Another maniac with a gun fires into a crowd.

[ms_ann_thrope]

Hatchets should be outlawed.

 

[Lancecastor]

What are your definitions of "developed nation" and "death cult republic"?

Why do you ask? Are you having trouble understanding the words?

 

[phrodeau]

What does that story have to do with "shooting into a crowd?"



Shooting plastic pellets at police might be "suicide by cop" but it wasn't "shooting into a crowd." In fact, laws against providing the mentally ill with firearms seem to have worked in this case.

He fired pepper spray into the crowd.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Oh, I'm pro gun and obtaining my CCW, so there's no need to make that assumption. I'm opposed to illegal gun ownership, and fully aware that gun control laws don't deter criminals.

Is that why full auto machine guns which were a HUGE problem back in the day were suddenly not a problem after we started regulating them???

Is that why you slow the fuck down when you're speeding and spot a cop?

Or a criminal runs after committing a crime?

Don't get sucked into that RW stupid......laws do change things, 100% fix no, but they do deter.

 

[willlph]

I would prefer you explain it, thanks.


But I doubt it.

https://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#crime

 

[Lancecastor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

 

[Weird Harold]

He fired pepper spray into the crowd.

Pepper spray doesn't come out of a "gun." So where was the "maniac with a gun fires into a crowd" part of this story?

 

[doowdniw]

Why do you ask? Are you having trouble understanding the words?

Why don't you answer?

 

[Lancecastor]

Why don't you answer?

Start here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

 

[BabblingBrooke]

Is that why full auto machine guns which were a HUGE problem back in the day were suddenly not a problem after we started regulating them???

Is that why you slow the fuck down when you're speeding and spot a cop?

Or a criminal runs after committing a crime?

Don't get sucked into that RW stupid......laws do change things, 100% fix no, but they do deter.

Laws deter plenty of people from committing all sorts of offenses. I do think there are legitimate reasons to own guns, and that our law enforcement and military must be armed, and that as long as guns exist, criminals who want them to commit crimes will find a way to get their hands on them. If there's a market, there will be a supplier. Is this getting sucked into RW logic? I think this applies to other outlawed things/acts as well (Prohibition?).

Speaking of that, I came across this earlier today and thought of many arguments I read here and elsewhere:

 

[BotanyBoy]

Laws deter plenty of people from committing all sorts of offenses. I do think there are legitimate reasons to own guns, and that our law enforcement and military must be armed, and that as long as guns exist, criminals who want them to commit crimes will find a way to get their hands on them. If there's a market, there will be a supplier. Is this getting sucked into RW logic? I think this applies to other outlawed things/acts as well (Prohibition?).

I don't think anyone but the loons on the left is talking about prohibition. The gun fans just hear the word "regulate" and consider it the same thing so they can make their hysterical bullshit arguments.

Know why we don't have baby face and capone types mowing entire PD's down with machine guns anymore?

BECAUSE IT'S A FUCKIN' BITCH TO GET THEM!! The ATF and FBI crawl up your pee hole with a microscope before you're allowed to own one. And if you get caught with one without the proper paperwork? You're going to the fuckin' slammer bro!! But you can own them......they aren't prohibited.

Regulation is not prohibition.....asking for people to pass basic background and competency tests by an appropriate licencing agency isn't prohibition.

And "laws don't matter because criminals don't follow them" is a fucking LIE.....if it were gun shows would look like a congo flea market....RPG's...full auto....destructive devices and explosives all over the place for sale to anyone with the money.

Speaking of that, I came across this earlier today and thought of many arguments I read here and elsewhere:

Clever....makes fun of the loonz on both sides.

 

[Not Normal]

There should be a segment on the news, just like Weather, and Sports called "Today's Shootings."

 

[Dogoda]

If you want to understand what it's like to be in law enforcement.....try stepping up to the challenge......go to an academy and make a difference. Hard to judge those who you have little to no clue on their daily lives and what they do.....good or bad.

 

[sweepthefloor]

Another maniac with fire eyes shoots into a crowd.

 

[sweepthefloor]

There should be a segment on the news, just like Weather, and Sports called "Today's Shootings."

The local trauma bay is my news segment.

 

[phrodeau]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/06/shooting-boy-dead-charlotte/71807902/

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — North Carolina authorities are still searching for suspects following a shooting that left a 9-year-old boy dead and three others injured at a residence in southwest Charlotte.

Deputy Chief Jeff Estes of the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department said during a news conference that the shooting happened just after 9 p.m. Saturday while a family celebration was ongoing in the front yard.

The unidentified 9-year-old boy died at a hospital. Two adults and another child suffered non-life-threatening injuries and were treated at the scene.

 

[I_jerk_off_alot]

Pepper spray doesn't come out of a "gun." So where was the "maniac with a gun fires into a crowd" part of this story?

Yes, it does.


http://www.thehomesecuritysuperstore.com/self-defense-pepper-spray-pepper-guns-sub=275

http://www.amazon.com/Mace-Brand-Pepper-Spray-Gun/dp/B004YWKF8C


Also, let's ban knives too.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/06/cops-arrest-brothers-in-knife-attack-against-parents/

A Georgia mother called 911 early Saturday morning and told the dispatcher her sons were trying to kill her and her husband.

