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Crazy when you can't even exercise your right and freedom to protest properly. When it's about them, that is.
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Crazy when you can't even exercise your right and freedom to protest properly. When it's about them, that is.
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Tim Wolfe resigns as University of Missouri system president
November 9, 2015
University of Missouri System president Tim Wolfe abruptly announced his resignation Monday morning amid strong criticism of his leadership in handling issues of race.
Wolfe's resignation comes after members of the Mizzou football team said Saturday night they would not participate in any football-related activities until Wolfe was removed or resigned. The team members' action was in support of a student holding a hunger strike to protest Wolfe's leadership on racial issues.
The football players said that they were standing in solidarity with the Concerned Student 1950 movement, which has for months now called on the university to seriously address systemic racism on campus.
In October, black students staged a protest along the homecoming parade route. They formed a chain in front of the president's car chanting, "It's our duty to fight for our freedom!"
Wolfe said nothing to the students and when police removed the students from the street, the crowd erupted in applause. Some of the protesters cried.
http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post...-resigns-university-missouri-system-president
Tim Wolfe was confronted by a group of students outside a fundraiser in Kansas City. They asked him what he thought systematic oppression was.
"I will give you an answer and I'm sure it will be a wrong answer," he said. The students pressed him and he eventually relented: "Systematic oppression is because you don't believe that you have the equal opportunity for success."
The protesters erupted in disbelief. The words "you don't believe" stung. "Did you just blame us for systematic oppression?" one of them asked, as Wolfe walked away.
A day later, the student athletes announced their strike.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...rike-to-demand-ouster-of-university-president
November 9, 2015
University of Missouri System president Tim Wolfe abruptly announced his resignation Monday morning amid strong criticism of his leadership in handling issues of race.
Wolfe's resignation comes after members of the Mizzou football team said Saturday night they would not participate in any football-related activities until Wolfe was removed or resigned. The team members' action was in support of a student holding a hunger strike to protest Wolfe's leadership on racial issues.
The football players said that they were standing in solidarity with the Concerned Student 1950 movement, which has for months now called on the university to seriously address systemic racism on campus.
In October, black students staged a protest along the homecoming parade route. They formed a chain in front of the president's car chanting, "It's our duty to fight for our freedom!"
Wolfe said nothing to the students and when police removed the students from the street, the crowd erupted in applause. Some of the protesters cried.
http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post...-resigns-university-missouri-system-president
Tim Wolfe was confronted by a group of students outside a fundraiser in Kansas City. They asked him what he thought systematic oppression was.
"I will give you an answer and I'm sure it will be a wrong answer," he said. The students pressed him and he eventually relented: "Systematic oppression is because you don't believe that you have the equal opportunity for success."
The protesters erupted in disbelief. The words "you don't believe" stung. "Did you just blame us for systematic oppression?" one of them asked, as Wolfe walked away.
A day later, the student athletes announced their strike.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...rike-to-demand-ouster-of-university-president
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"He's bleeding like a hog". That is what one officer says about Lambert as he is being driven away from the ER after being tasered multiple times while in restraints both on the ground and in the back of the police car.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/driven-hospital-virginia-man-tased-shackled-and-dies-police-custody
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/driven-hospital-virginia-man-tased-shackled-and-dies-police-custody
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I concur. Would you care for some assistance getting there, or should I just ring up animal control to escort you there?
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"... it appears to suggest that a federal assignment is a get-out-of-jail-free card for any officer who believes he performed reasonably, whatever the result."
Whatever you believe about Kleinert – and prior to this episode, he had a good reputation as an officer – it seems simply indefensible that an officer should essentially execute a person for running away, hardly a crime that merits the death penalty. That Kleinert should escape culpability as a federal officer should not only alarm all Austinites, who like to presume we're all equal before the law. It should also worry federal authorities, who accept responsibility for police officers who increasingly work in concert with them, on various "task forces." Instead, they're likely to take comfort from the court's decision, because if Kleinert isn't accountable for his actions, neither are they.
http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2015-11-06/point-austin-accountable-to-no-one/
Quote of the Week
November 6, 2015
"I believe the decision is an injustice of grave proportion."
