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[KingOrfeo]

Do you remember Harry Truman and FDR as butchers?

It is a shame nobody ever stood trial for the Dresden bombing (don't know how much personal responsibility FDR bore for that, however). I tend to judge the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings by a different standard, as they did bring a quick end to the war, and the alternative would have involved Allied troops invading the Home Islands while Japanese civilian militia tried to fight them with spears.

 

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[KingOrfeo]

When our government decides to up end 200 hundred years of history and take my freedom of choice concerning my health care, it's tyranny.

Canada is no tyranny hard or soft, and their UHC goes a lot further.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

When our government decides to up end 200 hundred years of history and take my freedom of choice concerning my health care, it's tyranny.

You're full of shit. That argument could be used to excuse any form of tyranny.

Problem being Washington forced healthcare on people.

 

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[KingOrfeo]

There's a such thing as soft and hard tyranny. People who lived in the Soviet Union probably had a whole different idea about what represented a tyranny than truly free people used to individual liberty. Why don't you get a clue?

You get a clue: Social democracy != tyranny hard or soft.

 

[KingOrfeo]

You didn't answer my question. Did you consider FDR and Truman butchers? Was LBJ a butcher?

The fire bombing of Tokyo produced more death than the either of the atomic bombings.

Yes, they were all butchers. Sometimes that's justified by circumstances and necessity, sometimes it isn't. No civilian casualties in Vietnam were so justified, and these drone-strikes in Pakistan certainly aren't.

 

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[Sean]

Your professional army wasn't as good as our farmers.

Then why did you need all those French troops and ships?

 

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[Sean Renaud]

You don't have a fucking clue about Vietnam and what happened there. When the enemy decides to dress as civilians and fight from villages and towns those collateral casualties are impossible to avoid. Talk to me no more about what I lived for three years.

Lucky for us Americans that the British didn't think that way.

 

[Sean]

Why did you need all of that American manpower, weapons, and money, to keep from having to learn German?

Battle of Britain was over before the Japanese fucked you up the arse. I suggest you learn some history.

 

[koalabear]

Battle of Britain was over before the Japanese fucked you up the arse. I suggest you learn some history.

You had already lost the war at Dunkirk.

 

[BotanyBoy]

My historical perspective goes back a little further than yours, youngster. The terms freedom and liberty are relative to the times, as far as I'm concerned you grew up with little of either.

True....which means the whole freedom and liberty bit died 30+ years ago.

It's over, we live in a corporate Oligarchy where you are forced to either buy from the gov or the company who bought off the government, or you go to prison.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Battle of Britain was over before the Japanese fucked you up the arse. I suggest you learn some history.

Speaking of history I don't know if you were aware or not but it was us who fucked Japan up the arse in case you didn't know. In fact we fucked the so god damn hard and bloody the entire world collectively shit it's pants in horror.

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[Sean]

You had already lost the war at Dunkirk.

And the traitors lost the American War of Independence at the Battle of Long Island, right?

 

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[KingOrfeo]

Lucky for us Americans that the British didn't think that way.

Joke British soldiers used to tell during WWII: "When the Germans fire, the British duck. When the British fire, the Germans duck. But when the Americans fire, everybody ducks."

 

[BotanyBoy]

So you're going to surrender to this tyranny eh?

Not any choice...stay here and buy their shit or leave, by far not the worst place to live so I deal.

If ever someone decides to just go ahead and bring this bitch crashing down....I won't complain

Either way I'm not buying liberty and living in a free society....that's the "Keep them happy" propaganda just like our "Voting" is.

 

[Sean]

I was thinking you were run off at Cowpens.

I suggest you explain to your bottom the difference between a battle and a war.

 

[koalabear]

And the traitors lost the American War of Independence at the Battle of Long Island, right?

Without the USA you would have lost it all. Not that it was worth the price.

 

[hogjack]

it was us who fucked Japan up the arse in case you didn't know.

That explains Hentai tentacle porn.