So how do you prosecute 47 traitors? Perhaps we need to find out.

[LJ_Reloaded]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ven-the-president/?postshare=4441426016708630

A group of 47 Republican senators has written an open letter to Iran’s leaders warning them that any nuclear deal they sign with President Barack Obama’s administration won’t last after Obama leaves office.

That's treason, folks.

 

[parodyluvr75]

That is just fucked up. It makes us look weak to foreign powers. Even if they strongly oppose his decision, they should have never done this.

 

[1sickbastard]

Care to explain, exactly, just how this act of douchbaggery qualifies as treason?

 

[Hypoxia]

It's not treason, just incredibly stupid, 'cause the next GOP prez (if any) will get the same treatment. See GOP Hate Obama More Than They Love America and Signers Admit Iran Letter Is Dumb Idea.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

That is just fucked up. It makes us look weak to foreign powers. Even if they strongly oppose his decision, they should have never done this.

We are weak, Bird Brainiac.

 

[heartlesskitten]

I haven't read the article yet but I'm pretty sure Texas will be represented in this open letter of dumbassery.

 

[1sickbastard]

We are weak, Bird Brainiac.

Okay....
So the US is the world's fourth most populous nation
The US economy accounts for a full fourth of the global economy
The USN controls the worlds oceans
The USAF is the world's largest Air Force
The USN is the worlds's second largest Air Force
US military spending is greater than the next ten smaller nations combined
The US is so far along in fulfilling it's Grand Strategy imperatives it doesn't even have to win wars, just start them.

So how is the US weak?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Care to explain, exactly, just how this act of douchbaggery qualifies as treason?

Trying to conduct foreign policy negotiations, especially in contradiction of the President, is treason. Their letter constitutes nothing short of that.

Ever heard of the Logan Act?

“Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ven-the-president/?postshare=4441426016708630

That's treason, folks.

No it's not. Jim Wright did it to Reagan and in the last administration Harry Reid pronounced the war lost from the floor of the Senate even before our boys and girls had left to go fight in the surge (which we won at great cost and this President callously threw away so that he could spike the ball and declare victory at halftime) and you kept fucking quiet about that treason, so do us a favor and shut the fuck up now and let our leaders show the fucking Persian carpet salesmen, that despite what they see from this administration, we still have a backbone.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Okay....
So the US is the world's fourth most populous nation
The US economy accounts for a full fourth of the global economy
The USN controls the worlds oceans
The USAF is the world's largest Air Force
The USN is the worlds's second largest Air Force
US military spending is greater than the next ten smaller nations combined
The US is so far along in fulfilling it's Grand Strategy imperatives it doesn't even have to win wars, just start them.

So how is the US weak?

We are retreating from all of that in favor of conflict resolution and instead of absolutely crushing bad players across the globe, embracing them and proving to them that we will not stand up to them and then begging them to be our friends.

 

[Ishmael]

No it's not. Jim Wright did it to Reagan and in the last administration Harry Reid pronounced the war lost from the floor of the Senate even before our boys and girls had left to go fight in the surge (which we won at great cost and this President callously threw away so that he could spike the ball and declare victory at halftime) and you kept fucking quiet about that treason, so do us a favor and shut the fuck up now and let our leaders show the fucking Persian carpet salesmen, that despite what they see from this administration, we still have a backbone.

^^^^This.

Stick to misogyny LT, you suck at politics.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

 

[contrifan32]

Trying to conduct foreign policy negotiations, especially in contradiction of the President, is treason. Their letter constitutes nothing short of that.

Ever heard of the Logan Act?

Once again, did you read the letter sent to the Islamic Republic or Iran? I doubt you did. The letter was factual and was designed to remind Iran that the US is a Constitutional Republic, not a theocracy or monarchy... and also to remind POTUS

The basic premiss of the letter should be sent to Mexico and the other Latin American countries who look the other way while allowing their "tired and poor" to cross their borders and countries while making their way to ours.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Amen.

 

[Wrong Element]

It's not treason, just incredibly stupid, 'cause the next GOP prez (if any) will get the same treatment. See GOP Hate Obama More Than They Love America and Signers Admit Iran Letter Is Dumb Idea.

No, they won't get the same treatment. The first thing Obama did when he became president was decree that any investigation into the lies that got us into Iraq was off limits. "Bygones. If I just play nice with them, they will be nice to me," he reasoned. Yeah, that worked out well.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

In 2007, many on the right were consumed by the same passionate fury with which Democrats presently contend. Then, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) traveled to Syria in a display of dissent against the Bush administration’s approach to foreign affairs. In Damascus, Pelosi represented the American political opposition when she sat down with the murderous thug Bashar al-Assad, a Ba’athist dictator who would begin deploying chemical weapons against his country’s civilian population just five years later.

Pelosi maintained that she and President Bush shared the same goals, and she served merely as a de facto emissary for the administration. The White House disagreed. “There is nothing funny about the impact her trip to Syria has had,” said then National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe. “On the contrary, these visits have convinced the Assad regime that its actions in support of terrorists have no consequences.”

...