- Vincent Harding
“The forensic evidence shows that Larry was on his hands and knees and the gun was at the back of his neck. Execution style.”
He was unarmed.
Whatever you believe about Kleinert – and prior to this episode, he had a good reputation as an officer – it seems simply indefensible that an officer should essentially execute a person for running away, hardly a crime that merits the death penalty. That Kleinert should escape culpability as a federal officer should not only alarm all Austinites, who like to presume we're all equal before the law. It should also worry federal authorities, who accept responsibility for police officers who increasingly work in concert with them, on various "task forces." Instead, they're likely to take comfort from the court's decision, because if Kleinert isn't accountable for his actions, neither are they.
http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2015-11-06/point-austin-accountable-to-no-one/
Quote of the Week
November 6, 2015
"I believe the decision is an injustice of grave proportion."
- Vincent Harding
“The forensic evidence shows that Larry was on his hands and knees and the gun was at the back of his neck. Execution style.”
He was unarmed.
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They do not want rape to ruin their university's image. They do not want racism to ruin their university's image. But, they do not want to do anything about rape or racism.
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Ferguson, MO
February 3, 2016
"...last week, the city released the proposal for extensive reforms — including new use-of-force policies for police, hours of additional training for officers, body camera requirements and a plan for community policing."
"...the agreement would cost $1.5 million a year."
"...additional hearing on the agreement is scheduled for Saturday at the Ferguson Community Center, which can accommodate a significantly larger crowd. The council will vote on the agreement next Tuesday."
Jared L. Hasten, one of the attorneys from a Chicago law firm hired to negotiate with the DOJ, said that if city leaders did not sign the agreement, the DOJ would sue Ferguson.
Some residents said the city should avoid the cost of litigation, and that if police could not abide by the Constitution, they should consider a different line of work.
Saint Louis Post - Dispatch
For a city that wanted to learn what residents thought, Ferguson left many of them out in the cold.
People began arriving an hour early on Tuesday for the first public hearing on a proposed agreement with the U.S. Justice Department, which could cost the city $1.5 million a year.
A half hour later, dozens stood on the ramp leading into City Council chambers — its capacity: 120 people.
Ten minutes before the doors opened, the line twisted for several yards into the parking lot.
Who was left out of the discussion ?
Meeting were held in places that had a very small capacity.
Ferguson Mayor, James Knowles III ?
Knowles brought up another problem with the decree: It only applies to Ferguson – not any other St. Louis County city that’s had well-established policing issues.
“This is a countywide problem,” Knowles said. “And it seems like magically, if they make Ferguson better, everyone else is going to start behaving themselves? There’s something inside of me that tells me that’s not going to happen.”
The city will hold two more public forums: one on Saturday and one next Tuesday. If the Ferguson City Council votes to accept the consent decree, it will then go to a federal judge.
http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post...ed-first-public-forum-proposed-consent-decree
Has anything changed for Ferguson ?
Emily Davis
Emily Davis is part of the Ferguson Collaborative, a group of people who live, work and pray in the beleaguered (Ferguson) St. Louis County municipality
“I am calling on all of council to put an end to this mess, to stand up against prejudice and hatred and emphatically appoint the candidate the majority of council endorsed last week,” Emily Davis said.
"We believe the DOJ has listened to our concerns, and we asked in our letter that the city partner with the department in requesting a fairness hearing with public testimony."
"The city, however, replied that it prefers a public comment period on any proposed decree before the city signs off and before the proposed decree is filed with the court. That proposal is not responsive to our concerns."
"We are skeptical that the city of Ferguson’s suggested comment period would meet the standards for community input that are crucial for success. Ferguson has repeatedly failed to engage the citizens in a meaningful way, or to be accountable to the voices of black, and working-class people. This is why the Ferguson Collaborative undertook a survey of almost 400 respondents last summer to hear from the community and share those viewpoints."
