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i find it frightening. last week mom and i were talking about it, and she almost started crying. we've come so far, fought so hard, and now we're just running backwards.
 
i find it frightening. last week mom and i were talking about it, and she almost started crying. we've come so far, fought so hard, and now we're just running backwards.
i can't imagine how sad it must be for women of that generation, who fought and protested, who thought they had won and created a better world for their daughters.
 
I had a similar conversation with my mother, only there were a lot of expletives and no tears. She said it was the '60s all over again and she couldn't believe the dialog is the same. Very regressive. She also said that women will turn out in droves to vote those old fucks out of office. But I am not so sure that will happen. I hope for the best, vote for those who carry out a pro-woman agenda and spend my money on organizations that do the most good for us.
 
i think those times are gone. :(

Quite possibly. It may be that too many women simply don't care enough to do anything about it. Yet. Wait until the legislation requiring women have to be escorted by male members of their family to go out in public and maybe they'll get a fucking clue.

What I'd love to see is Boomer generation women taking to the streets and the assembly. That would be righteous. It was their work that gave us the rights we enjoy today. I look to them for leadership right now. Hoping it will happen in an organized way.
 
The GOP has taken a giant step backwards. It is not just women's rights under attack by the GOP it is freedom to worship as we please. Like many religious nutjobs they have turned scripture upside down to fit their own agenda. Christians say that Christianity is under attack by atheists. I disagree. I think the true attack is from within by those who have perverted scripture to conform to the stick they have up their own asses.

Islam is much the same way. I think you can liken the Extremist to the time of Europe Inquisition.

In both religions God is not the bad guy. Men use God as an excuse to commit atrocities. If God does exist and though I am unsure my heart hope he does just so those that corrupt Gods message to do evil burn for eternity.

I got side tracked but I agree with you that women rights as well as peoples freedoms are under attack world wide. God is getting a black eye but his words are not the culprit. It is the evil of man.

god's word has been used to oppress women for several millennium now... afterall, when the supposed word of god is only told to men (funny how that works), then they're clearly going to get some of the things wrong when they transcribe it.

It's like an extended game of telephone...

If god is all-knowing, and omnipresent, then why doesn't he just set up a printing press, and pump out bibles that everyone in the world can understand without a translator?

Wouldn't that make a little more sense than the convoluted structure that he's got going on now?

:rolleyes:
 
i can't imagine how sad it must be for women of that generation, who fought and protested, who thought they had won and created a better world for their daughters.

she said she was scared. scared how legislation was being passed through without much uproar.

I had a similar conversation with my mother, only there were a lot of expletives and no tears. She said it was the '60s all over again and she couldn't believe the dialog is the same. Very regressive. She also said that women will turn out in droves to vote those old fucks out of office. But I am not so sure that will happen. I hope for the best, vote for those who carry out a pro-woman agenda and spend my money on organizations that do the most good for us.

the women who support regressive legislation scare me. there are quite a few out there. in the name of jesus. *shakes head*

Quite possibly. It may be that too many women simply don't care enough to do anything about it. Yet. Wait until the legislation requiring women have to be escorted by male members of their family to go out in public and maybe they'll get a fucking clue.

What I'd love to see is Boomer generation women taking to the streets and the assembly. That would be righteous. It was their work that gave us the rights we enjoy today. I look to them for leadership right now. Hoping it will happen in an organized way.

i think organization must come from all of us, across generational lines. without it, it's only a matter of time before more rights are stripped.
 
I'd love to march with my mom. She was a trailblazer and a take no shit woman in her day.

An example: She got a great settlement from a class action lawsuit she and some of her co-workers filed because they all were fired when they hit their ninth month of pregnancy. That case was one of many that set precedent for hiring and firing policies for pregnant women. She was pregnant with me when she was fired. It happened again with my youngest sister.

They didn't ask for a cash payout and didn't get any. What they asked for was a return of benefits and to reinstate all their lost time. Most of them were rehired after the babies were born and after they took off a mandatory year.

My mom got an extra few years on her employment record, which let her retire on time.

That's the kind of shit I want to see, too. Banding together to stop the nonsense. Now I have ideas.
 
From a purely intellectual point of view, if I may be so callous for a minute, it's absolutely fascinating to see the way labels have been tuned on it's head the last few years in American discourse.

"Progressives" when in charge are acting conservatively. "Conservatives" when in charge are balls-to-the-walls radical and everyone not in charge at the moment is a reactionary.
 
Quite possibly. It may be that too many women simply don't care enough to do anything about it. Yet. Wait until the legislation requiring women have to be escorted by male members of their family to go out in public and maybe they'll get a fucking clue.

What I'd love to see is Boomer generation women taking to the streets and the assembly. That would be righteous. It was their work that gave us the rights we enjoy today. I look to them for leadership right now. Hoping it will happen in an organized way.
Don't expect there to be throngs in the streets. Women and men will more likely file quietly and calmly into the voting booths.
 
Don't expect there to be throngs in the streets. Women and men will more likely file quietly and calmly into the voting booths.
that was my first reaction,
but then i remembered the occupy wall street thing, the global protests that spread from it, the recent riots here.
there's still some fire left in us.
 
I'm torn on this. I understand patriarchal society perfectly well at the gut level. I've watched videos of women being strapped in Afghanistan for talking back or showing ankle or whatever and gotten wood.

On the other hand, would my proclivities really feel so sexy to me if I had an entire society backing them up, a society composed of RicK Santorum style douchebags?

Gonna have to go with a hung jury here. My head recognises that women's (and gay, and transsexual, and animal and probably one day robot) liberation is historically inevitable...a working out of the background rhetoric of freedom in our society. My balls strongly prefer the old ways.
 
I'd love to march with my mom. She was a trailblazer and a take no shit woman in her day.

An example: She got a great settlement from a class action lawsuit she and some of her co-workers filed because they all were fired when they hit their ninth month of pregnancy. That case was one of many that set precedent for hiring and firing policies for pregnant women. She was pregnant with me when she was fired. It happened again with my youngest sister.

They didn't ask for a cash payout and didn't get any. What they asked for was a return of benefits and to reinstate all their lost time. Most of them were rehired after the babies were born and after they took off a mandatory year.

My mom got an extra few years on her employment record, which let her retire on time.

That's the kind of shit I want to see, too. Banding together to stop the nonsense. Now I have ideas.

Except it really should be okay to fire workers who are going to be taking that long off. IT my bussiness not a charity. Hit the bricks and I'll find someone to do your job while you go do that mommy thing that's apparently all the rage.

It's one of those issues I'm kinda torn on. My honest opinion is you shouldn't have kids if you can't afford to be a stay at home mom. Sadly I recognize we don't live in a world where that is always possible but still.
 
I'm torn on this. I understand patriarchal society perfectly well at the gut level. I've watched videos of women being strapped in Afghanistan for talking back or showing ankle or whatever and gotten wood.

On the other hand, would my proclivities really feel so sexy to me if I had an entire society backing them up, a society composed of RicK Santorum style douchebags?

Gonna have to go with a hung jury here. My head recognises that women's (and gay, and transsexual, and animal and probably one day robot) liberation is historically inevitable...a working out of the background rhetoric of freedom in our society. My balls strongly prefer the old ways.

Am I reading this correctly? Maybe I'm not???
 
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