Transgenders and suicide

[Ishmael]

What you are mistakenly referencing is called the Sword Verses.

According to several mainstream Islamic scholars, the verse relates to a specific event in Islamic history -- namely that Arabian pagans made and broke a covenant with Arabic Muslims. The verses immediately preceding and following 9:5, 9:4 and 9:6, make the context very clear: Only those pagans who broke the covenant were subject to violent repercussions, so that any pagans who honored the covenant or repented their betrayal were to be spared.

According to Maher Hathout:


This verse was revealed towards the end of the revelation period and relates to a limited context. Hostilities were frozen for a three-month period during which the Arabs pledged not to wage war. Prophet Muhammad was inspired to use this period to encourage the combatants to join the Muslim ranks or, if they chose, to leave the area that was under Muslims rule; however, if they were to resume hostilities, then the Muslims would fight back until victorious. One is inspired to note that even in this context of war, the verse concludes by emphasizing the divine attributes of mercy and forgiveness. To minimize hostilities, the Qur'an ordered Muslims to grant asylum to anyone, even an enemy, who sought refuge. Asylum would be granted according to the customs of chivalry; the person would be told the message of the Qur'an but not coerced into accepting that message. Thereafter, he or she would be escorted to safety regardless of his or her religion. (9:6).[6]

Patricia Crone states that the verse is directed against a particular group accused of oath-breaking and aggression and excepts those polytheists who remained faithful. Crone states that this verse seems to be based on the same above-mentioned rules. Here also it is stressed that one must cease fighting when the enemy does.[7]

Modern Quranic scholar Muhammad Asad also states that the permission to fight and kill was restricted to specific tribes already at war with the Muslims who had breached their peace agreements and attacked them first.[8] [9] A similar interpretation of the verse as limited to defensive warfare is also found in Ahmadiyya literature, notably in Muhammad Ali's 1936 The Religion of Islam.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_Verse

*about as relevant as 'thou shalt not suffer a witch to live'. you're picking and choosing narratives which fit your prejudices*

72 Virgins in Paradise

Ishmael

 

[hashtag46]

When will liberals start to understand that THEY are in large part responsible for the increasingly negative attitudes against transgenders, muslims and so on?

When people get all sorts of theories or decisions constantly being shoved down their throats, they are bound to get fed up and react.

Like the public toilets thing, or when authorities tried to hide the Cologne attacks and all those rapes

 

[Hard_Rom]

Although it does say they will receive a "great reward", and there are also hasan hadith which refer to 72 virgins as one of the "seven blessings from Allah" to the martyr, the Qur'an does not specify these virgins are a reward for jihadists/martyrs, but rather for any Muslim male who gains admittance to Paradise.

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins#Conclusion

*just being a good Muslim will get you the virgins.*

https://www.juancole.com/2013/04/islamic-forbids-terrorism.html

*and true Islam forbids terrorism and the killing of women and children*

*Folk like you would hold all Germans as Nazis and equally guilty as the Nazis. you could just as easily accuse all whites for black slavery. you pick and choose that which fits your prejudices. and they are just that prejudices.*

 

[hashtag46]

Even the simple idea of being rewarded with virgins in Paradise speaks about the paternalism, if not of the misogyny inherent in Islam.

Islam - Western feminism = clash in cultures.

If you emigrate to a country, you are expected to assimilate. Not the other way around: aka europeans to modify their culture after Islam, and accept your misogynistic attitudes.

 

[Parminderjeet]

When will liberals start to understand that THEY are in large part responsible for the increasingly negative attitudes against transgenders, muslims and so on?

When people get all sorts of theories or decisions constantly being shoved down their throats, they are bound to get fed up and react.

Like the public toilets thing, or when authorities tried to hide the Cologne attacks and all those rapes

Theories like ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS? Stop being such a stupid 3rd world degenerate for once in your life.

 

[hashtag46]

Theories like ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS? Stop being such a stupid 3rd world degenerate for once in your life.

