What pissed you off today? Mark II

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WPMOT? Getting a dirty look for opening a row of RITZ CRACKERS too loudly.

Unless you were in a lecture or memorial service or something along those lines.....who cares? Those things are damn near impossible to open quietly.

I'd have been tempted to lock eyes, chew as loud as possible and smile occasionally, just letting them see how much you don't give a damn about their weird judgmental ass. And that Ritz crackers are fucking delicious.
 
Went to nurse-practitioner I expected would give me a flu shot, or at least discuss it. (I posted yesterday somewhere on these boards I would refuse it.) They never even discussed it.

Also showed them paperwork regarding my driving abilities being revoked via something involving paperwork I had given them before to fill-out, etc. They told me they would have to look... something (mumbled a lot) about that.

So they don't know where to look to find any proof of how much part they may have played in something that will affect my future?! Nor do they wish to give me a shot many believe will protect me from getting iller, despite the fact my mile-long list of diagnosed diseases means my immune system is (term ironic, no pun intended) shot?!

Who cares about health care when those providing it don't care about you enough to do the minimum work?!
 
(apologies in advance to G since I know she's not in a position to respond further, but I have Strong Views about this one)

I think we have to be very careful here. I agree with you on choices I would make for feeding a child ( btw, are you cooking any more yet?) but then what about when people say...hmm, actually bdsm in a household ( regardless of children's exposure to it) is not a great idea, and being connected with a site like lit risks losing custody of kids? Is Dr Pepper better than nothing? You start from a base where you have a decent brain; some people really do not. Or...people decide germs of domestic animals are bad, so keeping pets in child households is deemed 'outside societal norms ' and frowned upon.

Deciding when the state has the right to intervene in how somebody parents their own kids is really difficult ethical territory. I believe parents shouldn't be able to decline life-saving evidence-based treatment for their kids just because they believe prayer and/or magic crystals will fix it; I also believe parents should in some cases be able to prioritise quality of life over length of life for a child who can't understand the issues involved. In between, lots of "it's complicated, I dunno" territory. In general, I think the state should need a very good reason before it overrides parents' decisions for their own children.

But vaccination isn't that kind of ethical problem. It's not just "I make decisions for my kids" when everybody's breathing the same air. My unvaccinated kid can catch pertussis and pass it on to somebody else's infant who's too young to be vaccinated, or somebody who's immunocompromised, or somebody who couldn't be vaccinated because he's allergic to some component of the vaccine.

IMHO that makes it a simpler choice; I might have the right to expose my own child to risk, but I definitely don't have the right to expose others that way. I do take your point about BDSM being something that quite a few might want to prohibit, but I don't think it's comparable to a situation where we know that non-vaccination causes harm to others.
 
Vaccinating the kids against MMR is probably the only time that hubby and I have disagreed completely. And the problem is that there is/was no compromise position - you either do it or you don't.

Hubby's view was they were just childhood illnesses that everyone gets and recovers from with no ill effects (his experience) so why risk an irreversible disability (according to articles in respected media at the time) on a healthy child for such a minor reason.

My view was that there are risks of ill effects such as lifetime shortsightedness (my own experience) and that non-vaccination would lead to an increase in the occurrence of all 3 illnesses, so that son might catch mumps post-puberty with all the potential risks of that.

We just couldn't agree at all, so we did nothing.

Then son caught a life-threatening virus and ended up in hospital. When the crisis had passed and he was having a follow up appointment, the doctor finished by saying very briskly that we'd 'forgotten' to have him vaccinated, and he just happened to have the syringe ready, and (to son) would you like a lollipop (enthusiastic nodding from son), so lets do this little scratch, and there you go, here's your lollipop....

I was so grateful. I don't care that it was sneaky, I was just so relieved that the decision was made for us.

Hubby still wasn't happy when we had the same discussion when daughter was born, but at least we had the experience of no ill effects to son by that time.
 
My kids are vaccinated. They don't go to daycare or preschool (yet) so their risk is minimized as compared to others. But I don't think I could, in good concious, send my kids to a public institution without being vaccinated, for their sakes and the sake of the other kids. Vaccination doesn't guarantee protection, but it puts the odds in their favor, or lessens the dangers if they do get some thing. None of them have ever had a poor reaction, and if they are a little sore the most they'll get is a dose of Tylenol to help them sleep the first night after.

