I got called sexist.

[lizsea]

You already know that I really consider, honor and respect your opinion Noor. You can convince me that anything you say is right, because how much I respect you and appreciate you. But I have to disagree with you this time, I have to take this stand for all men. Women should like to and they should want to cook and clean.

Saying that woman should want to and like to clean is sexist. Sorry.

 

[smoothg103rd]

So I think this is utter bullshit.

I happen to like both cooking and cleaning. I was a stay at home mom for years and adored everything about it.

But I certainly don't think or expect all women to be that way. It's not for everyone. There isn't anything wrong with you having a preference towards women who like domestic activities, but to say that all women should want to and enjoy cooking and cleaning, and that ALL men want a woman like that is a bit ridiculous.

All men do want a woman like that.

 

[smoothg103rd]

ok, so she cooks and cleans. what exactly are you bringing to the table? because, if you want her to be traditional, so should you. respectable job, steady income, fidelity, and not taking drugs.

you expect lots and offer little.

Here you go with this judgemental shit again. Dolf you really need a reality check, seriously. And I have a lot to offer, btw.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Saying that woman should want to and like to clean is sexist. Sorry.

So then we all are sexist then. You never said that your man should want to do something?

 

[1HF]

All men do want a woman like that.

How can you be so sure?

Here you go with this judgemental shit again. Dolf you really need a reality check, seriously. And I have a lot to offer, btw.

I don't think she was being judgmental.. she brought up valid points.

Do you have a steady job? Are you going to be faithful? The drugs is definitely an issue, plus the gang stuff I think you've mentioned.

Your woman should be a domestic goddess and want to take care of the home while you are doing what exactly?

There needs to be balance.

 

[lizsea]

So then we all are sexist then. You never said that your man should want to do something?

My man should do whatever he wants to do, luckily I have one that likes to cook. I don't think anyone should do anything but I wouldn't be with someone who *wouldn't* help and expected me to do certain things because of my genitals.

 

[smoothg103rd]

How can you be so sure?


I don't think she was being judgmental.. she brought up valid points.

Do you have a steady job? Are you going to be faithful? The drugs is definitely an issue, plus the gang stuff I think you've mentioned.

Your woman should be a domestic goddess and want to take care of the home while you are doing what exactly?

There needs to be balance.

First off, she is very judgmental. I don't have no job,but I can provide. I do other things to bring me income, and don't need a pay stub for that. I wouldn't do nothing to my spouse that I wouldn't want done to me. So therefore I won't cheat. If I were in a relationship, I'll be very faithful. I take drugs for recreational purposes, don't you drink from time to time? And I don't see what gangs have to do with this. It's my fraternity. Have a problem with someone being apart of a frat?

 

[smoothg103rd]

My man should do whatever he wants to do, luckily I have one that likes to cook. I don't think anyone should do anything but I wouldn't be with someone who *wouldn't* help and expected me to do certain things because of my genitals.

So you are saying that you wouldn't be with a man that wouldn't help you cook and clean? How is that so much different from what I'm saying? I'm not being with a woman that doesn't cook and clean. Your not being with a man that doesn't cook and clean. So what point are you trying to make?

 

[bg23]

Well aren't you special. And if the guy thinks you are a dumb cunt do you write that off and him having standards?

I'd write him off as having obviously terrible judgment.

Like I already have with you.

Still sore about that, honey? Don't worry, there are lots of twits out there still stupid enough to fall for your cliched white knight act.

 

[1HF]

First off, she is very judgmental. I don't have no job,but I can provide. I do other things to bring me income, and don't need a pay stub for that. I wouldn't do nothing to my spouse that I wouldn't want done to me. So therefore I won't cheat. If I were in a relationship, I'll be very faithful. I take drugs for recreational purposes, don't you drink from time to time? And I don't see what gangs have to do with this. It's my fraternity. Have a problem with someone being apart of a frat?