Not a very intelligent "comeback" which bears no relation to what I said.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I would suggest that both you and the jihadists are delusional.

They are not fascists, they are advocates of Theocratic Dictatorships. While many of the results of that belief have much in common with Fascism as practiced by Hitler, it doesn't change what they believe in.

With regards to 'petty criminals', murder is NOT a petty crime. It is a first degree felony The fact that they use some religious text as the justification for their crimes doesn't change the fact that they are first degree felons.

You seem to be unable to recognize what they are just as they seem to be unable to recognize what they are and the rule of secular law.

Ishmael

Playing off of several various posts, why would they be fans of secular law?

They see all of Europe, secular law, social safety nets, high taxes, a proliferation of various sexual deviancies and a worldly wealth that leads to negative birth rates, looming economic and social collapse and the need to import those whom live under a moral code to prop up the crumbling walls of the "castles." In some respects they may actually see themselves as the remedy.



Not as a defense, just as an attempted observation from a stance of impartiality. This is also based on busybody's thread about how the intellectuals of France are tending towards blaming the violence of the week on the refusal of Les Deplorables to more fully accept Muslims. It's the same theme of this thread, i.e., we don't need to help the transgender/Muslim with their demons, we have to undergo "transformative change" in our lives in order to accommodate their irreconcilable differences to our way of life.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

When will liberals start to understand that THEY are in large part responsible for the increasingly negative attitudes against transgenders, muslims and so on?

When people get all sorts of theories or decisions constantly being shoved down their throats, they are bound to get fed up and react.

Like the public toilets thing, or when authorities tried to hide the Cologne attacks and all those rapes

They don't care if they are responsible, for their goal is not to gain acceptance of transgenderism, but to gain control power, for themselves over the lives of others, just as we are seeing, the Theocracy of the Middle East seeks to impose its values and understandings of morality upon the lives of others.

Transgenders and Jews are merely tools used to gain an end.

And by the way, our chocolate ration has been increased by -2g...

 

[Ishmael]

Playing off of several various posts, why would they be fans of secular law?

They see all of Europe, secular law, social safety nets, high taxes, a proliferation of various sexual deviancies and a worldly wealth that leads to negative birth rates, looming economic and social collapse and the need to import those whom live under a moral code to prop up the crumbling walls of the "castles." In some respects they may actually see themselves as the remedy.



Not as a defense, just as an attempted observation from a stance of impartiality. This is also based on busybody's thread about how the intellectuals of France are tending towards blaming the violence of the week on the refusal of Les Deplorables to more fully accept Muslims. It's the same theme of this thread, i.e., we don't need to help the transgender/Muslim with their demons, we have to undergo "transformative change" in our lives in order to accommodate their irreconcilable differences to our way of life.

Many of them do.

The French intellectuals, and all the rest of the 'intellectuals' that think the same, can go Flagellate each other.

Ishmael

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Ponzi and pyramid schemes fail because they to attract new investors. Will always be middle class refugees to cherry pick from the many refugee camps in the world.



I was not insulting your race. I was insulting you. Would have thought you would be more aware of negative stereotypes. If you think that the terrorists are truly Muslim and not just a bunch of fascist posers or petty criminals you are deluded.

No, you were insulting my race. That's why you said "blacks are lazy" not "Funk is lazy."

No need to back peddle. Everyone knows guys like you hate blacks while loudly proclaiming your virtuous love of muslims and trannies because they are fashionable.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Quite frankly white folk aren't the only ones you can point the finger at.

I am not pointing fingers, I am telling you what I have learned as a student of European history. Everywhere the white europeans went, they raped/killed/pillaged and took over people's lands. That is what humans do. If I grew up in Vietnam, I'd understand the fleeting nature of "owning" land by observing some other group.

All of this is to say that Muslims are no different than Europeans. Let too many of them in, they will fuck you out of your land and culture. Whites took the Americas, now Muslims are taking Europe.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The only explosion comes from the religion of peace.

