Zimmerman verdict is in.

[KingOrfeo]

Florida is part of the South. Never forget.

Well, kindasorta. Before WWII, Florida was an underpopulated state, and very definitely part of the South, except that a lot of rich Yankees liked to spend their winter vacations here. After WWII, when electrification and air-conditioning became commonplace, Florida was very heavily colonized by Yankees (and I don't mean retirees alone). My Mom's family were Old Florida Crackers, my Dad's family moved here from New Jersey, and that's a routine story here. And in that same period, Florida -- especially but not limited to Miami-Dade County -- has also been heavily colonized by Latinos (and not Cubans alone), who do not fit into the American North-South paradigm, but at any rate certainly are not Southerners -- not because they are nonwhite (Southern blacks are Southerners undeniably), but because they are Catholic.

 

[Wrong Element]

Well, kindasorta. Before WWII, Florida was an underpopulated state, and very definitely part of the South, except that a lot of rich Yankees liked to spend their winter vacations here. After WWII, when electrification and air-conditioning became commonplace, Florida was very heavily colonized by Yankees (and I don't mean retirees alone). My Mom's family were Old Florida Crackers, my Dad's family moved here from New Jersey, and that's a routine story here. And in that same period, Florida -- especially but not limited to Miami-Dade County -- has also been heavily colonized by Latinos (and not Cubans alone), who do not fit into the American North-South paradigm, but at any rate certainly are not Southerners, because they are Catholic.

Before WWII, Florida was actually the least populous of the former Confederate states.

There's been a lot of reaction to my initial remark in this thread, but c'mon, we're talking about the non-coastal, north of Orlando part of Florida. Also known as "the South." What Zimmerman did is the latest chapter in one of America's oldest stories.

 

[evesdream]

When your side is losing an argument, or has already lost it, Libs play the race card.

You're not very bright, are you.

 

[KingOrfeo]

It's the difference between eating Mexican food in San Antonio and eating it in Milwaukee.

Is there a difference? Taco Bell is Taco Bell.

 

[KingOrfeo]

There is vastly more unpunished killing of black people in Chicago.

But not by persons pretending to uphold law and order.

 

[renard_ruse]

Well, kindasorta. Before WWII, Florida was an underpopulated state, and very definitely part of the South, except that a lot of rich Yankees liked to spend their winter vacations here. After WWII, when electrification and air-conditioning became commonplace, Florida was very heavily colonized by Yankees (and I don't mean retirees alone). My Mom's family were Old Florida Crackers, my Dad's family moved here from New Jersey, and that's a routine story here. And in that same period, Florida -- especially but not limited to Miami-Dade County -- has also been heavily colonized by Latinos (and not Cubans alone), who do not fit into the American North-South paradigm, but at any rate certainly are not Southerners -- not because they are nonwhite (Southern blacks are Southerners undeniably), but because they are Catholic.

Because they are Catholic they aren't Southerners? Seriously? So Cajuns aren't Southerners?

 

[run_silent]

What does Zimmerman's race have to do with WE's statement?

I don't know you. So here the statement that WE said.
Racism explains most of the reaction to this case--the extreme interest in this case shown by the GB's foremost racists is proof of that--but firearms worship is certainly a factor also.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Does Florida just have really shitty laws?

Yes, actually, but I don't think that has anything to do with this.

 

[KingOrfeo]

How do we fix a society where we have people walking around scared and desperate and armed?

Gun control.

 

[imalickin]

And now the race baiters crawl out of the woodwork.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Almost. As they say about Florida, the more north you go, the more South it gets.

That is because only Florida north of, say, Ocala was very heavily populated, therefore very heavily Dixie, before WWII. After WWII we got air-conditioning, and Yankees, most of whom settled south of Ocala.

 

[renard_ruse]

The truth is this whole issue was never a racial issue, except for the Department of Justice working with Al Sharpton and the race pimp gang to try to make it one. That's a shame because it detracted from the real issue and that's the problem of teenage hooligans, regardless of race, and how society should handle the problem.

I see a teenager in a hoodie or worse yet wearing one of those god-damned knit caps on an 80 degree day, and yes I'm going to think there's a potential hooligan scumbag REGARDLESS OF RACE. All races of teenagers are dangerous. I used to be a teenager, I know how bad they can be. Yet, obviously people can't go around shooting them willy nilly, so its hard to say what the answer is.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The truth is this whole issue was never a racial issue, except for the Department of Justice working with Al Sharpton and the race pimp gang to try to make it one.

You're lying again. Do you even care about that any more?

 

[renard_ruse]

You're lying again. Do you even care about that any more?

You're lying if you are saying I'm "lying." Does that not bother you?

You know perfectly well Holder was the driving force behind this. Stop lying and trying to deny it. Shame on you.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Because why would anyone ever be afraid of a white person?

What color were Hitler, Stalin, John Dillinger, and Ted Bundy?

 

[KingOrfeo]

When your side is losing an argument, or has already lost it, Libs play the race card.

Now, you know very well that is a lie.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Because they are Catholic they aren't Southerners? Seriously? So Cajuns aren't Southerners?

Not really, no. They're here on sufferance. True Southerners are Protestants, end of story. (Not that I'm defending this classification, only acknowledging its traditional power.)

 

[KingOrfeo]

You know perfectly well Holder was the driving force behind this.

No, I don't, and neither do you, liar.

 

[KingOrfeo]

And now the race baiters crawl out of the woodwork.

N.B.: All "race-baiters" so described are white, and Republican.

 

[ChinaBandit]

What color were Hitler, Stalin, John Dillinger, and Ted Bundy?

And OJ is negroid and Mao was Han. WTF?

 

[KingOrfeo]

And OJ is negroid and Mao was Han. WTF?

TF is that white people should not be assumed to be less dangerous than nonwhites.

 

[run_silent]

Before WWII, Florida was actually the least populous of the former Confederate states.

There's been a lot of reaction to my initial remark in this thread, but c'mon, we're talking about the non-coastal, north of Orlando part of Florida. Also known as "the South." What Zimmerman did is the latest chapter in one of America's oldest stories.

If you think Sanford is not a suburb of Orlando you would be mistaken. The easiest thing I can point to is all the local TV and radio stations include what is happening in Sanford in their traffic reports.

 

[ChinaBandit]

TF is that white people should not be assumed to be less dangerous than nonwhites.

I assume everyone is dangerous, and deadly, if violent toward me. So, I agree with you.

 

[Wrong Element]

What color were Hitler, Stalin, John Dillinger, and Ted Bundy?

I thought my sarcasm was obvious.

 

[run_silent]

Not really, no. They're here on sufferance. True Southerners are Protestants, end of story. (Not that I'm defending this classification, only acknowledging its traditional power.)

This basic all including comment seems bigoted to me. It reeks of "if you've seen one you've seen than all".