Justice for Trayvon??

[Ishmael]

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I think that fairly portrays the media's role in this affair. Just need an incite to riot cartoon now.

Ishmael

 

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[IrezumiKiss]

Good dollops of pre-decision derp going on in heah!

good, good...need a good closing out show from the shitstain contingent come the morrow. need a good appetizer first.

 

[BiSexBeatboi]

He got his justice.

 

[phrodeau]

I think that fairly portrays the media's role in this affair. Just need an incite to riot cartoon now.

Ishmael

If you're in the neighborhood, slap some shoe polish on your face, post a tweet and get rioting. Your friends can take video of you to show the world how "those people" behave.

 

[Boxlicker101]

There is no shortage of "incite to riot" cartoons.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...oting-tragedy/2012/03/23/gIQAFNE1XS_blog.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...aper-trayvon-martin-cartoon-article-1.1052742

 

[Sean]

I see the RWCJ narrative has moved on to "the blacks are animals".

 

[Wrong Element]

I think that fairly portrays the media's role in this affair. Just need an incite to riot cartoon now.

Ishmael

Like I said yesterday, the notion that Zimmerman is being lynched is not only literally inaccurate--if someone is on trial, they are by definition not being lynched--it's ridiculously offensive considering the actual history of Florida, and who the dead person is in this case.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Justice for Trayvon Martin happened when he got killed. Just think of all the crimes he will not be able to commit.

If more ganstas like him were put into prison and kept there for most of their lives America would be a safe place for decent people.

 

[The_Trouvere]

I see the RWCJ narrative has moved on to "the blacks are animals".

They are rather obviously an inferior, dangerous, and primitive race. They are less evolved than whites.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Like I said yesterday, the notion that Zimmerman is being lynched is not only literally inaccurate--if someone is on trial, they are by definition not being lynched--it's ridiculously offensive considering the actual history of Florida, and who the dead person is in this case.

The lynching comes long before the trial.

If it were not for the machinations of the race-hustling industry coupled with the antics of the Justice Department and the righteous indignation of a national press which no longer reports but intercedes in the name of Social Justice, there would not have been so much as a single charge in this case. That is actual fact.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Needless to say, even in a nutso jurisdiction like Florida, the crime of “child abuse” was never intended to cover a wizened old granny kicking the ankle of the punk who’s mugging her a week before his 18th birthday. But, if Aggravated Pedophilia is what it takes to fry that puffy white cracker’s butt, so be it. If, for the purposes of American show trials, an Hispanic who voted for a black president can be instantly transformed into a white racist, there’s no reason why he can’t be a child abuser, too. The defense was notified of this novel development, on which the prosecution (judging by the volume of precedents assembled) had been working for weeks or more likely months, at 7:30 that morning. If you know your Magna Carta, you’ll be aware that “no official shall place a man on trial . . . without producing credible witnesses to the truth of it.” But the rights enjoyed by free men in the England of King John in 1215 are harder to come by in the State of Florida eight centuries later. So the prosecutors decided, the day before the case went to the jury, that Zimmerman was engaged in an act of child abuse that had somehow got a bit out of hand: No “credible witnesses” to this charge had been presented in the preceding weeks, but hey, what the hell? Opposing counsel taking the reasonable position that they’d shown up to defend Mr. Zimmerman of murder and had had no idea until that morning that he was also on trial for child abuse, check bouncing, jaywalking, an expired fishing license, or whatever other accusation took the fancy of the State of Florida, asked for time to research the relevant case law. Judge Debra Nelson gave them until 1 p.m. At that point, it was 10:30 a.m. By the time the genius jurist had returned to the bench, she had reconsidered, and decided that “child abuse” would be a reach too far, even for her disgraceful court.

The defining characteristic of English law is its distribution of power between prosecutor, judge, and jury. This delicate balance has been utterly corrupted in the United States to the point where today at the federal level there is a conviction rate of over 90 percent — which would impress Mubarak and the House of Saud, if not quite, yet, Kim Jong Un. American prosecutors have an unhealthy and disreputable addiction to what I called, at the conclusion of the trial of my old boss Conrad Black six years ago, “countless counts.” In Conrad’s case, he was charged originally with 17 crimes, three of which were dropped by the opening of the trial and another halfway through, leaving 13 for the jury, nine of which they found the defendant not guilty of, bringing it down to four, one of which the Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional and the remaining three of which they vacated, only to have two of them reinstated by the lower appeals court. In other words, the prosecution lost 88 percent of the case, but the 12 percent they won was enough to destroy Conrad Black’s life.