And blacks are lazy. with no work ethic or family values.

No, you were insulting my race. That's why you said "blacks are lazy" not "Funk is lazy."

No need to back peddle. Everyone knows guys like you hate blacks while loudly proclaiming your virtuous love of muslims and trannies because they are fashionable.

So let's review here.

It's perfectly acceptable for Funkenstein to make sweepin' generalizations about Muslims and insult them, but it's not acceptable for HardRom to make sweepin' generalizations about black people and insult them.

 

[Sean]

Every recent bombing/truck attack in Europe has been from Muslims.Hell I don't blame them... your land is yours until it isn't. I learned that from studying white people.

Sorry that you can't handle the truth. Insulting my race doesn't change the facts.

Wrong. The bombing of the Borussia Dortmond team bus last week was by a white dude trying to manipulate the share price. Granted, he did try and BLAME Muslims. And, as a resident of Northern Ireland, EVERY bomb attack and shooting since I've lived here has been carried out by white "Christians"

 

[hashtag46]

So let's review here.

It's perfectly acceptable for Funkenstein to make sweepin' generalizations about Muslims and insult them, but it's not acceptable for HardRom to make sweepin' generalizations about black people and insult them.

Why am I not surprised, that a low hanging fruit and oakie like RacistDownSouth,
who harasses "the bad racists" almost daily with racist (prairee nigger, gook, stinky paki, jewfag) slurs and underage comments about their daughters,

tries to defend his douchey friend who did something in a similar line?

 

[Rightguide]

I am not pointing fingers, I am telling you what I have learned as a student of European history. Everywhere the white europeans went, they raped/killed/pillaged and took over people's lands. That is what humans do. If I grew up in Vietnam, I'd understand the fleeting nature of "owning" land by observing some other group.

All of this is to say that Muslims are no different than Europeans. Let too many of them in, they will fuck you out of your land and culture. Whites took the Americas, now Muslims are taking Europe.

In short the way of the world. Soon if we allow it, it will happen to us as well.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Why am I not surprised, that a low hanging fruit and oakie like RacistDownSouth,
who harasses "the bad racists" almost daily with racist (prairee nigger, gook, stinky paki, jewfag) slurs and underage comments about their daughters,

tries to defend his douchey friend who did something in a similar line?

Reported.

 

[hashtag46]

I met good muslims and bad muslims.
People are generally the same regardless of ethnicity be they white, black, yellow, pink or purple.

But liberals claim that all whites = privileged and racists
All non-whites = oppressed and good.

But muslims have antisocials among their ranks too, just like whites and asians and blacks do.
And those are are bound to take at face value and act on those aspects of an ideology that contains clear misogynistic elements, and preaches violence towards non-believers.

 

[hashtag46]

Reported.

You're an idiot.
No need to argue with you, because it will only make my head hurt.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You're an idiot.
No need to argue with you, because it will only make my head hurt.

No argument to be had. You wrote what you wrote.

 

[hashtag46]

No argument to be had. You wrote what you wrote.

GFY.

You're more than happy when Rob does it, and you never reported him.
And what you're doing here is you're trying to help him continue to harass posters undisturbed.
As usual

 

[Sean]

But liberals claim that all whites = privileged and racists
All non-whites = oppressed and good.

No-one claims this, you fucking retard. Just because your "friends" in the rwcj say it doesn't make it true.

 

[hashtag46]

No-one claims this, you fucking retard. Just because your "friends" in the rwcj say it doesn't make it true.

Lol..

Did I mention You, you moronic retard?.

I had in mind some of your buddies

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

GFY.

You're more than happy when Rob does it, and you never reported him.
And what you're doing here is you're trying to help him continue to harass posters undisturbed.
As usual

Rob is still on ignore. What rule(s) has Rob broken and why haven't you reported him?

 

[Rightguide]

Reported.

What are you, a closet bedwetter?

 

[hashtag46]

What are you, a closet bedwetter?

I'll pass you the torch then, and sit back and chuckle.