"The city’s Dec. 4 response letter itself is evidence that city officials did not hear our concerns and that they are still resisting change. They call, for example, for community education on the cost of a monitor, but fail to mention the costs of continued litigation, the costs of settlements for unconstitutional policing or the costs to residents who lose their constitutional rights."
http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinio...cle_c45ec75f-6747-5083-a90d-66027a50342b.html
February 3, 2016
"...last week, the city released the proposal for extensive reforms — including new use-of-force policies for police, hours of additional training for officers, body camera requirements and a plan for community policing."
"...the agreement would cost $1.5 million a year."
"...additional hearing on the agreement is scheduled for Saturday at the Ferguson Community Center, which can accommodate a significantly larger crowd. The council will vote on the agreement next Tuesday."
Jared L. Hasten, one of the attorneys from a Chicago law firm hired to negotiate with the DOJ, said that if city leaders did not sign the agreement, the DOJ would sue Ferguson.
Some residents said the city should avoid the cost of litigation, and that if police could not abide by the Constitution, they should consider a different line of work.
Saint Louis Post - Dispatch
For a city that wanted to learn what residents thought, Ferguson left many of them out in the cold.
People began arriving an hour early on Tuesday for the first public hearing on a proposed agreement with the U.S. Justice Department, which could cost the city $1.5 million a year.
A half hour later, dozens stood on the ramp leading into City Council chambers — its capacity: 120 people.
Ten minutes before the doors opened, the line twisted for several yards into the parking lot.
Who was left out of the discussion ?
Meeting were held in places that had a very small capacity.
Ferguson Mayor, James Knowles III ?
Knowles brought up another problem with the decree: It only applies to Ferguson – not any other St. Louis County city that’s had well-established policing issues.
“This is a countywide problem,” Knowles said. “And it seems like magically, if they make Ferguson better, everyone else is going to start behaving themselves? There’s something inside of me that tells me that’s not going to happen.”
The city will hold two more public forums: one on Saturday and one next Tuesday. If the Ferguson City Council votes to accept the consent decree, it will then go to a federal judge.
http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post...ed-first-public-forum-proposed-consent-decree
Has anything changed for Ferguson ?
Emily Davis
Emily Davis is part of the Ferguson Collaborative, a group of people who live, work and pray in the beleaguered (Ferguson) St. Louis County municipality
“I am calling on all of council to put an end to this mess, to stand up against prejudice and hatred and emphatically appoint the candidate the majority of council endorsed last week,” Emily Davis said.
"We believe the DOJ has listened to our concerns, and we asked in our letter that the city partner with the department in requesting a fairness hearing with public testimony."
"The city, however, replied that it prefers a public comment period on any proposed decree before the city signs off and before the proposed decree is filed with the court. That proposal is not responsive to our concerns."
"We are skeptical that the city of Ferguson’s suggested comment period would meet the standards for community input that are crucial for success. Ferguson has repeatedly failed to engage the citizens in a meaningful way, or to be accountable to the voices of black, and working-class people. This is why the Ferguson Collaborative undertook a survey of almost 400 respondents last summer to hear from the community and share those viewpoints."
"The city’s Dec. 4 response letter itself is evidence that city officials did not hear our concerns and that they are still resisting change. They call, for example, for community education on the cost of a monitor, but fail to mention the costs of continued litigation, the costs of settlements for unconstitutional policing or the costs to residents who lose their constitutional rights."
http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinio...cle_c45ec75f-6747-5083-a90d-66027a50342b.html
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Donald Trump exploits anything with a recognizable name, for attention.
May 19, 2016
Donald Trump has dissed Ferguson again.
He told a reporter for the New York Times magazine that Ferguson, along with Oakland, Calif., is one of the most dangerous cities in not just America, but the world.
