LOL, so no thread about the Liar in Chief having to walk back his comments?

[BotanyBoy]

The clown is going down. That will be funny.

Yea....President Pence LOL...that would be fuckin' epic.

We need a Million Mellow-Man March on the HQ of the National Association of Botanists! The time is now!

*puff*cough* Or later. Later's good too. Whenever.

FOR REALZ!

 

[adrina]

If the AHCA passes it will royally screw over a lot of the idiots who vote for Republicans and Trump. It will be very apparent that all the Republicans want to do is make the 1% richer, as the AHCA does.

Environmental issues are more concerning, but that too can be can corrected with time.

The pendulum always swings back.

We don't have as much leeway as we used to. We can't keep tabling these things and kicking them down the road. We have about 7.5 billion people, resources gobbled up faster than Ma Nature can restore them and we (pardon the expression) seem intent on shitting where we eat without regard for the consequences.

Yes it can be reversed. But at this rate it will be in a very non-consensual manner.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I'm alt free.

I haven't been tested, but I have been vaccinated.

 

[james_1957]

I haven't been tested, but I have been vaccinated.

I'm curious, KO.

You're an attorney. Criminal? Corporate?

 

[KingOrfeo]

I'm curious, KO.

You're an attorney. Criminal? Corporate?

Plaintiffs' personal injury. I consider it a highly respectable calling despite public perception to the contrary. (The rules don't let us chase ambulances, not even metaphorically.)

 

[BotanyBoy]

Plaintiffs' personal injury. I consider it a highly respectable calling despite public perception to the contrary. (The rules don't let us chase ambulances, not even metaphorically.)

OH you're the guy who sues me after some asshole breaks into my home and hurts themselves while robbing me.

LOL I'm not at all shocked.

 

[james_1957]

Plaintiffs' personal injury. I consider it a highly respectable calling despite public perception to the contrary. (The rules don't let us chase ambulances, not even metaphorically.)

I'm all in.

I'm the beneficiary of a personal injury attorney's never ending pursuit of justice.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I'm enjoying the Trump administration immensely! He's the entertainer we all knew he was and he's about to fuck the very people he conned into voting for him. That's called tough love.

Go Trump Go!!!

Saying, "What the President meant to say was..." with a serious look on your face is the very first interview question in a job interview with him.

 

[Phelia]

"Kellyanne Conway explained her comments on spying microwaves" is one of the snippets in NYT's lil daily digest today. Clicking through treats readers to a story with the Spicer quote "the president was very clear in his tweet," because this is real life now.

In the meantime, enjoy watching the RWCJ make their pivot to "we knew we were voting for a disaster, but we did it on purpose because you made us hate you so much so it's YOUR fault."

America is great again!!!

 

[KingOrfeo]

OH you're the guy who sues me after some asshole breaks into my home and hurts themselves while robbing me.

Plaintiff's status as a trespasser is a defense to premises liability. (Not an absolute one, but I won't get into the details here. Dude has no case unless you set a trap for him.)

 

[RobDownSouth]

I'm alt free.

How about you, Rob?

tsk tsk, projecting again, little man?

You promised your off-board bro AJ that you wouldn't respond to my comments but your autism has made that solemn pledge damned near impossible, hasn't it Queerbait?

So you gin up these attack alts to lessen your inner schizophrenia and lessen the pain. Plus they're a good smokescreen to cover up the fact that you're cranking out 200+ posts a day.

And we both know that I have NO alts. I'm not a diminutive little runt thumping his chest and I for damned sure don't need to hide behind alts to say what I want to say (unlike, for example, YOU)....and I've got the posting history to prove it. Again, unlike you

Still have that "knack for getting women to return your PMs"? Not from what I've heard.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Plaintiff's status as a trespasser is a defense to premises liability. (Not an absolute one, but I won't get into the details here. Dude has no case unless you set a trap for him.)

That's in Florida....in CA they can come right on in and fuck you up.

If they get hurt in the process you're liable.

If you aren't even there, you're liable.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

Rand Paul Is Right: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communications Without Warrants.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Rand Paul Is Right: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communications Without Warrants.

Paul explained how the NSA routinely and deliberately spies on Americans’ communications — listens to their calls and reads their emails — without a judicial warrant of any kind:

The way it works is, the FISA court, through Section 702, wiretaps foreigners and then [NSA] listens to Americans. It is a backdoor search of Americans. And because they have so much data, they can tap — type Donald Trump into their vast resources of people they are tapping overseas, and they get all of his phone calls.

And so they did this to President Obama. They — 1,227 times eavesdrops on President Obama’s phone calls. Then they mask him. But here is the problem. And General Hayden said this the other day. He said even low-level employees can unmask the caller. That is probably what happened to Flynn.

They are not targeting Americans. They are targeting foreigners. But they are doing it purposefully to get to Americans.

Paul gives no sign that he approves of this, but OTOH he does not appear particularly angry about it. That's strange coming from the man who's supposed to be Congress' leading libertarian.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

Paul gives no sign that he approves of this, but OTOH he does not appear particularly angry about it. That's strange coming from the man who's supposed to be Congress' leading libertarian.

He voted against FISA, one of the few Republicans to do so. Here's a list of his vote on other bills.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Or they can just ask to see other 5Eyes records. No law says the Brits can't spy on US citizen with technology supplied by the US.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Paul explained how the NSA routinely and deliberately spies on Americans’ communications — listens to their calls and reads their emails — without a judicial warrant of any kind:

The way it works is, the FISA court, through Section 702, wiretaps foreigners and then [NSA] listens to Americans. It is a backdoor search of Americans. And because they have so much data, they can tap — type Donald Trump into their vast resources of people they are tapping overseas, and they get all of his phone calls.

