Syria: How can the Assad regime be got rid of?

America in Not the World, merely an active member of it, until this January a highly respected member of it.

That respect is being lost exponentially by the ramblings of one Man, no one in your history has ever been so openly divisive.

You obviously voted for this regime and therefore share the blame for the atrocious behaviour of Your President ...
 
He's everybody's problem.

Not really. Mostly just yours and other leftist who hate the USA.

You've been had. You'll figure it out eventually.

Yet you can't ever say how exactly....hmmm

I guess just keep saying it till you figure something out right?

She is none of those things

LOL....drink moar Kool-Aid KO :D

America has been recovering the world's respect and admiration for the last 8 years

No it hasn't, it's been seeing leftist respect and admiration, everyone else was still laughing.
 
No it hasn't, it's been seeing leftist respect and admiration, everyone else was still laughing.

Then it must be a far more leftist world than I had realized. Obama got cheers everywhere he went, and not the kind of cheers you give a clown. See if Trump ever does.
 
Then it must be a far more leftist world than I had realized.

Most of the world is way further left than the US is now and considerably more so than it was intended to be.

Obama got cheers everywhere he went, and not the kind of cheers you give a clown.

Yea....he let everyone rat fuck us, put their opinions and his pockets ahead of our needs, no shit they loved him. Come pay for my security and subsidize my lifestyle and I'll love you too KO!!

The guy was a Justice Democrat/Globalist icon, hates the US as much as justice Demz and is about as anti-American as it gets without going to the crimes against humanity level.

See if Trump ever does.

I don't give a fuck.....the only thing I hope Trump actually does for the next 4 years? Veto everything and golf his dick off.
 
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I don't give a fuck.....the only thing I hope Trump actually does for the next 4 years? Veto everything and golf his dick off.

As to the latter, at least, you won't be disappointed. As to the former, we can confidently expect him to sign (without reading) everything that comes out of Congress so long as Pubs control it. If you want to change that, vote (D).
 
America in Not the World, merely an active member of it, until this January a highly respected member of it.

That respect is being lost exponentially by the ramblings of one Man, no one in your history has ever been so openly divisive.

You obviously voted for this regime and therefore share the blame for the atrocious behaviour of Your President ...

The only choice when faced with the possibility of an Obama third term piloted by an incompetent serial felon and well-known pathological liar.
 
As to the latter, at least, you won't be disappointed.

Meh...maybe. Hope he fills his pockets good and heavy doing it too.

As to the former, we can confidently expect him to sign (without reading) everything that comes out of Congress so long as Pubs control it.

Sooooo......just like every other partisan dipshit to inhabit the WH for the past 40 or so years (yes that includes all the (D)'s too) .

If you want to change that, vote (D).

I did in 2008, and they bailed on me as soon as they had the keys to the gold room, one after another they did a 180 and fucked the working class for ubercorp USA every fucking chance they got without fail. Held out until ACA had a chance, guess what? More ass fucking of the working class from (D).....

Legalize MMJ? Only if you're a rich (D)!!!

They didn't do a fucking thing to change shit, or be even the slightest bit better than (R).....all they did was fill their own pockets and screw the working class dry.

So they can lick my butt and suck on my balls, (R)'s too but especially the (D)'s.
 
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Sooooo......just like every other partisan dipshit . . .

Trump is not really partisan, no more than Sanders is. Bernie is all about his policies, regardless of what party or coalition enacts them, and Trump is all about himself, regardless of what party he IDs with at the moment. He will sign whatever the Pubs send him not because he is a party loyalist but because he feels good doing it, he more or less trusts their judgment, and taking a critical look at a bill would require mental effort.
 
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Trump is not really partisan

I didn't say he was.

Just that his behavior more than likely will be entirely so, agreeing with you.

Essentially making him no different than any other POTUS in that respect.
 
Almost any action taken directly by the USA to get rid of Assad might have ramifications which just escalate the conflict.

There might be some attraction to use the Turkish army to put the more orthodox Sunnis in power. However the Turks will almost be certain to expand the enemy to include the Kurds so that idea is not much good.

Russia has the option of killing - not Assad but perhaps one or two of his close family, wife and kids, that sort of thing and maybe one or two of Assad's more aggressive Generals. That might keep him in line at least for a while.

A third option, perhaps the best might be to express shock and horror but keep stirring the pot to make sure that Russia is further embroiled in a conflict she cannot resolve.

In terms of American interests, a few hundred dead Syrian children from time to time is of no consequence. Horrifying yes - but in terms of pursuing American National interests of no consequence at all. Real politik!
 
It'll be interesting to see what Trump actually does, if anything, considering that Assad did exactly what Trump said he'd do to fight terrorism, intentionally kill innocent children.
 
