced its new sales policy for firearms..."

 

[WoundedKnee]

The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 was signed by Bush - FYI. Obama did vote for it while in the Senate.

You have a deplorable memory.

ETA:

But to bring it back to the OP/Thread: I agree that the merchants should not get to have their cake and make public policy, too.

I love this. Most of the time people of a certain mindset credit President Obama with "saving the economy" but would never admit that it was Bush that started the turn-around and Obama just glommed onto the recovery in process, retarding that recovery with green initiatives and wild spending on "shovel-ready" projects that it turns out weren't all that shovel ready, almost every penny going to his base of supporters.

 

[RobDownSouth]

So you get where I am coming from - I can be 18, married, homeowner, a kid, legally bound by all those contracts, fight and die for my country, pass the background checks and follow all the rules and fucking Walmart gets to say if I can buy a shotgun or a .22!!? No way. Fuck them.

I do. It's a glibertarian wet dream "Ah am uh private company and I kin sell to whoever I want" is bad public policy overall. Not sure more government regulation would help in this area though. It's a tricky situation.

 

[KimGordon67]

The supreme court has held that "conduct" is NOT constitutionally protected (no shirt, no service...you choose to not wear a shirt), but "condition" (race, sex, national origin) ...i.e. stuff you have no control over, IS constitutionally protected.

Age seems to be a nebulous area, like making those over age 75 re-take a driving test annually. I think the reasonable accomodation provision would apply here, it will be interesting to see if they can keep high power weaponry out of the hands of budding mass murderers.

Age is pretty much a constant for all sorts of things - last time I checked, you couldn't get married or buy alcohol until you were a certain age, and the first one, like some other stuff that's limited by age, is a basic human right according to the UN definition. Here, insurers regularly charge people under 25 more to insure their cars.
Is there not something about having a 'good reason' to refuse certain customers? I mean, it seems pretty obvious that giving guns to people who aren't quite adults yet is perfectly reasonable, but I honestly can't see a 'good reason' to refuse to bake a cake for two guys apart from your own morality. (And yes, I know these are all grey areas, but the law is full of grey areas that get thrashed out in court, on the basis of what a 'reasonable person' would think.)