EgyptAir flight 804 disappears.

On a more serious note:

That idea would have seemed straight-jacket - material to me 6 months ago, but as an outsider and from what I read,
- I'm starting to think that those who think that Trump might be a better option than the other candidates might not be as crazy after all.

Sounds like most of the other candidates don't have in their mind the interest of the little guy after all, and they're just as dangerous. And I'm not talking only about the US; their foreign policies too - which means 'the rest of us'.
At a superficial glance, at least Trump doesn't appear to be bent on destroying the middle class and bringing the US into a communist / collectivistic - totallitarian state governed by the 1%.
 
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“If you analyse the situation properly, the possibility of having a different action or having a terror attack, is higher than the possibility of having a technical fault,” said Egypt’s Aviation Minister Sherif Fathi.

The head of the Russian secret service, the FSB, agrees with him.

The plane fell off the radar when it entered Egyptian airspace. Flight trackers revealed the plane had banked severely and lost height at around the time radar contact was lost. One merchant vessel reported seeing a bright explosion in the sky. A frigate of the Greek navy is investigating this claim."

http://www.euronews.com/2016/05/19/terrorism-likely-cause-of-air-crash-in-egypt-which-kills-66/
 
They saw it from the air. Unfortunately the seas around the Greek Islands are littered with discarded lifejackets and boat wreckage from past refugees taking the sea route from Turkey.

Last year the island of Lesbos was removing many TONS of lifejackets from the beaches.

Part of several acres of discarded lifejackets:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/02/01/13/30C7A35800000578-3426430-image-a-38_1454331863041.jpg
oh wow, that's an iconic picture.

have they said how long before a definitive yes or no can be expected, ogg?
 
oh wow, that's an iconic picture.

have they said how long before a definitive yes or no can be expected, ogg?

No. The last statement by the Greeks was 1745 - that's three hours ago for me.

Even if they find more wreckage, confirming it was from that flight could take days.
 
On a more serious note:

That idea would have seemed straight-jacket - material to me 6 months ago, but as an outsider and from what I read,
- I'm starting to think that those who think that Trump might be a better option than the other candidates might not be as crazy after all.

Sounds like most of the other candidates don't have in their mind the interest of the little guy after all, and they're just as dangerous. And I'm not talking only about the US; their foreign policies too - which means 'the rest of us'.
At a superficial glance, at least Trump doesn't appear to be bent on destroying the middle class and bringing the US into a communist / collectivistic - totallitarian state governed by the 1%.

No, he'd skip all the benefits that come with a communist/collectivistic state and just go straight to totalitarian ruled by the 1%. That's so much better.
 
Paris.....


a better question

WHY IS THE US BRINGING MOAR IN?
 
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