This isn’t the first time the presumptive Republican presidential nominee has mentioned Ferguson negatively. Trump sparked an Internet explosion last August when he said that cities like St. Louis and Ferguson had problems with gangs of illegal immigrants.
(Of course, Trump lied, as usual. There are not groups of illegal immigrants, forming gangs in Fergoson, or Saint Louis.)
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_e227cf57-6f54-59d5-8d2a-b610144b1925.html
In April, Stephanie Karr and other private lawyers serving as Ferguson’s prosecutors — from the law firm Curtis, Heinz, Garrett and O’Keefe — billed Ferguson for $11,251, bringing the total amount of their invoices to more than $40,000 this year. Their bills for all of 2015 were about $60,000 and $30,000 in 2014.
The city is in the process of replacing Karr as prosecutor. She will retain the position of city attorney. City officials have said having the same person in both roles could be a conflict of interest.
May 19, 2016
After she and a colleague suffered a recent series of losses in cases linked to the 2014 protests over Michael Brown’s death, Ferguson Prosecutor Stephanie Karr on Wednesday dismissed another defendant’s charge about 40 minutes prior to trial.
Karr argued that the defendant had “clearly” committed the violation. However, she was declining to prosecute “for reasons wholly unrelated to the merits of the case.”
Karr did not elaborate.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/article_65946f32-62e3-5251-b22b-31bd6b0a8f58.html
The defendant, Elizabeth Peinado, an employee of St. Louis Alderman Antonio French’s North Campus education center, was accused of disregarding orders to leave an area near the Ferguson Police Department, after protesters had clashed with police on Aug. 14, 2014.
At he time, Peinado was waiting for French to be released from jail, along with Meghan Flannery, another North Campus employee, and Michael Powers, legislative director for St. Louis Aldermanic President Lewis Reed.
All three were arrested and charged with failure to comply, a charge that the U.S. Department of Justice has said Ferguson Police often misuse.
The defendants maintained that the officers’ orders were directed at a group of protesters farther down the street.
May 19, 2016
Donald Trump has dissed Ferguson again.
He told a reporter for the New York Times magazine that Ferguson, along with Oakland, Calif., is one of the most dangerous cities in not just America, but the world.
This isn’t the first time the presumptive Republican presidential nominee has mentioned Ferguson negatively. Trump sparked an Internet explosion last August when he said that cities like St. Louis and Ferguson had problems with gangs of illegal immigrants.
(Of course, Trump lied, as usual. There are not groups of illegal immigrants, forming gangs in Fergoson, or Saint Louis.)
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_e227cf57-6f54-59d5-8d2a-b610144b1925.html
In April, Stephanie Karr and other private lawyers serving as Ferguson’s prosecutors — from the law firm Curtis, Heinz, Garrett and O’Keefe — billed Ferguson for $11,251, bringing the total amount of their invoices to more than $40,000 this year. Their bills for all of 2015 were about $60,000 and $30,000 in 2014.
The city is in the process of replacing Karr as prosecutor. She will retain the position of city attorney. City officials have said having the same person in both roles could be a conflict of interest.
May 19, 2016
After she and a colleague suffered a recent series of losses in cases linked to the 2014 protests over Michael Brown’s death, Ferguson Prosecutor Stephanie Karr on Wednesday dismissed another defendant’s charge about 40 minutes prior to trial.
Karr argued that the defendant had “clearly” committed the violation. However, she was declining to prosecute “for reasons wholly unrelated to the merits of the case.”
Karr did not elaborate.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/article_65946f32-62e3-5251-b22b-31bd6b0a8f58.html
The defendant, Elizabeth Peinado, an employee of St. Louis Alderman Antonio French’s North Campus education center, was accused of disregarding orders to leave an area near the Ferguson Police Department, after protesters had clashed with police on Aug. 14, 2014.
At he time, Peinado was waiting for French to be released from jail, along with Meghan Flannery, another North Campus employee, and Michael Powers, legislative director for St. Louis Aldermanic President Lewis Reed.