I've heard some pediatricians doing delayed vaccine schedules. Where they space shots out so that they aren't getting two or three at a time. It's more frequent visits, but it's less of a strain on their tiny systems and helps identify reactions easier if one should come up. I considered it for my daughter when she was born but Masters family is ALWAYS sick, so I decided on the regular schedule. Same goes for my boys.
 
Know what pisses me off?
That I'm stuck being married to a man who doesn't listen or remember the things I tell him 3 days in a row, then yells at me about the things he doesn't bother to remember. Because it's MY schedule, not his. So why should he. :rolleyes:
 
Know what pisses me off?
That I'm stuck being married to a man who doesn't listen or remember the things I tell him 3 days in a row, then yells at me about the things he doesn't bother to remember. Because it's MY schedule, not his. So why should he. :rolleyes:

I have had whole conversations with Master while he's playing on his phone that he didn't remember later, I feel you :rolleyes:
 
-snippity snoop-

I've heard some pediatricians doing delayed vaccine schedules. Where they space shots out so that they aren't getting two or three at a time. It's more frequent visits, but it's less of a strain on their tiny systems and helps identify reactions easier if one should come up. I considered it for my daughter when she was born but Masters family is ALWAYS sick, so I decided on the regular schedule. Same goes for my boys.
The idea that vaccines are a 'strain' if not done spaced out out is an unfortunately widespread myth that stems from the idea that vaccines contain 'dead' viruses that immune systems have to fight. Vaccines actually only contain things called receptor sites that all microorganisms have on their surfaces which are unique to their genetic lineage, none of the actual viral/bacterial DNA that causes illness. So if a virus were a human, you're not getting a dead human, it's more like you're getting its fingernails or its clothes.

All they do is force somebody's immune system to make antibodies that can stick to those specific receptors without needing to fight off any illness. And it's not like our immune systems can only fight one specific thing at a time. There's no strain and no reaction time difference, total myth propagated by the anti-vaxx crowd in the hope that people will either forget or run into something that prevents them from returning to get the other vaccines.

Because THE 'TISM!!
 
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The idea that vaccines are a 'strain' if not done spaced out out is an unfortunately widespread myth that stems from the idea that vaccines contain 'dead' viruses that immune systems have to fight. Vaccines actually only contain things called receptor sites that all microorganisms have on their surfaces which are unique to their genetic lineage, none of the actual viral/bacterial DNA that causes illness. So if a virus were a human, you're not getting a dead human, it's more like you're getting its fingernails or its clothes.

All they do is force somebody's immune system to make antibodies that can stick to those specific receptors without needing to fight off any illness. And it's not like our immune systems can only fight one specific thing at a time. There's no strain and no reaction time difference, total myth propagated by the anti-vaxx crowd in the hope that people will either forget or run into something that prevents them from returning to get the other vaccines.


I understand they're killed vaccines.

I'm probably wrong and have not read anything even remotely close to recently. But I think the flu vaccine is the only.... Not live... But...i dunno not killed virus vaccine?

It's the only one I waiver on from year to year. Since they play guess what strain this year will be the effectiveness can vary. If it turns out they predicted wrong and that years vaccine will be pretty largely ineffective then we skip it. If not, then we all get it. But it's the only one I see as optional.

My Masters family thought I was crazy to ask them to get the pretussis(sp) vaccine if they were going to be spending time with my babies. They all always get an awful cough that lingers through the winter. Master had one nagging too until he got his shot. My family had all gotten theirs without so much as a grumble.
 
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Flu vaccines really piss me off. That they're even allowed to market something with such a low effectiveness rating that it actually hurts the reputations of other very important vaccines. Don't know about last year, but I got caught up in the fiasco 2 years ago where the vaccine not only wasn't effective (they picked the wrong flu strains to protect against) but it made people very sick (including me).

My kids are vaccinated.

My exposure to anti-vaxers is more deep end conspiracy theorists. But lest say for a moment that I believe there's mind control drugs in the vaccines. Guess what happens when you decline, in that scenario? If you believe in shadow governments, why wouldn't they keep a watch-list of the unvaccinated?

My kids would be safer on record as under the influence than not.

The video of the asshole proposing a virus in a vaccine to lobotomize newly identified regions of the brain associated with religious zealotry was a college psych professor with NO IDEA how viruses work, trying to suggest "practical applications" of his newfound discovery. Fuck that guy.

