Trump to eliminate taxation of profits to bring companies back!

[4est_4est_Gump]

LOL....

What a fuckin' nut.

Check him out in the Is Trump a Fascist thread...


This guy has a burning hatred for everything Republican and yet accuses Trump voters of voting for their sports team. This is a butt-hurt that goes way back and has nothing to do with current events.

 

[Ishmael]

Check him out in the Is Trump a Fascist thread...


This guy has a burning hatred for everything Republican and yet accuses Trump voters of voting for their sports team. This is a butt-hurt that goes way back and has nothing to do with current events.

I haven't had so much fun in ages. As if watching some of these people going off the rails isn't amusement enough, the economy is turning around and Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet. Obama is out there taking credit, and to an extent he deserves it. After all, he went out and campaigned for Hillary promising that if we elected her we'd get at least four more years of the same. Thank you Barry.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

tee hee


The Trump hate is marginalizing Democrats; people are sick of angry recriminations and being told to accept insanity as the new norm and are tuning them out. The recent Fox poll shows people actually warming to Trump even as the angry apocalyptic rhetoric aimed at Trump seeks to delegitimize his election.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I still say the straw that finally broke the camel's back was the bathroom issue.



People were already tolerating a lot, keeping their mouths shut, trying to avoid being a target of the SJWs (a mass movement), just live their lives and then crazy and insane became full on mental lunacy and people still kept quiet, but voted Trump and caught the Democrats by flat-footed surprised, confident that they had won the culture war and could impose almost any nonsense on the sheep they had "cowed..."

 

[Ishmael]

I still say the straw that finally broke the camel's back was the bathroom issue.



People were already tolerating a lot, keeping their mouths shut, trying to avoid being a target of the SJWs (a mass movement), just live their lives and then crazy and insane became full on mental lunacy and people still kept quiet, but voted Trump and caught the Democrats by flat-footed surprised, confident that they had won the culture war and could impose almost any nonsense on the sheep they had "cowed..."

Perhaps. I suspect that each individual had their own straw. But your reference to "imposition" is probably dead on. So many "impositions" were levied its hard to tell which one was "the straw."

Ishmael

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I still say the straw that finally broke the camel's back was the bathroom issue.



People were already tolerating a lot, keeping their mouths shut, trying to avoid being a target of the SJWs (a mass movement), just live their lives and then crazy and insane became full on mental lunacy and people still kept quiet, but voted Trump and caught the Democrats by flat-footed surprised, confident that they had won the culture war and could impose almost any nonsense on the sheep they had "cowed..."

"Asked if the Trump organization employs any transgender people, Mr. Trump said he truly did not know, but added, “I probably do.” And in response to a follow-up question, he said that if Caitlyn Jenner were to walk into Trump Tower and want to use a bathroom, he would be comfortable with her choosing any bathroom she wanted. “That is correct,” Mr. Trump said."

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...der-people-should-use-the-bathroom-they-want/

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Perhaps. I suspect that each individual had their own straw. But your reference to "imposition" is probably dead on. So many "impositions" were levied its hard to tell which one was "the straw."

Ishmael

"Asked if the Trump organization employs any transgender people, Mr. Trump said he truly did not know, but added, “I probably do.” And in response to a follow-up question, he said that if Caitlyn Jenner were to walk into Trump Tower and want to use a bathroom, he would be comfortable with her choosing any bathroom she wanted. “That is correct,” Mr. Trump said."

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...der-people-should-use-the-bathroom-they-want/

No one gives a flying squirrel shit as to what you think, but this time you're not even thinking, just doing the c&p and engaging in non-sequitors.

For example: Trump's properties are privately owned and like Target he can have whatever the fuck policy he wants and people can choose to accept or reject it of their own free will. Similarly, locally, we, as communities, pay property tax and own our schools so we should get to set the policies, not some unaccountable Progressive bureaucrats in DC working in that monstrosity created by the idiot Jimmy "Peanuts" Carter as a fop to the power of the NEA.

Now, try and present a cogent thought.

Double-Dawg DARE!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

This is interesting and echoes a lot of what Hoffer was positing about certain societies in True Believer, even predicting before hand that as soon as Russia (the Soviet Union) eased up on its people, the weakness would frustrate them and they would rebel:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/12/why_do_russians_trust_putin.html

 

[Magnetron]

What reminder? The reminder that you're bleating over something that isn't even on the docket? The entire discussion taking place in political circles is how to repatriate those trillions of dollars, not how to eliminate corporate taxation altogether.

Further there are discussions taking place as to the reduction of the corporate tax rates, not elimination, but reduction. The US has the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world, do you think that might have an impact on our ability to compete globally? Do you think that might have an impact on corporate decisions to "off-shore?" Do you think at all?

AJ has walked you down the path of a consumption tax, something that you seemed to be favorably swayed towards. If ever enacted you would see the large foreign corporations "off-shoring" to the US. A globalists and career politicians nightmare come true.