Multiple charges tend, through sheer weight of numbers, to favor a result in which the jury convict on some and acquit on others and then tell themselves that they’ve reached a “moderate” “compromise” as befits the reasonable persons they assuredly are. It is, of course, not reasonable. Indeed, the notion of a “compromise” between conviction and acquittal is a dagger at the heart of justice. It’s the repugnant “plea bargain” in reverse, but this time to bargain with the jury: Okay, we threw the book at him and it went nowhere, so why don’t we all agree to settle? In Sanford, the state’s second closing “argument” to the strange, shrunken semi-jury of strikingly unrepresentative peers — facts, shmacts, who really knows? vote with your hearts — brilliantly dispenses with the need for a “case” at all.

We have been warned that in the event of an acquittal there could be riots. My own feeling is that the Allegedly Reverend Al Sharpton, now somewhat emaciated and underbouffed from his Tawana Brawley heyday, is not the Tahrir Square–scale race-baiting huckster he once was. But if Floridians are of a mind to let off a little steam, they might usefully burn down the Sanford courthouse and salt the earth. The justice system revealed by this squalid trial is worth rioting over.

Mark Steyn, NRO


Let us not forget Wen Ho Lee and Scooter Libby...

 

[Ishmael]

Mark Steyn, NRO


Let us not forget Wen Ho Lee and Scooter Libby...

It's not the facts that count, it's the seriousness of the charges.

Ishmael

 

[Wat_Tyler]

They don't have to win the trial to ruin your life, either.


Just ask Julie Hiatt Steele.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It's not the facts that count, it's the seriousness of the charges.

Ishmael

Let us also not forget, as the Judge in this case teaches us, the plight of the "unassailable victim (Coulter)."

You cannot as much as know that this "child" was on suspension from school...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

They don't have to win the trial to ruin your life, either.


Just ask Julie Hiatt Steele.

Where do I now go to get my reputation back?

Even if they do not convict, Zimmerman has been handed a Life Sentence.

If they do not convict, how quickly will Holder file Federal Civil Rights violation charges?

He'll find a court, judge and jury that will make that one stick or be so intimidating (with his unlimited Fed-Printed resources) as to extort a plea bargain to keep the race-baiting Social Justice machine in business.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Where do I now go to get my reputation back?

Even if they do not convict, Zimmerman has been handed a Life Sentence.

If they do not convict, how quickly will Holder file Federal Civil Rights violation charges?

He'll find a court, judge and jury that will make that one stick or be so intimidating (with his unlimited Fed-Printed resources) as to extort a plea bargain to keep the race-baiting Social Justice machine in business.

If you are viewed as having enough cum in you, then you are dropped like a used condom.


I know, it's a disgusting image, but I am eating breakfast, so I didn't want one that would actually nauseate me.


George has made me remember this guy I knew 35 years ago. We called him Droop-eye Walt. Little fucker was a wannabe cop in the worst kinda way. None of the local "forces" would hire him, and I doubt he could pass the tests. Those tests exist to keep the unsuitable from making the cut . . . but there is always the dreaded volunteer work.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Let us also not forget, as the Judge in this case teaches us, the plight of the "unassailable victim (Coulter)."

You cannot as much as know that this "child" was on suspension from school...

So any kid suspended from school is a stone cold killer?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The lynching comes long before the trial.

If it were not for the machinations of the race-hustling industry coupled with the antics of the Justice Department and the righteous indignation of a national press which no longer reports but intercedes in the name of Social Justice, there would not have been so much as a single charge in this case. That is actual fact.

Based on my experiences, if George was queer he wouldn't be on trial. Queer beats black every time.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Good dollops of pre-decision derp going on in heah!

good, good...need a good closing out show from the shitstain contingent come the morrow. need a good appetizer first.

^^^^^ ZUMI always reminds of the old men who escape from the home, go to the park, unzip their pants, and piss all over their legs as little kids gather round and watch.