In 1991, it was revealed that the late Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) proposed quite a coup that might have dangerously undermined American foreign policy in the process. In 1983, then KGB Chairman Viktor Chebrikov composed a memorandum to General Secretary Yuri Andropov, himself a former KGB chief who brutally crushed the anti-Soviet rebellions in Hungary and Czechoslovakia in 1956 and 1968 respectively. The memo revealed that Kennedy had approached the Soviet spy service with an offer. “Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan,” Peter Robinson, a former speechwriter for President Ronald Reagan, wrote in 2009. “In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election.”

“Like other rational people” Chebrikov explained to Tovarish Andropov, “[Kennedy] is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations.” For the Soviets’ assistance in 1984, Kennedy offered to help Andropov secure a variety of television interviews in the United States. Though President Reagan served as executor of American foreign policy and the guarantor of American interests at this time, and 1983 was a dangerous year for Soviet-American relations, Kennedy sought to undermine him for personal gain and the advancement of his party’s electoral prospects.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/03/...-equal-branch-of-government-has-consequences/

 

[Adre]

If Democrats did this the loony Whackadoodle lit fringe would be pissing their pants in an unparalleled whinefest of epic proportions.

 

[cowslinger64]

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/03/...-equal-branch-of-government-has-consequences/

snip:

Congressman Nick Joe Rahall (D-WV) appeared on C-Span yesterday morning, and did a great job defending those on the trip to Syria, and Speaker Nancy Pelosi regarding the outrageous lies that have been foisted on the American people by the administration, many Republicans, and the main stream media. A post on Think Progress about Congressman Rahall can be read, and a video viewed showing the Congressman shooting down a "Republican" caller regarding the lies that have been told about the trip. The post can be seen on on Think Progress here. He makes it very clear that Bush knew they were making the trip and offered no objections...
Rep. Nick Rahall (D-WV), who traveled last week with Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) as part of her delegation to the Middle East, said this morning on C-Span that Pelosi told Bush of the trip to Syria a day before they left, and Bush did not object.


Rahall said, "The Speaker had met with President Bush in the halls of the U.S. Capitol just the day before we left and mentioned to him that we were going to Syria. No response at all from the President."
Despite the White House's public rhetoric that the trip was a "bad idea," President Bush "did not tell her not to go, nor did the State Department tell us not to go," Rahall said. "The State Department was certainly aware of our traveling to Syria and our full itinerary. And there were State Department officials in every meeting that we had on this codel. So that is all hogwash as far as I'm concerned."

The complete interview with Congressman Rahall can be viewed on C-Span here. Its great to see one of our Congressmen stepping up to the plate, and doing a great job. I'd love to see him on one of the mainstream media Sunday talk shows. He has no trouble using words like "baloney" and "hogwash" when necessary.


http://thinkprogress.org/security/2007/04/08/11735/rahall-syria-trip/

snip:

CALLER: I am a Republican. And I thought under the Logan Act that Ms. Pelosi has committed a felony because under our Constitution, section 2 of the Constitution, that the president is the one who conducts — sends the people off, to conduct our foreign affairs. Now he told her he didn’t want her to go. That is a violation of the Logan Act. She should be hauled off in jail because if i was to commit a felony, i’d be hauled off and gone to jail.
RAHALL: First of all, that’s baloney. We were in violation of no u.s. laws. Second of all, the President did not tell her not to go, nor did the State Department tell us not to go. There were three Republican members of Congress in Damascus a few days before our trip. There was a Republican member of Congress in Damascus meeting with the President after our trip.
The Speaker had met with President Bush in the halls of the U.S. Capitol just the day before we left and mentioned to him that we were going to Syria. No response at all from the President. The State Department was certainly aware of our traveling to Syria and our full itinerary. And there were State Department officials in every meeting t

 

[Wrong Element]

Sort of off topic, but since I don't open LT's threads all too often: that sigline of his is demented even by his own standards.

 

[Wrong Element]

Pelosi's trip to Syria -- which as stated above was only an "issue" because she was Pelosi, since other members of Congress had been to Syria with no one complaining -- was subject of a long GB thread back in the day:


http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=508765



Lots of choice stuff in this thread from our old friend Vetteman on the subject of how the president and ONLY the president has the right to conduct foreign policy.

 

[Adre]

Pelosi's trip to Syria -- which as stated above was only an "issue" because she was Pelosi, since other members of Congress had been to Syria with no one complaining -- was subject of a long GB thread back in the day:


http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=508765



Lots of choice stuff in this thread from our old friend Vetteman on the subject of how the president and ONLY the president has the right to conduct foreign policy.

(Vetty, eight years ago.)

Get real, read the Constitution. There is a separation of powers, Congress cannot have it's own foreign policy. The Logan Act has been around since 1799 and was revised in 1994.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

when will obama, the terrorist, finally go on trial?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/737zcgnk.asp



From Ortega to Hussein, Democrats words are a tyrant's best friend, unless, of course, he reforms in response to Republican action.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/04/20/us/congress-letter-to-nicaragua-dear-comandante.html?smid=tw-share

tee hee

 

[cowslinger64]

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/04/20/us/congress-letter-to-nicaragua-dear-comandante.html?smid=tw-share

tee hee

Is that your response to the post above where I completely showed you were wrong about Pelosi? Neither article references it.

Is this your dancing and goal post moving or do you have a rebuttal?