All three were arrested and charged with failure to comply, a charge that the U.S. Department of Justice has said Ferguson Police often misuse.
The defendants maintained that the officers’ orders were directed at a group of protesters farther down the street.
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Does anybody really give a shit?
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St. Louis County authorities filed charges against The Huffington Post’s Ryan Reilly one year after his August 2014 arrest. Now they have finally dropped the unlawful charges.
May 19, 2016
St. Louis County authorities finally agreed on Thursday to drop charges they filed against Washington Post reporter Wesley Lowery and me in connection with our unlawful arrests in Ferguson on Aug. 13, 2014.
In exchange, we’ve agreed not to sue the Missouri county for the illegal conduct of its police officers.
The ordinance violation charges that had been pending against us in St. Louis County Municipal Court since August 2015 — one for “trespassing” in a McDonald’s where we were customers and the other for “interference” with the duties of the police officers who forcefully took us into custody — should never have been brought.
The facts were on our side. The manager of the McDonald’s never asked us to leave (let alone be arrested) and welcomed us back to the restaurant on many occasions. The evidence made clear what had happened: Stressed-out officers who didn’t want their actions recorded had decided to lash out at a couple of reporters.
No charges were warranted. But prosecutors endorsed the ridiculous theory — which the police pushed — that two journalists recording the actions of police officers in a fast food restaurant “directly contributed” to the civil unrest in Ferguson in August 2014.
Two cops involved in my arrest, former Ferguson officer Justin Cosma and St. Louis County Sgt. Michael McCann.
Sgt. McCann slammed my head on the door while I was in handcuffs and then lied about doing so in the internal investigation of his conduct.
(That is a simplification. The arrest was unreasonable, violent and abusive. They were pushed, shoved, and violently thrown around the restaurant. The two policemen were hostile, and they intended to create stress, fear and pain. They intended to discourage anyone from outside of their "turf" to expose the truth. They liked working in a system that operated a scam in a dark corner. Light was not welcome.
Thanks to that system, the journalist had his life changed from a normal life to a life of high stress and fear. It changed his point of view. He gets it now. Ferguson's system is that horrible. If he was a minority citizen, with no money, no influence, and no extraordinary resources, it could have ended badly for him. Just like someone who lives in Ferguson.)
St. Louis County has fought us at every turn, even successfully fighting our motion for a joint trial. Officials in St. Louis County Municipal Court even accidentally issued warrants for our arrest.
Municipal Court Judge Craig Concannon — appointed after donating more than $20,000 to the reelection campaign of St. Louis County Executive Steve Stenger — consistently sided with County Counselor Peter Krane, another Stenger appointee.
It’s only because Wesley and I have the resources of large companies at our disposal that it hasn’t come with a huge personal monetary cost.
gsgs comment-
Legal rights of the press, and the legal rights of citizens, do not seem to mean much.
These journalist had the money, influence, and network of the Huffington Post, the Washington Post and AOL in their favor.
Because of the legitimacy and fame of the news outlets, these two journalists got actionable recognition, and national coverage.
"Obama also commented on the Wednesday arrests of two reporters, one from The Huffington Post and one from The Washington Post."
“Here in the United States of America, police should not be bullying or arresting journalists who are just trying to do their jobs and report to the American people on what they see on the ground,” he said. “We all need to hold ourselves to a high standard, particular those of us in positions of authority.”
The law was twisted in order to trap journalists and protesters.
The system in place punished the journalists and protesters for exercising their legal rights.
The system was rigged in order to protect county officials from lawsuits.
The officials conspired to create a system through legal means, that would aid them in having the advantage.
Ferguson is iin all purposes a prison, without bars and walls.
Where was the Department of Justice, while this farce was perpetuated ?
May 12, 2016
Police Chief Delrish Moss told the New York Times he wants to overhaul the department. His first goal is to diversify the police force to be more reflective of Ferguson's citizens. Currently, Moss said the department only has 54 police officers of color, but he wants to change that.