 

[Ishmael]

Those that want to see Zimmerman found guilty are studiously avoiding that 4 min. gap in time. The 4 min. that occurred between the time Martin had evaded Zimmerman until the time the confrontation took place. The distance Martin had to cover to be home free was 70 yds or less. A distance that an out of shape man in a leg cast on crutches could have covered several times over in that 4 min. Those 4 min. speak loudly as to who initiated the confrontation.

In order to find Zimmerman guilty of anything that time gap has to be fully explained by the prosecution. Their story has to hold together from start to finish and they never addressed that time gap, glossed over it as if it never happened.

Ishmael

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Those that want to see Zimmerman found guilty are studiously avoiding that 4 min. gap in time. The 4 min. that occurred between the time Martin had evaded Zimmerman until the time the confrontation took place. The distance Martin had to cover to be home free was 70 yds or less. A distance that an out of shape man in a leg cast on crutches could have covered several times over in that 4 min. Those 4 min. speak loudly as to who initiated the confrontation.

In order to find Zimmerman guilty of anything that time gap has to be fully explained by the prosecution. Their story has to hold together from start to finish and they never addressed that time gap, glossed over it as if it never happened.

Ishmael

That's a complete assumption on your part.

You're assuming that Martin knew why he was being followed & assuming he knew he had avoided Zimmerman.

You also need to explain that why Zimmerman was standing outside looking for Martin 4 minutes later when he had claimed to be afraid of him.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Those that want to see Zimmerman found guilty are studiously avoiding that 4 min. gap in time. The 4 min. that occurred between the time Martin had evaded Zimmerman until the time the confrontation took place. The distance Martin had to cover to be home free was 70 yds or less. A distance that an out of shape man in a leg cast on crutches could have covered several times over in that 4 min. Those 4 min. speak loudly as to who initiated the confrontation.

In order to find Zimmerman guilty of anything that time gap has to be fully explained by the prosecution. Their story has to hold together from start to finish and they never addressed that time gap, glossed over it as if it never happened.

Ishmael

It appears that the gals don't gotta reason any of it out logically. Trayvons momma is due some payback in payment for her lamb, and some of the gals on the jury is gonna hold out for it.

 

[Ishmael]

That's a complete assumption on your part.

You're assuming that Martin knew he had avoided Zimmerman.

You also need to explain that why Zimmerman was standing outside looking for Martin 4 minutes later when he had claimed to be afraid of him.

First of all your first and second sentences are ridiculous on the face of it. There is no assumption on my part, the facts preclude any assumption. Further Martin didn't HAVE to know that he'd evaded Zimmerman, he merely had to get home. I suppose that one could concoct a theory that Zimmerman was holding Martin pinned down with his pistol drawn, in a Weaver combat stance, while Martin chatted away with his GF in Miami. And if that were the case one would think that Martin might have mentioned it.

If you followed the transcript and the time line AND the investigators walk through, how Zimmerman spent those 4 min. was fully explained. You may choose not to accept that but the fact remains there was a full explanation on the part of the defense while the prosecution offered no credible explanation at all. The defenses story holds together from start to finish, not so with the prosecution.

Ishmael

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

First of all your first and second sentences are ridiculous on the face of it. There is no assumption on my part, the facts preclude any assumption. Further Martin didn't HAVE to know that he'd evaded Zimmerman, he merely had to get home. I suppose that one could concoct a theory that Zimmerman was holding Martin pinned down with his pistol drawn, in a Weaver combat stance, while Martin chatted away with his GF in Miami. And if that were the case one would think that Martin might have mentioned it.

If you followed the transcript and the time line AND the investigators walk through, how Zimmerman spent those 4 min. was fully explained. You may choose not to accept that but the fact remains there was a full explanation on the part of the defense while the prosecution offered no credible explanation at all. The defenses story holds together from start to finish, not so with the prosecution.

Ishmael

If there were facts that showed what Martin was thinking I'm sure you would have offered them. In reality, those facts simply don't exist, making it an assumption on your part. Martin could not have known why Zimmerman was following him because Zimmerman never identified himself as part of the neighborhood watch, despite several opportunities to do so. While it's not illegal to fail to identify yourself, it was a huge mistake on Zimmerman's part.

When did Zimmerman explain why he was outside looking for Martin while also being afraid of him?