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Nonsense - They can't even agree who got to the empty tomb first.
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Nonsense - They can't even agree who got to the empty tomb first.
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At that time there wasn't a snap chat, instagram and facebook. They kept a lot history going by the oral tradition. (No, not that oral tradition).
I think they realized they had to put this down on paper/parchment - whatever!
Say you were an eyewitness to an event or interviewed witnesses. If the detective took 4 witnesses into separate rooms and interviewed them they would be suspicious if each of the accounts were exactly the same. Why? Because they would assume the witnesses had gotten together to tell the same story. No witness sees the events the same way. That is how people can look at the details of 9/11 and see that it was a terrorist attack and others can think it was a government conspiracy. At the heart of the story though is that planes hit the world trade center. That isn't being disputed.
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No. your statement is nonsense - no offense. The Gospels need to be read as complementing each other, not contrasting them as competiting for the truth. Why were other gospels withheld by Rome, and these published to public if they are obviously contradictory? Use your head.
At that time there wasn't a snap chat, instagram and facebook. They kept a lot history going by the oral tradition. (No, not that oral tradition).
I think they realized they had to put this down on paper/parchment - whatever!
Say you were an eyewitness to an event or interviewed witnesses. If the detective took 4 witnesses into separate rooms and interviewed them they would be suspicious if each of the accounts were exactly the same. Why? Because they would assume the witnesses had gotten together to tell the same story. No witness sees the events the same way. That is how people can look at the details of 9/11 and see that it was a terrorist attack and others can think it was a government conspiracy. At the heart of the story though is that planes hit the world trade center. That isn't being disputed.
No. Some of the reason is much more than that.
The originals are all lost. What we have today are translations from the Greek original translation, which was spread thru scribes.
Which makes the matter quite complicated, and difficult.
If you simply copy the same page over and over, when re-reading you are bound to have done mistakes. And if you translate something so mystical, you are most certainly going to translate it badly.
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They do agree. They give different perspectives. Nothing contradicts.
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I know that, but no half-smart skeptic is going to believe it. It's almost like going to a teacher and even though the assignment count's for all of your grades until the end of time you tell her/him you did your homework but you can't find it. It was an A+++ too, but now it sucks when you redid it. It's probably like things in my house. They put the originals somewhere safe and now they have forgotten where they are.
So you have to look at what you do have. I always watch what people put in their posts, but I know other people don't. This is just for people who might be interested in how I look at it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X359UFph8i0
Don't see why not, it's fairly obvious -- and is one reason why skeptics will not accept that this stuff is the Word of God, when it could not possibly even be the original text.
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I'm on your side here. I wouldn't believe it either. I look at it from what evidence we do have - not what is missing. You are right. So much for my analogy
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It is a pickle, for skeptics. And those do not believe.
Those who did, throughout the centuries, and those who do, and knowing the age old wisdoms that no lie lasts. No absolute power for the sake of power and/money lasts, yet, this does, and grows, and some always outgrow themselves and realize it is the truth, ... ; is what has kept this alive and absolutely nothing else.
They are not called 'secrets' and 'mysteries' if some skeptic - or kingoforeos with his mighty smartness, apparently - could figure out, for nothing.
For proper relevance, I recommend this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvhBWRNRbKo
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More Evidence Of The Parting Of The Red Sea: http://ilovebeingchristian.com/scientific-proof-god-did-the-miracle-of-parting-the-red-sea-must-see/
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Ask yourself why do you need faith in something greater than yourself?whats wrong with wrong with having faith in you? Why aren't you good enough for yourself. I love me some me. God doesn't exist. Which is perfectly fine. Not sad or bad or good. It just is.
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The Bible is one of the most self-contradictory books ever written. For every message there's an almost an exact opposite message somewhere else. Its a cobbled together work with stories stolen directly from other religions. From the codes of Hammurabi to the immaculate conception.
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I'm not postive but I think the Immaculate Conception is unique to Christianity.
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The Egyptians were on the Red Sea long before Moses. Finding some chariot wheels and horse hooves is evidence of nothing more than what everyone already knew.
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That's ignorant. Of course there are contradictions in the Gospels and Bible as a whole. Most are probably due to translations and the telephone game but they're there nonetheless.
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I don't need a faith in something higher than myself. To me it is just obvious that this world is not all about me. I have more love in my heart than I need for myself. (Not saying you don't) If it is all about me I want to be a princess and definitely have a tiara!
It may seem like a lot of things are contradictory but if you look at when Jesus came he did change the whole ball game. There is a big difference in the way things were done before and after he came. For example Leviticus(old testament) said an eye for an eye but Jesus said "but I say turn the other cheek"(new testament). What's that old hymn : Jesus changed it all. All to him I owe.
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Everyone should go to church and temple and anything else. How else can one learn? You don't have to agree with the religion to learn from it or at the very least have an informed opinion.
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Supposing I don't agree. What's the point?
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I said what the point was. You're just being dumb.
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Are you implying that I maintain that?
No, I just assume it; it is true of most Christians. Were it not, they would convert to Islam.
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No dear, not necessarily.
Islam says Jesus was a prophet but not divine. That is the truth to you?
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