Then the line went silent.

When police arrived to Yvonne and Zachary Ervin’s home in Gwinnett County, Ga., at 7:50 a.m., they found the couple seriously injured with stab wounds and the house’s gas line meddled with, according to a report in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Police arrested Christopher Ervin, 22, and Cameron Ervin, 17, on two counts each of aggravated assault in the alleged knife attack against their parents.

Where were the guns? 'Cause we all know you can only kill people with guns right?

 

[phrodeau]

Let's see what's in the newspaper this morning...

Chris Harper-Mercer.

 

[Ishmael]

Are you getting a clue here furry foot? No one cares all that much.

that campus was a liberals dream come true, gun free to the point that even the security guard was unarmed. A "target rich environment."

then there is Baltimore, DC, Detroit, Chicago, and other cities to look at. What are their gun laws? How are they fairing?

I've always been intrigued by those that want to disarm me. Those that accuse me of being 'fearful.' It seems to me that those that want to disarm others are those consumed by fear.

I am, and always have been, aware of the fact that I, and I alone, am responsible, for my own life. I know that the police are there merely to fill out the paper work. And that they might catch my murderer after the fact. They have NO responsibility for your life or well being, none at all. That particular responsibility is yours and yours alone.

Buy a gun, learn to use it responsibly.

Ishmael

 

[Disgustipated]

No one is trying to take your guns. Not a single person on earth. Not even Matt Damon.

 

[phrodeau]

http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2015/10/18/police-say-at-least-2-shot-at-zombiecon

FORT MYERS, Fla. (AP) — A shooting at the annual ZombiCon gathering in Florida has left one person dead and five more injured, causing a chaotic scene that sent throngs of zombie-dressed revelers running through the streets, police said Sunday.

The shooting happened around 11:45 p.m. Saturday, just 15 minutes before the event officially ended. Large crowds were still in the streets and authorities quickly cleared out nearby bars and set up crime scene tape, while others patrolled the area with rifles searching for a suspect.

Fort Myers Police Lt. Victor Medico said Expavious Tyrell Taylor, a 20-year-old who played football at a local junior college, died at the scene, but no other details about his death were released. Four others were taken to the hospital with non-life threatening injuries and one additional victim refused medical attention, authorities said.

Authorities said the suspect or suspects are still at large and did not release any information about a possible motive.

 

[Sean]

Are you getting a clue here furry foot? No one cares all that much.

that campus was a liberals dream come true, gun free to the point that even the security guard was unarmed. A "target rich environment."

Liar.

 

[Que]

No one is trying to take your guns. Not a single person on earth. Not even Matt Damon.

I guess you haven't heard that Hillary, in an effort to run to outflank Bernie's left on guns has said that what Australia did, (registration, ban and buy back) was an "idea worth considering."

 

[Not Normal]

A politician saying something is "worth considering"or "looking into" is just code speak for, I want to move on to the next question, hopefully one that I already have a rehearsed answer to.

 

[Que]

Is that why full auto machine guns which were a HUGE problem back in the day were suddenly not a problem after we started regulating them???

Is that why you slow the fuck down when you're speeding and spot a cop?

Or a criminal runs after committing a crime?

Don't get sucked into that RW stupid......laws do change things, 100% fix no, but they do deter.

You make that comparison a lot and it is not comparable. A criminal opting for a very useful semi auto as opposed the added risk of being caught trafficking a full auto for more bullets and less accuracy, is not the same choice as a criminal deciding to do without ANY gun because of some scheme to allegedly make ALL guns harder to get. Criminals like guns. Cheap, throw down guns that are useful up close and personal. Nothing that could be proposed will change that, or remove their availability.

Criminals in Australia and Mexico can and do get them.

Some laws for some classes of criminals may result in changed behavior. For example get caught with drugs and a gun at the same time and place and get extra time. Maybe they leave it at home and do business with people they trust more. BUt how did that make them or any of us inherently safer? Now he is unarmed if someone happens to want to commit a crime against him, and he had a gun for "in case" not because he was an assaulting, murdering thug.

An assaulting murdering thug has a record, and cannot own possess or transport a firearm of any description. When practical someone else is holding for him. When he has one it is because he is expecting it likely he will use it. Or alternatively he knows there are other assaulting murdering thugs with some reason to assault and or murder him.

Talking about guns without bifurcating the types of crime we are talking about makes no sense.

Making guns hard to get, waiting periods, and that sort of thing reduces the law abiding from having them. Some crimes with guns are committed by a previously law abiding guy with a temper. Giuns make people feel braver and perhaps some crimes of passions would happen less if less people had guns.

That and only that, and maybe suicides are in anyway impacted by gun laws. None of those things are what people that want to restrict guns base their reasons and their scary statistics on.

It also discounts all the times a criminal didn't go marauding in an area where they can bet the residents are armed. The times someone letting a criminal know they were armed made them back down and exit, the times a gun was brandished with that effect, and the small number of times that some thug got himself shot by a citizen.

Even that last case that on a one by one we ll cheer for, the anti-gun nuts include in "senseless gun violence." Some gun violence is awesome. How about that lady with the AK alone with her kids repelling home invaders a while back, Awesome, no?