Now if a geneticist or microbiologist were talking about the possibility of tailoring a virus... or worse, a protozoa like Toxoplasma Gondii to attack specific regions of the brain and to be more efficacious on humans, then it's time to be scared, because if they're saying that shit in the open, we're fucked already. And just forget about whether it's in your vaccines or the food supply... if it were specifically Toxoplasma Gondii; the mind control would be delivered to us by our own pets. And guess what; most anti-vaxers I've met are also cat owners.

My older brother is a microbiologist and getting into genetics. He'll warn me if the overlords are planning something.

As far as toxoplasma gondii * sigh * we had a lot of worried clients come into the clinic for that one. If your pets feces are tested at check ups regularly, you're not likely to contract it from your cat. Cats who go outdoors and eat rodents are more likely to be at risk and should be tested more regularly. Usually humans pick it up from their feces. But the spores are usually trapped in the wet turds. If you scoop the litter at least every 24hrs, (12 is better), your chances of stirring it up and catching it is very very low. And I shouldn't have to say this but WASH YOUR HANDS AFTER SCOOPING CAT POOP.

We had a cat when I was pregnant. As a precaution I tested his stool several times throughout my pregnancy, as he liked to catch mice. He was always negative, but Master always changed and cleaned the litter box for me. At work I avoided them as best I could. If I had to change one I was gloved and wore a mask. But when I wasn't pregnant, whatever, bring on the mind control. Most litter boxes were changed twice a day anyway, so again, risk was low.
 
Who doesn't wash their hands after touching cat poop? My God!


Idiot salesperson coming in and slapping the back of my shoulder, the one with adhesive capsulitis. I looked at the others in the room when he did it, and they nicely escorted him out. I can swear in 4 languages, and I did right after that!
 
Who doesn't wash their hands after touching cat poop? My God!


Idiot salesperson coming in and slapping the back of my shoulder, the one with adhesive capsulitis. I looked at the others in the room when he did it, and they nicely escorted him out. I can swear in 4 languages, and I did right after that!

You would be surprised. :rolleyes: I kinda feel the same way about those bathroom signs that say employees must wash their hands. Like dude, EVERYONE needs to wash their hands, and you shouldn't have to have a sign to tell ppl that. For fucks sake.

Sry bout the shoulder bro. What's capsulitis? I could google it but.... I'm not...
 
You would be surprised. :rolleyes: I kinda feel the same way about those bathroom signs that say employees must wash their hands. Like dude, EVERYONE needs to wash their hands, and you shouldn't have to have a sign to tell ppl that. For fucks sake.

Sry bout the shoulder bro. What's capsulitis? I could google it but.... I'm not...

When I worked in the food service industry, I would wash BEFORE going to the bathroom and twice afterwards.

adhesive capsulitis better known as frozen shoulder. http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1261598-overview
 

The idea that vaccines are a 'strain' if not done spaced out out is an unfortunately widespread myth that stems from the idea that vaccines contain 'dead' viruses that immune systems have to fight. Vaccines actually only contain things called receptor sites that all microorganisms have on their surfaces which are unique to their genetic lineage, none of the actual viral/bacterial DNA that causes illness. So if a virus were a human, you're not getting a dead human, it's more like you're getting its fingernails or its clothes.

All they do is force somebody's immune system to make antibodies that can stick to those specific receptors without needing to fight off any illness. And it's not like our immune systems can only fight one specific thing at a time. There's no strain and no reaction time difference, total myth propagated by the anti-vaxx crowd in the hope that people will either forget or run into something that prevents them from returning to get the other vaccines.


Because THE 'TISM!!


Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

:https://youtu.be/F-bsf2x-aeE
 
I understand they're killed vaccines.

I'm probably wrong and have not read anything even remotely close to recently. But I think the flu vaccine is the only.... Not live... But...i dunno not killed virus vaccine?

It's the only one I waiver on from year to year. Since they play guess what strain this year will be the effectiveness can vary. If it turns out they predicted wrong and that years vaccine will be pretty largely ineffective then we skip it. If not, then we all get it. But it's the only one I see as optional.

My Masters family thought I was crazy to ask them to get the pretussis(sp) vaccine if they were going to be spending time with my babies. They all always get an awful cough that lingers through the winter. Master had one nagging too until he got his shot. My family had all gotten theirs without so much as a grumble.


MMR and Varicella are live vaccine.

Nasal flu is live.

Dats bout it.

There's no evidence supporting spacing Vaccines are beneficial. Quite the opposite.
 
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