It's hard to find any good guys in the Syrian Civil War (Rojava might be one, but it's hard to tell for sure from here), but Assad is definitely one of the bad guys, and having ISIS for an enemy does not make him any better. He is clearly no less a murderous monster than Saddam Hussein (a fellow Ba'athist, which I am given to understand is not quite the same thing as a Baptist, though confusion is understandable). His regime has got to go. But Russia backs him to the hilt, and now the Trump Admin is cozy with Russia. Against all that, who can do what to bring him down?

The Democrats didn't learn a single thing from the eight years of deposing dictators that they so loved as a foreign policy.

Another thing we know is that they are itching for Trump to do something with the military so that they can go full mental

:(

CODE PINK.

And the imaginary Russian connection has nothing to do with anything, but it seems to be the only card Democrats have to play now that they are enjoying absolute political impotency.
 
It's hard to find any good guys in the Syrian Civil War (Rojava might be one, but it's hard to tell for sure from here), but Assad is definitely one of the bad guys, and having ISIS for an enemy does not make him any better. He is clearly no less a murderous monster than Saddam Hussein (a fellow Ba'athist, which I am given to understand is not quite the same thing as a Baptist, though confusion is understandable). His regime has got to go. But Russia backs him to the hilt, and now the Trump Admin is cozy with Russia. Against all that, who can do what to bring him down?

It is rather your confusion that is quite understandable. Not to mention why you are such an extreme left; that's elementary.

Assad was never a buddy to Hussein; not him nor his father Hafez Assad. They were enemies.

The Baath party happens to exist in both nations. you simply assumed and equated them as bunk buddies.

As to Baath-ism and Baptism, well, i'll post you the definition, and you try and be the judge of that; altho, I wouldn't take your judgement on most things.

Ba'athism (Arabic: البعثية‎‎ IPA: [al baʕaθija], meaning "renaissance" or "resurrection")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba'athism

is an Arab nationalist ideology that promotes the development and creation of a secular unified Arab state through the leadership of a vanguard party over a progressive revolutionary government. The ideology is officially based on the theories of the Syrian intellectuals Zaki al-Arsuzi, Michel Aflaq and Salah al-Din al-Bitar (according to the pro-Syrian Ba'ath movement).

A Ba'athist society seeks enlightenment, renaissance of Arab culture, values and society. It supports the creation of one-party states, and rejects political pluralism in an unspecified length of time – the Ba'ath party theoretically uses an unspecified amount of time to develop an enlightened Arabic society. Ba'athism is based on principles of Arab nationalism, pan-Arabism, Arab socialism, as well as social progress. It is a secular ideology. A Ba'athist state supports socialist economics to a varying degree, and supports public ownership over the heights of the economy but opposes the confiscation of private property. Socialism in Ba'athist ideology does not mean state socialism or economic equality, but modernisation; Ba'athists believe that socialism is the only way to develop an Arab society which is truly free and united.



It reads OreoKing all over its description. A single payer system of government that is secular and extreme leftist?

This is your paradise man.
 
Until we destabilized the region and set loose the jihaddi, Assad protected all religions and kept the peace.


He was working to restore the peace and President Obama fought back and shipped arms to the children of his creation because Assad was just another bad guy who had to go. Every time the President decided a bad man had to go, bad things filled the void. All the Obamanation could do for years was scream about how President Bush erred in taking out Saddam Hussein...

The stupidity is staggering.
 
Ba'athism (Arabic: البعثية‎‎ IPA: [al baʕaθija], meaning "renaissance" or "resurrection")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba'athism

is an Arab nationalist ideology that promotes the development and creation of a secular unified Arab state through the leadership of a vanguard party over a progressive revolutionary government. The ideology is officially based on the theories of the Syrian intellectuals Zaki al-Arsuzi, Michel Aflaq and Salah al-Din al-Bitar (according to the pro-Syrian Ba'ath movement).

A Ba'athist society seeks enlightenment, renaissance of Arab culture, values and society. It supports the creation of one-party states, and rejects political pluralism in an unspecified length of time – the Ba'ath party theoretically uses an unspecified amount of time to develop an enlightened Arabic society. Ba'athism is based on principles of Arab nationalism, pan-Arabism, Arab socialism, as well as social progress. It is a secular ideology. A Ba'athist state supports socialist economics to a varying degree, and supports public ownership over the heights of the economy but opposes the confiscation of private property. Socialism in Ba'athist ideology does not mean state socialism or economic equality, but modernisation; Ba'athists believe that socialism is the only way to develop an Arab society which is truly free and united.

So they are Baptists! Ya learn somethin' new every day! :)
 
Have we learned nothing from Iraq and Libya?

We need to stay the hell out of their affairs. Let them blow each other up. They've been at it for centuries longer than the US has existed.
 
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