Transgendereism

[Lancecastor]

You may as well stop with the horse shit links and simply say, "This is what I believe in my heart and I don't care what anyone who disagrees has to say on the topic." That is at least respectable.

Butters, stop the horse shit?

Hold your breath!

 

[butters]

A site called "Transadvocate" exists to advocate for the normalization of transgenders and nothing more.

Would you read "Christian advocate" to determine the age of the planet?


_______ Advocate will never give proper weight to opposing viewpoints/evidence. Nor should they, which is why use the term Advocate.

Note they offer no evidence, and instead tear down the opposition. Their job is to win the argument, by any means neccessary. Fair enough, given the name Advocate. That isn't good enough to sway a person who demands evidence aka me.

You may as well stop with the horse shit links and simply say, "This is what I believe in my heart and I don't care what anyone who disagrees has to say on the topic." That is at least respectable.

that particular post wasn't intended for your specific consumption with regards to childhood assignment intervention. it was for everyone capable of reading and evaluating how a doctor's report into transgenderism since the 1980's has been misquoted, mis-used, misinterpreted and deliberately cherry-picked to promote a fallacy BUT it's the doctor's OWN words - the original author of the report - stating these facts where she is being interviewed by Transadvocate. It is not the assumption, implied facts, fuzzy statements open to misinterpretation, nor leading statements in support of its own agenda by Transadvocate. The doctor is asked reasonable and clear questions to which she responds in equally an clear fashion and her own summarising statements as I quoted them.

I believe in evidence-based facts and attempts by the scientific community to develop treatments for the benefit of humanity, whilst understanding there will always be problems which require adjustments and new development to surmount.

 

[Disgustipated]

"This is what I believe in my heart and I don't care what anyone who disagrees has to say on the topic."

You realize that's exactly what you do except you provide links and anecdotes from wonky sources at best.

 

[Brollyanna]

Found that gay gene yet so that we can treat it or kill it in the womb?

Are you advocating turning women's wombs into caves of death? EYEEEEEER!!! This one's yours!

 

[Aglaopheme]

Another cite you can gleefully overlook.

Whereas, Our American Medical Association opposes discrimination on the basis of gender identity; and

Whereas, Gender Identity Disorder (GID) is a serious medical condition recognized as such in both the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (4th Ed., Text Revision) (DSM-IV-TR) and the International Classification of Diseases (10th Revision) , and is characterized in the DSM-IV-TR as a persistent discomfort with one’s assigned sex and with one’s primary and secondary sex characteristics, which causes intense emotional pain and suffering ; and

Whereas, GID, if left untreated, can result in clinically significant psychological distress, dysfunction, debilitating depression and, for some people without access to appropriate medical care and treatment, suicidality and death ; and

Whereas, The World Professional Association For Transgender Health, Inc. (“WPATH”) is the leading international, interdisciplinary professional organization devoted to the understanding and treatment of gender identity disorders , and has established internationally accepted Standards of Care for providing medical treatment for people with GID, including mental health care, hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery, which are designed to promote the health and welfare of persons with GID and are recognized within the medical community to be the standard of care for treating people with GID; and

Whereas, An established body of medical research demonstrates the effectiveness and medical necessity of mental health care, hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery as forms of therapeutic treatment for many people diagnosed with GID; and

Whereas, Health experts in GID, including WPATH, have rejected the myth that such treatments are “cosmetic” or “experimental” and have recognized that these treatments can provide safe and effective treatment for a serious health condition ; and

Whereas, Physicians treating persons with GID must be able to provide the correct treatment necessary for a patient in order to achieve genuine and lasting comfort with his or her gender, based on the person’s individual needs and medical history ; and

Whereas, Our AMA opposes limitations placed on patient care by third-party payers when such care is based upon sound scientific evidence and sound medical opinion , ; and

Whereas, Many health insurance plans categorically exclude coverage of mental health, medical, and surgical treatments for GID, even though many of these same treatments, such as psychotherapy, hormone therapy, breast augmentation and removal, hysterectomy, oophorectomy, orchiectomy, and salpingectomy, are often covered for other medical conditions; and

Whereas, The denial of these otherwise covered benefits for patients suffering from GID represents discrimination based solely on a patient’s gender identity; and

Whereas, Delaying treatment for GID can cause and/or aggravate additional serious and expensive health problems, such as stress-related physical illnesses, depression, and substance abuse problems, which further endanger patients’ health and strain the health care system; therefore be it

RESOLVED, That our American Medical Association support public and private health insurance coverage for treatment of gender identity disorder (New HOD Policy); and be it further

RESOLVED, That our AMA oppose categorical exclusions of coverage for treatment of gender identity disorder when prescribed by a physician. (Directive to Take Action)

 

[Lancecastor]

The horse has already left the barn on all this GBLTQ shit, so people can tilt at windmills all they like.

They're queer, they're here, get used to it.

I would be more interested in talking about Who's Next?

Which miniscule group of wierdos will be the next poster children for Inclusion?

(Poor people? Probably not....they have to be shocking.)

 

[Pookie]

Polygamy.

 

[Emerson40]

Is Rob -the delusional dumbfuck- just being his usual self, or is he trying to be "funny, vibrant and exciting"?

