Robbing Americans to pay for illegals

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The Department of Health and Human Services informed Congress this week that it will raid heath programs for Americans to pay for thousands of children and teenagers flooding the southwest border.

Barbara Clark, a deputy director of the department, sent a letter to congressional staffers indicating that HHS Secretary Sylvia Burwell intends to shift $167 million to pay for housing, health care, schooling, recreation, and other services for unaccompanied minors until the current temporary spending bill expires Dec. 9.

Clark wrote that the budget outlook for the rest of the fiscal year that began Oct. 1 is dire unless Congress provides $1-2 billion on top of the proposed $1.2 billion budget increase for the Office of Refugee Resettlement, the agency charged with placing children and teens with sponsors in the United States.

Here's where Americans will be deliberately short-changed:

- $14 million from the Health Resources and Services Administration, including $4.5 million from the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program and $2 million from the Maternal and Child Health program.
- $14 million from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, for contagious disease prevention and treatment and other critical public health programs.
- $72 million from the National Institutes of Health, for research on cancer, diabetes, drug abuse, mental health, infectious diseases, and much more.
- $8 million from the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, for treatment and prevention programs.
- $8 million from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
- $39 million from the Children and Families Services Program.
- $4 million from the Aging and Disability Services Programs.
- $3 million from the Public Health and Social Services Emergency Fund, including more than $1 million from the Pandemic Influenza and BioShield Fund.

And it only gets worse:

The administration has reunited many of those illegal arrivals with family members. The Associated Press reported that 80 percent of youths arriving illegally from February 2014 to September 2015 went to sponsors who themselves are illegal immigrants.

Due to backlogs in immigration courts, it can take years for the asylum claims of those youths to be adjudicated. The Office of Refugee Resettlement, meanwhile, loses track almost half of those minors, according to a recent report by the Center for Immigration Studies.

Obama Raids Health Programs to Pay for Illegal Immigrants
Health and Human Services informs Congress $167 million will be redirected to services for migrants
http://www*****zette.com/polizette/obama-raids-health-programs-pay-illegal-immigrants/

 

[kilometers]

They pay taxes too.

 

[Hard_Rom]

OP, what would you suggest should be done with these children?

 

[BotanyBoy]

They pay taxes too.

Not all of them.

OP, what would you suggest should be done with these children?

Not our problem.

 

[pointless]

okay. i'll pay my share. anyone here got change for a dollar?

 

[Hard_Rom]

Not our problem.

Once they cross the border they are. You may not like it but they are. Unless you are willing to pack them in a bus and drive them back across the border. And if the Mexican government will take them. I doubt they have any interest in taking Guatemalan children back. Or any undocumented ones. Not all are Mexicans.

And don't forget the US is a Christian country. Christian charity says you can't just abandon helpless children to cartel smugglers or without food and water on some desert section of border land.

 

[screwulibz]

OP, what would you suggest should be done with these children?

shoot em at border

 

[kilometers]

Not all of them.



Not our problem.

Yes. All of them. You look foolish if you're complaining about undocumented people but don't even know how your own country works.

 

[Conager]

They pay taxes too.

Paying sales taxes on items purchased using gov't benefits is not "paying taxes." Nor is the portion of rent the landlord uses to pay property taxes in a section 8 property.

Why is it that redistribtionists like you see some big benefit of the money that government spends but sees no benefit of the money spent by people that the government takes less taxes from?

Why is money after it's been filtered through the government somehow worth more than money that never went to the government?

 

[Vanadorn]

And don't forget the US is a Christian country.

Nope. No it isn't. Maybe some of the PEOPLE are Christians, but the country is not. Separation of Church and State? Remember it? Regardless of your religion - stop jamming it down everyone else's throats (Christian, catholic, jewish, muslin, zen budhists, flying spaghetti monster, whatever - just stop.)

They're here, let's deal with it, but not a fan of taking from existing programs and then whining that they need more.

If you KNOW there is a problem, not budgeting for it and expecting the fairy wand will make it go away is like sticking your head in the sand.

-V

 

[JohnnySavage]

It always strikes me as ironic that the type of people with these complaints aren't the ones that pay taxes anyway.

 

[Conager]

It always strikes me as ironic that the type of people with these complaints aren't the ones that pay taxes anyway.

that's because you assume that everyone votes themselves plunder. Some people have moral objections to plunder whether or not they themselves are being plundered. It's called integrity.

 

[about_average]

The Department of Health and Human Services informed Congress this week that it will raid heath programs for Americans to pay for thousands of children and teenagers flooding the southwest border

The US is not being flooded by illegal aliens.

If you have a pond in your front yard that is stream fed, and water is running out of it faster than it runs in, you wouldn't say your front yard is being flooded.

I notice you left out a significant quote from your link.

“With ORR’s balances depleted, and having exhausted the additional funding available through the full exercise of the secretary’s transfer authority, ORR is not able to meet our legal and humanitarian obligations to shelter these children,” she wrote. “HHS cannot continue to provide the services we are statutorily bound to provide and avoid a scenario where children are potentially stranded at the border without additional funding from the Congress.”

 

[JohnnySavage]

that's because you assume that everyone votes themselves plunder. Some people have moral objections to plunder whether or not they themselves are being plundered. It's called integrity.

These arguments inevitably come from the socioeconomic class that aren't really complaining about tax money being spent on illegals; rather, they are complaining about tax money being spent on someone other then themselves. The one's that are hurt by a cheap labor force.

The plunder is there already and it's not going away because the system is rigged to benefit those at the top.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

...

And don't forget the US is a Christian country. Christian charity says you can't just abandon helpless children to cartel smugglers or without food and water on some desert section of border land.

Say that to a Lib...,



It's like showing the cross to a vampire.

 

[Conager]

These arguments inevitably come from the socioeconomic class that aren't really complaining about tax money being spent on illegals; rather, they are complaining about tax money being spent on someone other then themselves. The one's that are hurt by a cheap labor force.

The plunder is there already and it's not going away because the system is rigged to benefit those at the top.

Oh I definitely concur that in sheer number of dollars the four trillion dollars does not go to the pool. Much less simply illegals.

The vast bulk of the unwashed masses of which I would consider myself a member of our cheated every day by our government that diminishes the value of our Labour and our savings by monetary policy that amounts to nothing short of erosion.

An awful lot of our deficit spending goes to enrich the well-connected. Whether that be a military contractor a well-connected union or absolute draft Four Bridges to nowhere. It does to our money and money supply what accretion and erosion due to land a little when a river moves from One bank to the other somebody gain some land somebody loses some land

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It always strikes me as ironic that the type of people with these complaints aren't the ones that pay taxes anyway.

Name names or this is a straw man argument.