"There won't be a magic pill, when I suddenly go from this amount of African-Americans, this amount of women or this amount of whatever to this," he told the New York Times. "But what I'll be looking at is how we do things with attrition, and other things that naturally occur, that cause officers not to be in the department anymore."
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/fergusons-new-police-chief-slams-crooked-cops-first-speech
May 19, 2016
St. Louis County authorities finally agreed on Thursday to drop charges they filed against Washington Post reporter Wesley Lowery and me in connection with our unlawful arrests in Ferguson on Aug. 13, 2014.
In exchange, we’ve agreed not to sue the Missouri county for the illegal conduct of its police officers.
The ordinance violation charges that had been pending against us in St. Louis County Municipal Court since August 2015 — one for “trespassing” in a McDonald’s where we were customers and the other for “interference” with the duties of the police officers who forcefully took us into custody — should never have been brought.
The facts were on our side. The manager of the McDonald’s never asked us to leave (let alone be arrested) and welcomed us back to the restaurant on many occasions. The evidence made clear what had happened: Stressed-out officers who didn’t want their actions recorded had decided to lash out at a couple of reporters.
No charges were warranted. But prosecutors endorsed the ridiculous theory — which the police pushed — that two journalists recording the actions of police officers in a fast food restaurant “directly contributed” to the civil unrest in Ferguson in August 2014.
Two cops involved in my arrest, former Ferguson officer Justin Cosma and St. Louis County Sgt. Michael McCann.
Sgt. McCann slammed my head on the door while I was in handcuffs and then lied about doing so in the internal investigation of his conduct.
(That is a simplification. The arrest was unreasonable, violent and abusive. They were pushed, shoved, and violently thrown around the restaurant. The two policemen were hostile, and they intended to create stress, fear and pain. They intended to discourage anyone from outside of their "turf" to expose the truth. They liked working in a system that operated a scam in a dark corner. Light was not welcome.
Thanks to that system, the journalist had his life changed from a normal life to a life of high stress and fear. It changed his point of view. He gets it now. Ferguson's system is that horrible. If he was a minority citizen, with no money, no influence, and no extraordinary resources, it could have ended badly for him. Just like someone who lives in Ferguson.)
St. Louis County has fought us at every turn, even successfully fighting our motion for a joint trial. Officials in St. Louis County Municipal Court even accidentally issued warrants for our arrest.
Municipal Court Judge Craig Concannon — appointed after donating more than $20,000 to the reelection campaign of St. Louis County Executive Steve Stenger — consistently sided with County Counselor Peter Krane, another Stenger appointee.
It’s only because Wesley and I have the resources of large companies at our disposal that it hasn’t come with a huge personal monetary cost.
gsgs comment-
Legal rights of the press, and the legal rights of citizens, do not seem to mean much.
These journalist had the money, influence, and network of the Huffington Post, the Washington Post and AOL in their favor.
Because of the legitimacy and fame of the news outlets, these two journalists got actionable recognition, and national coverage.
"Obama also commented on the Wednesday arrests of two reporters, one from The Huffington Post and one from The Washington Post."
“Here in the United States of America, police should not be bullying or arresting journalists who are just trying to do their jobs and report to the American people on what they see on the ground,” he said. “We all need to hold ourselves to a high standard, particular those of us in positions of authority.”
The law was twisted in order to trap journalists and protesters.
The system in place punished the journalists and protesters for exercising their legal rights.
The system was rigged in order to protect county officials from lawsuits.
The officials conspired to create a system through legal means, that would aid them in having the advantage.
Ferguson is iin all purposes a prison, without bars and walls.
Where was the Department of Justice, while this farce was perpetuated ?
May 12, 2016
Police Chief Delrish Moss told the New York Times he wants to overhaul the department. His first goal is to diversify the police force to be more reflective of Ferguson's citizens. Currently, Moss said the department only has 54 police officers of color, but he wants to change that.
