"Basket of Deplorables" - Hillary Correctly Labels Trump Supporters. Beautiful.

Anyone here on the "body double" bandwagon yet? It's the conspiracy craze of the hour. Don't miss out!
 
Anyone here on the "body double" bandwagon yet? It's the conspiracy craze of the hour. Don't miss out!

DizzyBooby was spewing that nonsense almost immediately.

If you are dumb enough to think Sandy Hook was all "crisis" actors hired by the government to infringe on the 2A, as do many Trump supporters, you might be dumb enough to fall for the "body double" tinfoil hattery too..
 
I see you were waxing nonsense.

There are two types of pneumonia, plus she had been on antibiotics.

You absolutely have no idea what her medical issues are, and neither do I. All we know is what we have been told. You believe what you have been told, and I do not.

Attacking me will not change these facts.
 
That's a crock of brainless shit and you only choose to believe it because you are consumed with hatred. I was referring to her national service as well. She's engaged in decades of service that has benefited the citizens of the United States whereas as far as I can see you've contributed worthless nada but bitching. I don't worship her; she has her problems. But stacked up against you and your drivel here, she's Superwoman.

I am not consumed with hatred.

I can easily link to her actions as Sec of State which which I disagree, actions which costed many many lives, but I understand it is futile because you have decided what to do with your vote. That's fair enough, it is your vote, I respect your exercising your choice.

Why can't you accept that I intend to do something different with my vote?

Why are you consumed with hatred towards me for simply having a different opinion?
 
Can you pretend to be adult for once and carry on a conversation without resulting to personal insults? So we disagree, why do you have to sink into the mud every single time that happens? I have always assumed that you are of at least average intelligence, and yet here you yet again up to the same old same old.

I am wasting my time because you are incapable of holding a discussion but here is my response for others who may be interested:

Pneumonia? Maybe. Maybe not. In truth don't know whether she is medically fit for office. Neither do you. However the perception is certainly there that she has a serious medical issue, and that perception will affect the electorate. It affects me as well - it appears she is unfit. I have never seen a candidate buckle like that. I have never seen a person with pneumonia physically react like that. She clearly is not healthy. Is that fair? Maybe not. But that's the reality. What happened yesterday will cost her votes. I think she just lost the election. Time will tell.

So later in this thread you are calling her inconsiderate for possibly infecting others so which is it, do you think she has it or doesn't she. Because right now it looks like you are arguing out of both sides of your mouth and creating a damned if she does, damned if she doesn't scenario.

As for discussions, how do you expect to have serious discussions when you throw out crazy shit and insist you don't have to back it up like BLM is trying to feminize black men or that an Olympic ad is really the new world order anthem? You dive into crazy conspiracy theories and don't even have a rationale other than you think it and everyone else is stupid for not realizing it.
 
You absolutely have no idea what her medical issues are, and neither do I. All we know is what we have been told. You believe what you have been told, and I do not.

Attacking me will not change these facts.

The facts are that she has exhibited symptoms of pneumonia and her doctor confirmed it. Those are actual facts. What you base your opinions on is something else.
 
So later in this thread you are calling her inconsiderate for possibly infecting others so which is it, do you think she has it or doesn't she. Because right now it looks like you are arguing out of both sides of your mouth and creating a damned if she does, damned if she doesn't scenario.

As for discussions, how do you expect to have serious discussions when you throw out crazy shit and insist you don't have to back it up like BLM is trying to feminize black men or that an Olympic ad is really the new world order anthem? You dive into crazy conspiracy theories and don't even have a rationale other than you think it and everyone else is stupid for not realizing it.

I don't like her. I am filled with bias against her. I readily admit that. Fuck Clinton and her genocides.

BLM is pushing homosexuality into the black community, yes. The movement is run by lesbians, trannies, and Jews pretending to be black. Go to their various websites, they aren't even hiding it. But that is a different topic. Why are you bringing it up here? If you want me to back it up, start a thread on it and I will do so so long as I am actively posting.

If I can think of a snazzy title I will start that thread on my own. Something about homos, trannies and Jewish puppetmasters...
 
The facts are that she has exhibited symptoms of pneumonia and her doctor confirmed it. Those are actual facts. What you base your opinions on is something else.

You have not seen any actual medical evidence (neither have I) therefore those are not facts.

The only fact about her health is that we have been told that she has pneumonia and that her doctor confirmed it.
 