I'm out of here anyway.

http://i.imgur.com/YYQmiUw.gif

See you soon you big raccoon!

You're probably very busy, unmasking alts and mindlessly agreeing with gump in another thread somewhere.

Can't wait for more of your intelligent and rational thread contributions!

 

[Lancecastor]

Polygamy.

Where's Mit Romney when you really need him?

 

[hashtag45]

See you soon you big raccoon!

You're probably very busy, unmasking alts and mindlessly agreeing with gump in another thread somewhere.

Can't wait for more of your intelligent and rational thread contributions!​

Oh poor needle-dick, he can't let go of me and still keeps following me around.

Is that the only way in which you can polish your cute wee-wee nowadays? Cuz no woman wants to sleep with you any longer IRL ?​

 

[Ishmael]

One more time. Believing that you are something that you demonstrably and scientifically are not IS a mental disorder. It demands treatment of the individual living in a fantasy, not concessions on the part of those that don't live in a fantasy.

Ishmael

 

[Emerson40]

Oh poor needle-dick, he can't let go of me and still keeps following me around.

Is that the only way in which you can polish your cute wee-wee nowadays? Cuz no woman wants to sleep with you any longer IRL ?

http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9p6yuNNXz1qa39umo1_500.jpg

 

[Pookie]

One more time. Believing that you are something that you demonstrably and scientifically are not IS a mental disorder. It demands treatment of the individual living in a fantasy, not concessions on the part of those that don't live in a fantasy.

Ishmael

Well said, Ish.

You can all take that fact to the patent office. *nods*

 

[RobDownSouth]

One more time. Believing that you are something that you demonstrably and scientifically are not IS a mental disorder. It demands treatment of the individual living in a fantasy, not concessions on the part of those that don't live in a fantasy.

Ishmael

The DSM5, the generally accepted medical standard for medical classification, says otherwise. LINK They've revised gender identity issues under the classification of dysphoria, as opposed to disorder.

Those pesky facts and their well-know librul bias!!

 

[Emerson40]

One more time.

http://66.media.tumblr.com/17c075bd7d0517e80fcea87df1e227c7/tumblr_o6danrjYPv1qep5zro1_500.jpg

 

[Lancecastor]

The mental illness thing doesn't matter anyway...they stopped locking up and torturing crazy people decades ago.

Trannies need to be Terrorists now, Ish.

 

[Pookie]

The mental illness thing doesn't matter anyway...they stopped locking up and torturing crazy people decades ago.

Trannies need to be Terrorists now, Ish.

Or Socialists. Either works, I suppose.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

The horse has already left the barn on all this GBLTQ shit, so people can tilt at windmills all they like.

They're queer, they're here, get used to it.

I would be more interested in talking about Who's Next?

Which miniscule group of wierdos will be the next poster children for Inclusion?

(Poor people? Probably not....they have to be shocking.)

For me it was a toss up between polygamy and pedophile, but given the heavy promotion that children are able to make these decisions as early as 5, it has to be pedophilia. After all, if you can decide to remove genitals, or take hormones to make them obsolete, you can decide to fuck.we are giving sexual agency to children after all, so that must extend to penetration. I have also seen a great number of sympathy for pedos articles in places like The Atlantic, Vice, and Salon.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

The DSM5 change means insurance companies wont pay for your unhappy feelings when folks laugh at you for being a circus freak. Dysphoria means UNHAPPY CAMPER, and unhappy campers swamp mental health. Its like being really ugly.

 

[hashtag45]

What did you mean by that, LadyF?
Were you joking?

 

[Emerson40]

What ???

What did you mean by that, LadyF?
Were you joking?

http://67.media.tumblr.com/1c22c49497bff2859680057742d53cb9/tumblr_mtsprzG7oU1rjjeobo1_500.jpg
http://67.media.tumblr.com/7fac2a726f920c3d6729e7bfc4f8f6ef/tumblr_mtsprzG7oU1rjjeobo2_500.jpg

I know.

But at least they make you laugh.

 

[Pookie]

Where's Mit Romney when you really need him?

I'm not sure even the Republicans have ever said that out loud.

 

[Lancecastor]

I'm not sure even the Republicans have ever said that out loud.

He should have run on a Big Love platform.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

What did you mean by that, LadyF?
Were you joking?

I am deadly serious. I believe the trans-children push is meant to lead to acceptance of pedophilia. That we aren't sticking to discussing adults is no accident. And I started reading "just because he is a pedophile doesn't mean he is a bad person" think pieces in the media 2 years ago. Those think pieces prime the public. I predicted the transmania 4-5 years ago (and posted about it on Lit 2 years ago) based on the same observations.

And everyone on this thread defending the Trans agenda will be arguing about how pedophiles aren't bad, pro "cross generational love" etc in a few years. Bookmark this. People are easily manipulated, especially when you present getting on board with an agenda as Virtuous.

Eta: I myself have been manipulated on social issues too. But now I see what they did there.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

The DSM5, the generally accepted medical standard for medical classification, says otherwise. LINK They've revised gender identity issues under the classification of dysphoria, as opposed to disorder.

Those pesky facts and their well-know librul bias!!

The DSM5 is for billing purposes. The APA reflects what insurance will and wont pay for. Official diagnoses come and go, usually to end stigma or celebrate some new faux disability or end payments for nonsense.