What other things are you doing to bring in income? Are they legal? If not, that is certainly not stable. I do believe that you might be faithful so I'll give you that one.

Recreational drugs that you seem to do a lot. I do drink from time to time, yes.

Gangs are a bit different than a fraternity, don't you think? I feel like there's a lot more danger involved there.

 

[bg23]

You already know that I really consider, honor and respect your opinion Noor. You can convince me that anything you say is right, because how much I respect you and appreciate you. But I have to disagree with you this time, I have to take this stand for all men. Women should like to and they should want to cook and clean.

Why "should" women do anything just because they're women? Who says? That's fucking bullshit.

If you prefer it a certain way, that's great, that's your preference and there's nothing wrong with having a preference.

But the fact that you believe that somebody's gender informs how they SHOULD act is sexist as fuck.

Women SHOULD cook and clean? Men SHOULD go to work? Boys play with trucks and girls play with dolls? Girls SHOULD obey everything her man says? A woman SHOULD marry her rapist? There's a lot of fucking bullshit in gender norms and buying into them does make you a sexist, sorry.

 

[bg23]

First off, she is very judgmental. I don't have no job,but I can provide. I do other things to bring me income, and don't need a pay stub for that. I wouldn't do nothing to my spouse that I wouldn't want done to me. So therefore I won't cheat. If I were in a relationship, I'll be very faithful. I take drugs for recreational purposes, don't you drink from time to time? And I don't see what gangs have to do with this. It's my fraternity. Have a problem with someone being apart of a frat?

Is your income steady? Are you around to do the man-things, like mowing the lawn, taking the trash out, fixing the roof or unclogging the drain?

Do you spend time with the kids? Take them to the park? Take her on trips, vacations, spend time with her family?

Would you mind if she was also into drugs? Or how about crime? Since you seem to be OK with it yourself, how about if she was into some stuff of her own? Her own girl-gang! And she spent a shit-ton of time high.

But she keeps the house neat and she can cook a decent meal. That's OK then, right?

 

[lizsea]

So you are saying that you wouldn't be with a man that wouldn't help you cook and clean? How is that so much different from what I'm saying? I'm not being with a woman that doesn't cook and clean. Your not being with a man that doesn't cook and clean. So what point are you trying to make?

It's difference because I'm wanting him to help because he's my partner and I don't expect him to do certain things because he has a dick???????

 

[smoothg103rd]

What other things are you doing to bring in income? Are they legal? If not, that is certainly not stable. I do believe that you might be faithful so I'll give you that one.

Recreational drugs that you seem to do a lot. I do drink from time to time, yes.

Gangs are a bit different than a fraternity, don't you think? I feel like there's a lot more danger involved there.

Nah when you think of it, fraternities and gangs are the same. They have secret handshakes and signs just as we do. They have initiation, just as we do. Paperwork to show members, togetherness, morals and rules (Just as we do). It's not the gang that turns someone into a criminal. Truth be told, he was a criminal before he joined a gang. It's principals, cops and correction officers that are affiliated with gangs. Do you know why gangs was created? The crips we created to be a part of the community, a neighborhood ( fraternity) you can say. Problem is that it consists in the ghetto were crime is a big part of it. Where frats are made up of college kids who aren't associated with them kind of things. So it's only natural that gangs have more criminals. As for my income, it's not illegal because I'm not in jail.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Why "should" women do anything just because they're women? Who says? That's fucking bullshit.

If you prefer it a certain way, that's great, that's your preference and there's nothing wrong with having a preference.

But the fact that you believe that somebody's gender informs how they SHOULD act is sexist as fuck.

Women SHOULD cook and clean? Men SHOULD go to work? Boys play with trucks and girls play with dolls? Girls SHOULD obey everything her man says? A woman SHOULD marry her rapist? There's a lot of fucking bullshit in gender norms and buying into them does make you a sexist, sorry.

Who said any of that?

 

[smoothg103rd]

Is your income steady? Are you around to do the man-things, like mowing the lawn, taking the trash out, fixing the roof or unclogging the drain?