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I don't like her. I am filled with bias against her. I readily admit that. Fuck Clinton and her genocides.

BLM is pushing homosexuality into the black community, yes. The movement is run by lesbians, trannies, and Jews pretending to be black. Go to their various websites, they aren't even hiding it. But that is a different topic. Why are you bringing it up here? If you want me to back it up, start a thread on it and I will do so so long as I am actively posting.

If I can think of a snazzy title I will start that thread on my own. Something about homos, trannies and Jewish puppetmasters...

It's clear you are filled with bias against her. So how can anyone have a rational conversation with you about her? Personally I don't like her either but I can be objective about almost any given topic which is why I frequently disagree with your posts.

I brought up BLM and the Olympic commercial as examples of when you don't have a rational argument yet assert you are correct and declare you don't have to prove anything with links or even logic. Since you questioned why I can't argue like an adult, I thought those examples were relevant. Personally I think you embrace some crazy shit but I don't care enough to start a thread on it since you declined to back it the first time.
 
You have not seen any actual medical evidence (neither have I) therefore those are not facts.

Uum.

1. Clinton showed symptoms that can be explained by pneumonia.
2. A doctor said "it's pneumonia".

Two things that happened.

The possibility to scrutinize is: Was the doctor lying?

Usually when people jump straight to "it's a Big Lie, conspiracy and cover up!", it's because their Occam's Razor has gotten rusty. Hate corrodes.
 
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A question for the "it was just pneumonia" crowd: will the child she hugged a few hours later catch it? Isn't it irresponsible to hug a child when you are in the throws of something as contagious as pneumonia? It is deadly for children and the elderly. How do you feel about your candidate being willing to risk someone else's life for a photo op?

It is believed she has bacterial pneumonia and not viral pneumonia. Bacterial pneumonia is not contagious.

Even Fox is in agreement and not throwing her under the bus on that issue:

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/09/12/hillary-clintons-pneumonia-is-infectious.html
 
It's clear you are filled with bias against her. So how can anyone have a rational conversation with you about her? Personally I don't like her either but I can be objective about almost any given topic which is why I frequently disagree with your posts.

You don't have to discuss her with me.

I brought up BLM and the Olympic commercial as examples of when you don't have a rational argument yet assert you are correct and declare you don't have to prove anything with links or even logic. Since you questioned why I can't argue like an adult, I thought those examples were relevant. Personally I think you embrace some crazy shit but I don't care enough to start a thread on it since you declined to back it the first time.

I do have rational arguments. How in depth I get into things depends on my free time. Today I have a lot of free time and have been posting a lot. I often don't post for weeks/months, aside from a quicky here and there. If you don't like my posts on BLM, so be it. I don't owe you anything. If you want to hear more about what I have to say, ask me without the insults. I have posted threads on my opinions with a lot of citations and am typically insulted in the same manner as when I simply spout my opinion with no citations whatsoever, so I no longer feel the need to bother.
 
"It is believed" by whom?

Fox? I don't care what they report. Fuck fox. Murdoch desperately wants Clinton to be elected (same with all MSM), where have you been?

HER physician, the medical opinion of other doctors who have experience understanding the symptoms between bacterial pneumonia and viral pneumonia. Maybe once you go get your medical degree, she'll let you examine her too since apparently that's what it will take - they may force you to take off the shiny tinfoil hat first though.
 
Tbh, initially I was with those who attacked Hillars for hiding her illness, given the stakes involved. And I still feel that, if she has such a serious illness like Parkinson, her party should put forward another candidate.

But after seeing the media circus, I keep asking myself:

Surely there must be some safety mechanisms in place, even for presidential candidates.
I mean, if their capacits to perform their job or so on is questioned, police officers and many other professionals can be easily called to order and demanded to disclose their medical records, or to have a health assessment


So why wouldn't all those who claim that they are concerned go through that official route too? Instead of just engaging in this public circus .
Looks more and more like a smear campaign to me
 
Uum.

1. Clinton showed symptoms that can be explained by pneumonia.
2. A doctor said "it's pneumonia".

Two things that happened.

The possibility to scrutinize is: Was the doctor lying?

Usually when people jump straight to "it's a Big Lie, conspiracy and cover up!", it's because their Occam's Razor has gotten rusty. Hate corrodes.