"There won't be a magic pill, when I suddenly go from this amount of African-Americans, this amount of women or this amount of whatever to this," he told the New York Times. "But what I'll be looking at is how we do things with attrition, and other things that naturally occur, that cause officers not to be in the department anymore."
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/fergusons-new-police-chief-slams-crooked-cops-first-speech
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June 25, 2016
A judge will allow lawyers representing Ferguson to inspect the juvenile records of Michael Brown as part of their defense against a wrongful death lawsuit filed by Brown’s family.
St. Louis County Circuit Judge Thea A. Sherry made the ruling Thursday, and also issued an order outlining how the records will be made available.
Brown’s parents, Michael Brown Sr. and Lezley McSpadden, filed a response in opposition to the motion. The “request to inspect the juvenile records of Michael Brown Jr. flies in the face of all policy and legislative intent to protect juvenile records,” it said.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_21d1a31b-5d46-5fa0-bc96-178284ca20ed.html
A judge will allow lawyers representing Ferguson to inspect the juvenile records of Michael Brown as part of their defense against a wrongful death lawsuit filed by Brown’s family.
St. Louis County Circuit Judge Thea A. Sherry made the ruling Thursday, and also issued an order outlining how the records will be made available.
Brown’s parents, Michael Brown Sr. and Lezley McSpadden, filed a response in opposition to the motion. The “request to inspect the juvenile records of Michael Brown Jr. flies in the face of all policy and legislative intent to protect juvenile records,” it said.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_21d1a31b-5d46-5fa0-bc96-178284ca20ed.html
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Is this bad?
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No, it's good. I's always good for the truth to come out.
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When the truth comes out, they riot....go figure
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Maybe not in this specific instance. I don't know, but I suspect Brown had an extensive juvenile record for things like strong-army robbery and car-jacking and similar crimes. I believe it is rare for somebody to go from All-American boy to hoodlum. When the facts do become known, people will probably stop thinking otherwise.
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Yeeeeaaaah..."they" riot...
...kinda like that Kristallnacht "they" had over them pumpkins in Nu Hamp.
Dot is dot...go figure!
"I suspect"
"like strong-army robbery and car-jacking and similar crimes"
Why so gleefully and lazily stereotypical in your reaching, desperately projecting desire for pinning crimes that aren't empirically evidenced? Why can't this young college-bound American male be supposed for insider trading, racketeering, ponzi-scheming or cannibalism like other historically crime-driven American males?
Speaking of "All-American" boys, surprised you ain't crying over the great basic beige hope Johnny Manziel, the way he flamed out. And his pops wants that motherfucker to go to jail.
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Yeeeeaaaah..."they" riot...
...kinda like that Kristallnacht "they" had over them pumpkins in Nu Hamp.
Dot is dot...go figure!
"I suspect"
"like strong-army robbery and car-jacking and similar crimes"
Why so gleefully and lazily stereotypical in your reaching, desperately projecting desire for pinning crimes that aren't empirically evidenced? Why can't this young college-bound American male be supposed for insider trading, racketeering, ponzi-scheming or cannibalism like other historically crime-driven American males?
Speaking of "All-American" boys, surprised you ain't crying over the great basic beige hope Johnny Manziel, the way he flamed out. And his pops wants that motherfucker to go to jail.
I never got on the Manziel bandwagon.......I don't know, to me, there is a way to create change in this country, and rioting isn't one of them.
By the way, it ain't nothing like Kristallnacht, I just love when they compare the plight of afro americans to the Jews of Germany.....
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But if the people who have the most generational privilege, wealth and control on this sphere whose movements affects everyone else's existence with those factors were truly altruistic to combatting the strife that comes with social inequities, then only one protest and platform of solutions to change everything for the better would've been needed and threads like this wouldn't exist in the here and now.
That even goes for your Jewish ancestors in Germany. But see, that still happened because reasons. So don't glibly dismiss other people's struggles and their ways of having to be heard to enact change through solutions when nobody cared to listen to them.
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slaves will riot when they don't get their welfare
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Ferguson neverending, indeed.
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