And so they did this to President Obama. They — 1,227 times eavesdrops on President Obama’s phone calls. Then they mask him. But here is the problem. And General Hayden said this the other day. He said even low-level employees can unmask the caller. That is probably what happened to Flynn.

They are not targeting Americans. They are targeting foreigners. But they are doing it purposefully to get to Americans.

Paul gives no sign that he approves of this, but OTOH he does not appear particularly angry about it. That's strange coming from the man who's supposed to be Congress' leading libertarian.

Paul is wrong in two major ways.

First of all, there is nothing routine about FISA warrants. According to this 2013 Mother Jones article:

the FISC has declined just 11 of the more than 33,900 surveillance requests made by the government in 33 years, the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday. That's a rate of .03 percent, which raises questions about just how much judicial oversight is actually being provided.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/06/fisa-court-nsa-spying-opinion-reject-request

Nearly 34,000 surveillance requests is a lot of spying. But 33 years is also a long time. An average of 1,000 surveillance investigations per year in a country of over 300 million people is NOT "routine."

Secondly, and most importantly, the idea that either NSA or the FBI is "targeting foreigners for the purpose of" getting to Americans is fucking nuts! Or at least it is fucking nuts to believe it is happening routinely to thousands, hundreds or even a few dozen innocent Americans. Not to say it CAN'T happen. In fact, it might even be a small subset of that .03 percent of requests that the FISA court rejects.

Because the legal standard for issuing a FISA warrant

"requires the court find probable cause that the target of the surveillance be a "foreign power" or an "agent of a foreign power", and that the places at which surveillance is requested is used or will be used by that foreign power or its agent.[2][18] In addition, the court must find that the proposed surveillance meet certain "minimization requirements" for information pertaining to U.S. persons."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act

Of course, many of you will simply refuse to believe that because you watch too much TV.









Edited to add: Judges who sit on the FISC are rotating federal judges. The fact that they reject so few of the government requests for surveillance warrants means one of two things: either they are a part of the surreptitious criminal conspiracy of spying on Americans excessively OR both they (and the government) are doing a reasonably good job of adhering to the legal standard of "probable cause."

Again, which of those two positions you tend to believe will depend on your level of government cynicism.

Oh, and one last thing everyone keeps forgetting about. In order for the government to "target foreigners in order to listen to YOUR phone calls" it has to somehow know in advance of that call that you have been or are likely to be talking to the targeted foreigner. Until such time as the government makes that connection, all previous unrecorded calls between you and "the target" have disappeared into the ether. The government can only tape the foreigner's calls and hopes he contacts you at some point in the future.

It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this is a horribly inefficient way to spy on YOU. Which is reason enough why it doesn't happen very often.

 

[doowdniw]

See?! How can they really be poor?! They have microwaves!

According to Chaffetz, if they want health insurance, they can just start cooking the old fashioned way. Hey, man, it's a choice.

 

[magicalmoments]

Apparently, when Trump tweeted about being "wire tapped" he didn't really mean "wire tapped."

Now, "wire tapping" just means surveillance, like the kind you can do through a microwave, at least according to Kellyanne Conway.

On behalf of all thinking people, may I just say...


Bwahahahaha! What a fucking bunch of incompetent lying dumbasses.

I can't wait for the deflection and spin from the RWCJ.

I guess that's as good as a complete admission that he was wrong and an apology as we're likely to receive. Thank you Mr Trump.

 

[james_1957]

tsk tsk, projecting again, little man?

You promised your off-board bro AJ that you wouldn't respond to my comments but your autism has made that solemn pledge damned near impossible, hasn't it Queerbait?

So you gin up these attack alts to lessen your inner schizophrenia and lessen the pain. Plus they're a good smokescreen to cover up the fact that you're cranking out 200+ posts a day.

And we both know that I have NO alts. I'm not a diminutive little runt thumping his chest and I for damned sure don't need to hide behind alts to say what I want to say (unlike, for example, YOU)....and I've got the posting history to prove it. Again, unlike you

Still have that "knack for getting women to return your PMs"? Not from what I've heard.

You're a chatty little fella, Rob.

I love knowing that I live rent free in your head.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

#TheOrangutang is going to have to admit he fully believes fake news.

 

[Rightguide]

Apparently, when Trump tweeted about being "wire tapped" he didn't really mean "wire tapped."

Now, "wire tapping" just means surveillance, like the kind you can do through a microwave, at least according to Kellyanne Conway.

On behalf of all thinking people, may I just say...


Bwahahahaha! What a fucking bunch of incompetent lying dumbasses.

I can't wait for the deflection and spin from the RWCJ.

The Democrat press said for a year he was being wiretapped, that he and his campaign were subjects of FBI, Intel Community, national security investigations, etc. But as soon as Trump blamed Obama, Clapper came out and denied that any surveillance or investigation took place, putting the lie to a year of NYTs and WaPo bullshit. Comey put the lie to the Russian connection as well. All proving you and yours all have no clothes and have been lying your galled partisan asses off.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The Democrat press said for a year he was being wiretapped . . .

Don't recall ever hearing that before the election.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

The Democrat press said for a year he was being wiretapped, that he and his campaign were subjects of FBI, Intel Community, national security investigations, etc. But as soon as Trump blamed Obama, Clapper came out and denied that any surveillance or investigation took place, putting the lie to a year of NYTs and WaPo bullshit. Comey put the lie to the Russian connection as well. All proving you and yours all have no clothes and have been lying your galled partisan asses off.

FAKE NEWS! LOL

Can't wait for the subpoenas

 

[RobDownSouth]

You're a chatty little fella, Rob.

I love knowing that I live rent free in your head.

Pointing out a physically and mentally diminutive poster's constant hiding behind alts is not "living rent free"...it's simply a public service.

#HeTriesSoooHard
#ShortManSyndrome