"Showed" and "Said" is not the presentation of a fact. In a court of law, for instance, the doctor would present back up such as her test results, why s/he diagnosed her in this manner based upon professional opinion of the visual symptons, etc.

Why are you so desperate to prove me "wrong" on this? We disagree. Suck it up.
 
Tbh, initially I was with those who attacked Hillars for hiding her illness, given the stakes involved. And I still feel that, if she has such a serious illness like Parkinson, her party should put forward another candidate.

But after seeing the media circus, I keep asking myself:

Surely there must be some safety mechanisms in place, even for presidential candidates.
I mean, if their capacits to perform their job or so on is questioned, police officers and many other professionals can be easily called to order and demanded to disclose their medical records, or to have a health assessment


So why wouldn't all those who claim that they are concerned go through that official route too? Instead of just engaging in this public circus .
Looks more and more like a smear campaign to me

We have laws against demanding medical records. People with a job that can demanad such a thing agreed to it when they initially applied. For everyone else, it is up to the individual's discretion.
 
HER physician, the medical opinion of other doctors who have experience understanding the symptoms between bacterial pneumonia and viral pneumonia. Maybe once you go get your medical degree, she'll let you examine her too since apparently that's what it will take - they may force you to take off the shiny tinfoil hat first though.

Do you always believe what you are told?

I don't.

My gyno told me to get a hysterectomy 10 years ago due to my fibroid tumors. She said it was my only choice. I have no medical degree, did my own research, and shrank the tumors using TCM because I did not want to be plunged into menopause in my early 30s. It was the right decision.

Why are you insulting me the "tin foil hat" designation instead of simply speaking to me as though I am a human being? Can you at least pretend that I am a human worthy of bare bones respect, even though my mind differs from yours? Pretend I am gay whereas you are straight.
 
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Uum.

1. Clinton showed symptoms that can be explained by pneumonia.
2. A doctor said "it's pneumonia".

Two things that happened.

The possibility to scrutinize is: Was the doctor lying?

Usually when people jump straight to "it's a Big Lie, conspiracy and cover up!", it's because their Occam's Razor has gotten rusty. Hate corrodes.

You forgot to throw in "dark."

They spent a lot of time and money on focus groups and it was decided that dark hatred was what sold best so get with the program and try to parrot the party line a little more closely, would you?

Your analogy is off as well Occam's razor is not about the razor it's about what's left after you use the razor using a dull rusty razor is going to rip even more off leaving even less behind. A sharp razor removes less, not more.
 
Do you always believe what you are told?

I don't.

My gyno told me to get a hysterectomy 10 years ago due to my fibroid tumors. She said it was my only choice. I have no medical degree, did my own research, and shrank the tumors using TCM because I did not want to be plunged into menopause in my early 30s. It was the right decision.

Why are you insulting me the "tin foil hat" designation instead of simply speaking to me as though I am a human being? Can you at least pretend that I am a human worthy of bare bones respect, even though my mind differs from yours? Pretend I am gay whereas you are straight.

I'm going to believe a doctor over a bunch of armchair warriors about the health of someone. And a basic search on the internet will tell you that a hysterectomy is the old school method of treatment fibroid tumors whereas there are newer and less invasive methods of treatment. You happened to have an old school doctor apparently - that's the beauty of a second opinion.

Why Hilary Clinton's health is even a topic of discussion is ridiculous, especially given the fact that she and her doctor both have stated it is pneumonia. Roosevelt suffered polio, Kennedy had Addison's disease, George Bush Sr. vomited on a foreign dignitary during an event, and Franklin Pierce was known as "Fainting Frank." Something tells me the media didn't bother to crucify these men in the same fashion; hell, in the instance of Kennedy's Addison's disease it wasn't even revealed until he had passed. Even Reagan's own family has admitted that they thought perhaps Reagan's Alzheimer's started as early as his second term.

It's just ironic that this election, with a woman (aka the weaker sex), is when health becomes an issue. Some will say that is my own tinfoil hat thought though.
 
Yes, you should always get a second opinion on serious medical matters. No, you have no obligation to make sure News at 7 gets a copy of the diagnosis.

How many opinions did Hillary get on her pneumonia? Hundreds.
 
Yes, you should always get a second opinion on serious medical matters. No, you have no obligation to make sure News at 7 gets a copy of the diagnosis.

How many opinions did Hillary get on her pneumonia? Hundreds.

She has pneumonia because she is a lesbian. That is how it works.
 
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