Justice for Trayvon??

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[ChinaBandit]

Dead kids. Fuck yes! I'm glad you're in China.

Here's the lesson once more class.

If you are going to fight be prepared to do so for your life. Anything less is stupid.

 

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[Phelia]

Even with Zimmerman following, if Trayvon turned and assaulted him, he committed a crime on Zimmerman's person, if he continued the assault and Zimmerman feared great bodily injury, Zimmerman had the right to kill him under the laws of Florida. You might not agree, but those are the facts. The ultimate fact is, after all of the kind of logic you're presenting here, the jury found no merit in it, superior to the law.

Are you reading what I'm saying? I think the jury voted correctly.

if Trayvon turned and assaulted him

Which they can neither prove nor disprove.

if he continued the assault and Zimmerman feared great bodily injury

Which they can neither prove nor disprove.

You're acting as though they proved both of those things, which they can't and didn't. You're using this combined with your own assumptions of Trayvon's character to suggest that his killing was justified, and I think that's pretty awful.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

I think the Atlantic summed it up best

"What the verdict tells us is, you can go looking for trouble in Florida, with a gun and a great deal of racial bias, and you can find that trouble, and you can act upon that trouble in a way that leaves a young man dead, and none of it guarantees that you will be convicted of a crime."

Amen.

 

[Phelia]

Zimmerman should not be going to jail for a justifiable homicide under the law. No man should go to jail for self defense if it is lawful. The police said it was lawful, the chief investigator said it was lawful, the Jury says it's lawful. Political types needed a show trial in the name of political correctness, not the law.

The facts are that an armed man got out of his car and began to follow an unarmed teenager. Because of that, some sort of conflict transpired in which the armed man ended up injured and the unarmed teenager died from a gunshot wound to the chest. The evidence is inconclusive - the 911 calls and timeline do not match up with Zimmerman's story and the chief investigator was wrong or lying when he said witness testimonies lined up with Zimmerman's statement of events. You're seeing the story you want to see.

Look, I think you guys are just totally, totally wrong. I'm too sensitive about this to keep talking about it; it's making me pretty upset, so I'm just going to stay out of these threads for a little while. I appreciate that you are taking the time to engage with me on this, but I don't think we're going to agree. A favor though - when jeninflorida and China Bandit start saying really blatantly stupid, cruel, offensive things, I'd like it if you didn't respond. You don't have to call them out, but they really don't deserve attention.

 

[pete]

I think the Atlantic summed it up best

"What the verdict tells us is, you can go looking for trouble in Florida, with a gun and a great deal of racial bias, and you can find that trouble, and you can act upon that trouble in a way that leaves a young man dead, and none of it guarantees that you will be convicted of a crime."

Amen.

the atlantic wasn't there that night, and neither were you.
therefore expressing an opinion one way or another seems naive, and telling of one's own intrinsic biases.

 

[Phelia]

You said the jury vote correctly in one breath, and in another you said he should go to jail.

I think you have a bad habit, maybe out of need, to put the worst possible light on what I have to say. This isn't the first time you've misjudged the meaning or intentions of my posts.

They proved the state brought charges they could never prove in court.

I do think he should go to jail. Not on those charges, though. I think his actions led to Trayvon's death and that he should be held accountable. I wish the laws were different.

Emotions on both sides are heated. I apologized for misreading what you were saying earlier, but I think your comments now are inappropriate, and I'm taking them at face value. However, I know I'm also being hyper-sensitive, so I'm going to mosey on out of this thread. Just wanted to clarify my position.

 

[RobDownSouth]

the atlantic wasn't there that night, and neither were you.
therefore expressing an opinion one way or another seems naive, and telling of one's own intrinsic biases.

I'm going to offer my opinion any time I desire. Teh ignore button is your friend.

Feel free to take your own intrinsic biases, shine 'em real good, turn 'em sideways, and stick 'em up your ass.

 

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[pete]

I'm going to offer my opinion any time I desire. Teh ignore button is your friend.

Feel free to take your own intrinsic biases, shine 'em real good, turn 'em sideways, and stick 'em up your ass.

don't get angry, bro.
i'm just trying to get you to do some self-reflecting.

no lit poster was on the jury, and yet there's a ton of judging (and pre-judging) going on. always makes me curious why ppl felt the need to stamp a 'guilty' or 'not guilty' label on the case, especially without having all the evidence

 

[RobDownSouth]

don't get angry, bro.
i'm just trying to get you to do some self-reflecting.

no lit poster was on the jury, and yet there's a ton of judging (and pre-judging) going on. always makes me curious why ppl felt the need to stamp a 'guilty' or 'not guilty' label on the case, especially without having all the evidence

Not angry, more annoyed with you trying to squelch opinions you don't agree with.

Anyway, here's a picture I think we can both agree on...
http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/850/mgok.jpg

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I'm going to offer my opinion any time I desire. Teh ignore button is your friend.

Feel free to take your own intrinsic biases, shine 'em real good, turn 'em sideways, and stick 'em up your ass.

Agreed. And my opinion is Trayvon could have:

- Gone home.
- Asked the cracker douchebag why he was following him.
- Called 911 himself.

But instead he jumped the cracker douchebag, who happened to be packing, and got shot in the heart.

 

[koalabear]

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[akatrex]

Of course it should have gone to trial. I will say that it should not have been made a spectacle, but absolutely it had to go to trial. I think the jury voted correctly, but really, Zimmerman should be going to jail. Can you please explain how you think the aftermath would turn out to be the biggest tragedy of all?

Interesting that the Chief of Police and the District Attorney did not thinks so.

 

[pete]

opine away, brother

 

[jeninflorida]

what I find interesting....is how they fired the old police chef and installed a "black" man.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

"A system cannot fail those it was never built to protect."

- W.E.B. DuBois

 

[Wrong Element]

You said the jury vote correctly in one breath, and in another you said he should go to jail.

I think you have a bad habit, maybe out of need, to put the worst possible light on what I have to say. This isn't the first time you've misjudged the meaning or intentions of my posts.

They proved the state brought charges they could never prove in court.

So any time a defendant is acquitted, it means the trial never should have taken place?

 

[Disgustipated]

911 operator told him to not pursuit, none of this would have happened if the killer listened.

 

[eyer]

911 operator told him to not pursuit, none of this would have happened if the killer listened.

And, in Lady Justice's other hand of course:

If Trayvon Martin would've just proceeded home...

...the fatal confrontation never would've happened, either.

 

[koalabear]

"A system cannot fail those it was never built to protect."

- W.E.B. DuBois

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DERP!

 

[IrezumiKiss]

And, in Lady Justice's other hand of course:

If Trayvon Martin would've just proceeded home...

...the fatal confrontation never would've happened, either.

Yes, Eyer...

...we know.

If the girl just hadn't have worn that revealing blouse, those thigh-baring shorts, even in the high heat of summertime and just covered herself up, or even better yet, just stayed home that night instead going out to have social fun...

...she wouldn't have gotten attacked/accosted/raped for stimulating the rapist's desires.

It's that simple, I know.