The Isolated Blurt Thread: I Learned The Truth at XVII

[CyranoJ]

Genuine question: if a white guy wearing apartheid era SA flags on his jacket walks into a famous black church and mows down at least 9 black people, and it isn't racist...what counts as racist?

While actually ranting about supremacist white-victimry myths into the bargain, as some accounts would have it.

 

[DesEsseintes]

Now bring into your quaint little example the bozo who walked into the movie theater and did the exact same thing...

...your "racist" crutch is now gone, yet the true common denominator still exists.

What would that be?

Was the bozo wearing racist insignia? Was the cinema largely or entirely associated with one ethnic group? If so - I don't know the incident you are talking about - then yes, I'd say pretty clearly that it was.

The only other common denominator, of course, if you are determined to avoid the race question, is the fact that they were all armed. But that seems to be a no-go area too.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Genuine question: if a white guy wearing apartheid era SA flags on his jacket walks into a famous black church and mows down at least 9 black people, and it isn't racist...what counts as racist?

Alternatively put - if a black man wearing a Malcolm X T-shirt walked onto a New Hampshire golf course, and mowed down at least 9 white people, would anyone deny that race was a factor?

Of course he was Racist. The world is full of them. Most are harmless, like the old southern white dudes in their sheets talking non sense in the local lodge, or the English soccer fans throwing bananas at a black soccer players.

Some are dangerous. These ones are typically criminals all ready. Like the Crypts or the Bloods or the Meth dealer in the trailer park.

and some just happen to be fucking insane enough to walk in to a church and shoot women and kids.......

 

[Eyereadtoo]

Sharks in the North, racist mass murderers in the South. When I visit I shall stick firmly to Central Carolina.

Just a head's up, if you visit Camden, South Carolina it might not be a good idea for an Englishman to yell, "Cornwallis has returned!"

Yeah, you might want to skip that.

 

[eyer]

Their own hate condemns racist pieces of shit from never comprehending...

...that hate is hate no matter what color, that shooters are shooters no matter what tribe.

But keep playing your same old racist piece of shit game with your same old racist piece of shits pals, labeling and dissecting...

...strictly according to whatever tribe you choose as your racist piece of shit side.

 

[Pookie]

Just a head's up, if you visit Camden, South Carolina it might not be a good idea for an Englishman to yell, "Cornwallis has returned!"

Yeah, you might want to skip that.

Heh. Definitely not a good idea.

 

[eyer]

Was the bozo wearing racist insignia? Was the cinema largely or entirely associated with one ethnic group? If so - I don't know the incident you are talking about - then yes, I'd say pretty clearly that it was.

That makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

The only other common denominator, of course, if you are determined to avoid the race question, is the fact that they were all armed. But that seems to be a no-go area too.

Actually, the true common denominator in the three killing attacks offered is the very same common denominator found in every single act of violence perpetrated against unaggressives, regardless of whatever weapons are used (fists, knives, guns, vehicles, etc)...

...hate.

And:

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms is most certainly foundational "a no-go area"...

...and unless you favor the total disintegration of what remains of this country, you'd be wise to favor keeping the 2nd "a no-go area too".

 

[Noor]

I am a bit confused Eyer. I understand you are against hate, but unclear on the bearing of arms issue. Are you or for against carrying?

 

[Laurel]

Real conversation that happened right now, after one of us did something stupid:

Him: Do you ever think that we're probably going to end up dying of - what do you call it ---

*long pause while we both think*

Me: Starts with "D" I think

*another long pause*

Him: Dementia! That's it.

 

[ryan8558]

And so it starts

 

[NHKitty]

Real conversation that happened right now, after one of us did something stupid:

Him: Do you ever think that we're probably going to end up dying of - what do you call it ---

*long pause while we both think*

Me: Starts with "D" I think

*another long pause*

Him: Dementia! That's it.

That's funny.

 

[eyer]

I am a bit confused Eyer. I understand you are against hate, but unclear on the bearing of arms issue. Are you or for against carrying?

The Constitution itself explicitly prohibits government from intruding on the natural right of free men to keep and bear arms (by purposely not granting government any say in that matter)...

...the 2nd Amendment then was specifically ratified to underscore - with emphasis - that natural, uncompromisable, right.

Your for or against carrying query is nothing but emotion...

...the Constitution is nothing but the Law of the Land.

I know, I know: as a strictly emotional creature toward such issues...

...you cannot help but automatically associate the inalienable right to keep and bear arms with hate.

Thus...

...I assume your confusion will only just as naturally ensue.

My condolences.

 

[phantom4533]

That's funny.

Reminds me of something .....

 

[NHKitty]

Reminds me of something .....

Thursday's?

 

[JohnnySavage]

My back is killing me.

 

[phantom4533]

My back is killing me.

Sounds like you're in need of some core work.

 

[phantom4533]

I wish I could remember that place near the White House that served good coffee.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I think I may have caught a Siatica.

 

[phantom4533]

You should throw those back

 

[GimpyIntellect]

People seem crazier than usual around here today.

 

[trysail]

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[Noor]

The Constitution itself explicitly prohibits government from intruding on the natural right of free men to keep and bear arms (by purposely not granting government any say in that matter)...

...the 2nd Amendment then was specifically ratified to underscore - with emphasis - that natural, uncompromisable, right.

Your for or against carrying query is nothing but emotion...

...the Constitution is nothing but the Law of the Land.

I know, I know: as a strictly emotional creature toward such issues...

...you cannot help but automatically associate the inalienable right to keep and bear arms with hate.

Thus...

...I assume your confusion will only just as naturally ensue.

My condolences.

I am hardly a strictly emotional creature. I may be less emotional and more hard core on some things than you are.

My confusion was based solely on your post as to whether you supported bearing arms or not.

I am aware of the constitution and the Bill of Rights. I agree the Second Amendment clearly gives citizens the right to bear arms. The Sumpremes have also repeatedly upheld that right.

The only thing I tend to be emotional about right now is losing people I care about. Until recently, I was fairly stoic about death, but I lost so many people during that 6 week period last summer that has taken me a bit to regain my equilibrium. There is still a lingering layer of underlying saddness.

 

[yossi]

I'm feeling good - the green smoothies are certainly doing their job of keeping me energized. Hopefully the rain is done and I can go for a bike ride after we close.

 

[DesEsseintes]

That makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.



Actually, the true common denominator in the three killing attacks offered is the very same common denominator found in every single act of violence perpetrated against unaggressives, regardless of whatever weapons are used (fists, knives, guns, vehicles, etc)...

...hate.

And:

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms is most certainly foundational "a no-go area"...

...and unless you favor the total disintegration of what remains of this country, you'd be wise to favor keeping the 2nd "a no-go area too".

In this country we legislated against guns. Our gun death rate is insignificant compared with yours.

That has made an actual, tangible difference in the most basic way. There are, undoubtedly, people alive in Britain today who would have been dead had our gun laws remained as they were pre-Hungerford and pre-Dunblane.

If you are drafting an amendment against hate, Eyer, all the very best to you. But it will not save a single human soul.

 

[NHKitty]

I'm feeling good - the green smoothies are certainly doing their job of keeping me energized. Hopefully the rain is done and I can go for a bike ride after we close.

I was planning on a walk, but it's looking like rain. Grrrrrrr...