Ishmael

You can change the topic all you want instead of starting your own.

Thanks for playing.

 

[water505]

It's funny how the Republican base are so easily manipulated. Socialism is bad because Russia is bad! No, Russia is good now because Trump said so, but socialism is still bad because they said it's still bad!

You're just a bunch of subs looking for a dom to hurt ya good.

Whatever, you'll be crying for socialism when the self-driving cars eliminate tens of millions of jobs and you're all too stupid to demand that 20 or 30 hour livable wage work week that the we fucking fantasized the robots giving us back in the '50s!

Ask Venezuelans how socialism is working out for them. The Worker's Paradise is now competing neck and neck with Cuba for the world's biggest shit hole.

 

[Magnetron]

There's a million threads here where you can bash whatever party you care to.

Or in Ishmall's case, initiate a circle jerk with whoever will stroke him off.

Let's try to stay focused on the topic at hand; how would you go about funding the Fed without burdening businesses?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

"[Trump] said he will not be politically correct," said Sanders. "I think he said some outrageous and painful things, but I think people are tired of the same old politically correct rhetoric. I think some people believe he was speaking from his heart and willing to take on everybody."

Hayes then asked what political correctness means to Sanders. He responded:

"What it means is you have a set of talking points which have been poll-tested and focus-group-tested and that's what you say rather than what's really going on. And often what you are not allowed to say are things which offend very powerful people. For years and years we have been told by Republicans and many Democrats that our trade policy was a great idea, that it was working for America. The American people don't believe it. The American people I think want candidates and politicians to have the guts to stand up to the billionaire class and start representing the middle class and working families of America. I don't think it's more complicated than that."

...

"One of the arguments as to why Trump won," Sanders continued, "is the belief that most or many of his supporters are sexists or racists or homophobes. I happen not to believe that's the case. I think what he did do is he said, 'You know what, there's a lot of pain in this country, people are scared and people are worried.' People are tired of status quo politics. He broke through that."

Bernie Sanders, Reason.com

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

There's a million threads here where you can bash whatever party you care to.

Or in Ishmall's case, initiate a circle jerk with whoever will stroke him off.

Let's try to stay focused on the topic at hand; how would you go about funding the Fed without burdening businesses?

Covered. You engaged in a fallacy and demand a cure to an untruth.

That topic was easily laid to rest by Ish, so a lot of us moved on.

I gave you a solution despite your incorrect "serious charge."

 

[Magnetron]

Covered. You engaged in a fallacy and demand a cure to an untruth.

That topic was easily laid to rest by Ish, so a lot of us moved on.

I gave you a solution despite your incorrect "serious charge."

I gave everyone a chance to propose how they would fund the Fed without taxing business.

4 posters chimed in - you, me, Botany and Orfeo.

We still haven't heard from Eyer, Query and a few dozen others.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Isn't eyer banned again?



It reminds me of My Cousin Vinny: I can't answer the question it's a bullshit question...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

PS: I am Query. Paul is the Walrus...

 

[Magnetron]

I know, I know - it's sooooooooo dificult giving a straight answer to a straight question.

 

[Magnetron]

Isn't eyer banned again?

When isn't he?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It was question built upon the back of a false premise.

Perhaps so many didn't answer as to not appear to be validating the premise...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

When isn't he?

Every third weekend excluding Sunday afternoon...

 

[Magnetron]

It was question built upon the back of a false premise.

Perhaps so many didn't answer as to not appear to be validating the premise...

Regardless, it was a question.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Not every question deserves an answer.


My answer was not so much to the question but an attempt to introduce some economic reality.

 

[Magnetron]

Not every question deserves an answer.


My answer was not so much to the question but an attempt to introduce some economic reality.

The reality is that the U.S. has a severely flawed tax system.

The challenge presented here is to propose worthwhile ideas to supercede it. Put it out of it's misery.

 

[Magnetron]

Or perhaps fresh ideas and creative thought are only available in the writing forums of Lit?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Won't happen.

"My" plan was developed by academics hired by flat-taxers to prove their idea was the best. Flat-taxers are not going to give up on the superiority of their idea, no matter what their own researchers demonstrated. Similarly, the Left is not about to give up the politics of envy or the idea that you can target the rich and corporations with "their fair share" of taxation. We know that the rich have the means for avoidance as well as the ability to buy government. They have no vested reason to change either. The government loves the idea that they can use the tax code to punish groups who refuse to pay protection money to their campaigns. They sure as hell don't want a change. That 47% who relies on the government to exempt them from taxation while accepting the alms of the taxed, they sure as hell have no incentive to call for change.

Personally, I have voiced my disapproval of the Progressive income tax and for similar reason I am not a fan of the flat tax because it is still a tax on income and not on the transaction.

So there it is. The lack of unity prevents any attempt to overcome the inertia that is our tax code. Too many people feel they have something to lose and nothing to gain.