Do you spend time with the kids? Take them to the park? Take her on trips, vacations, spend time with her family?

Would you mind if she was also into drugs? Or how about crime? Since you seem to be OK with it yourself, how about if she was into some stuff of her own? Her own girl-gang! And she spent a shit-ton of time high.

But she keeps the house neat and she can cook a decent meal. That's OK then, right?

The fact that you said"man things" doesn't make me anymore sexist then you are. And you are putting way more into this then I intended. If she doesn't like the things I do, or my past, then she won't be with me. The same as if I think like the things she does, I won't be with her. Problems?

 

[smoothg103rd]

It's difference because I'm wanting him to help because he's my partner and I don't expect him to do certain things because he has a dick???????

OK, since she is "my partner" I want her to help do certain things. Like cook ,clean, give me a blowjob and fuck me regularly. Better?

 

[Noor]

OK, since she is "my partner" I want her to help do certain things. Like cook ,clean, give me a blowjob and fuck me regularly. Better?

What do you provide?

 

[lizsea]

OK, since she is "my partner" I want her to help do certain things. Like cook ,clean, give me a blowjob and fuck me regularly. Better?

Sure, if you help her do things that she wishes you to do. And don't believe for a second she's totally opposed to you doing dishes after you make her cook.

 

[bg23]

The fact that you said"man things" doesn't make me anymore sexist then you are. And you are putting way more into this then I intended. If she doesn't like the things I do, or my past, then she won't be with me. The same as if I think like the things she does, I won't be with her. Problems?

I'm using "man things" as an example of the gender stereotype you're buying into.

Why do you think women -should- do anything?

There's a difference between preferring something, and thinking a woman should have to do something because she's a woman.

If you want -your- partner to have particular traits, great. But when you say, "Women should cook and clean" you are saying you expect ALL women to behave this way because they're women. Why? What is that based in? Is there any more validity to that than to say all women should not be allowed to drive?

 

[smoothg103rd]

What do you provide?

Whatever she likes. But this is what I bring to the table, stability, a sense of protection, loyal, faithfulness, comfort , and treating her like a queen. Oh, and yeah, I'll eat her pussy and give her the best fuck regularly.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Sure, if you help her do things that she wishes you to do. And don't believe for a second she's totally opposed to you doing dishes after you make her cook.

OK. So I'm not sexist?

 

[lizsea]

OK. So I'm not sexist?

No. Totally are. But good luck finding a slave.

 

[Noor]

When men really want is intimacy, to be accepted and supported, to be loved unconditionally, and peace in the home.
Sex, cleaning and cooking and all those other things are just pieces of the whole and up to whatever agreement they have with their partner(s)

 

[smoothg103rd]

I'm using "man things" as an example of the gender stereotype you're buying into.

Why do you think women -should- do anything?

There's a difference between preferring something, and thinking a woman should have to do something because she's a woman.

If you want -your- partner to have particular traits, great. But when you say, "Women should cook and clean" you are saying you expect ALL women to behave this way because they're women. Why? What is that based in? Is there any more validity to that than to say all women should not be allowed to drive?

I'm going to try to explain this to you the best way I could. Even though I'm not good at explaining things. The difference between us men and women is what makes us men and them women. Men are stronger, so we are expected to do "manly things" like lifting, pulling, yard work and she like that. Women are more feminine, so that's why they are expected to do more feminine things. I'm not saying that cooking and cleaning are feminine. Because it is good for a man to learn. Just in case he can't get a woman ( Eyer) he can still look out for himself. I'm not saying that once I get in a relationship that I will refuse to cook and clean. There will be times when I will surprise her with a occasional wine and dine, so therefore I will try my best to make her dinner. And there will be times when I just zone out listening to loud music with no shirt and basketball shorts, and mop the floor do the dishes and clean the house. But I expect her to do them things majority of the time. Like 90% of the time. Got it?