What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

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here is merc, "We need more welfare....more entitlements....people shouldn't have to work"


having a job is inhumane, right?

I can't speak for him, but I do believe the point was that over 50% of our national debt can be attributed to wars and Bush tax cuts. Not quite sure where you are getting the "more welfare, entitlements..."ect. If you disagree with this graph, provide some evidence to the contrary. Otherwise, why quote it and talk about something else?
 
someone please help me understand how obama, and his ring of socialist are enabling this entitlement nation?

did American's use to take pride in their work?

and now, under obama, democrats are taking pride in fucking-over America?
 
I can't speak for him, but I do believe the point was that over 50% of our national debt can be attributed to wars and Bush tax cuts. Not quite sure where you are getting the "more welfare, entitlements..."ect. If you disagree with this graph, provide some evidence to the contrary. Otherwise, why quote it and talk about something else?


can't defend the wars, nor would I want to

but the tax cuts - these fucktards will just blow the money. so I think American's are better off keeping their OWN money.

we have over 50% of American's not paying income tax this year. why don't THEY pay their fairshare?

we have what, 60% of American's on some type of government aide?

do you support America as the land of entitlements?

I thought we American's took pride in our work ethic and getting things done, not sitting on our ass and waiting for the obama welfare check
 
NeverEndingMe doesn't actually believe in capitalism. Most republicans don't. That's where the problem lies Dribble. They believe in a mutation of fuedalism. They do think that it is right and proper for the rich to rule over the rest of us.
 
NeverEndingMe doesn't actually believe in capitalism. Most republicans don't. That's where the problem lies Dribble. They believe in a mutation of fuedalism. They do think that it is right and proper for the rich to rule over the rest of us.

"She" obviously doesn't understand the simple concept of debt creation. Instead of focusing on the obvious and fixable causes of over 50% of our debt, "she" would rather focus on issues far more complex that will take alot of negotiation to fix. See, everyone wants their entitlements...just cut someone elses and we will be ok
 
I can't speak for him, but I do believe the point was that over 50% of our national debt can be attributed to wars and Bush tax cuts. Not quite sure where you are getting the "more welfare, entitlements..."ect. If you disagree with this graph, provide some evidence to the contrary. Otherwise, why quote it and talk about something else?


also, we don't have enough 1% people to make a difference. So Merc, Richard, SeanR/SeanH, UD...and the socialist can rant about more taxes but we are talking pennies as the jackass obama spends like a crack whore blowing through billions of dollars
 
NeverEndingMe doesn't actually believe in capitalism. Most republicans don't. That's where the problem lies Dribble. They believe in a mutation of fuedalism. They do think that it is right and proper for the rich to rule over the rest of us.


clearly you smoking crack again, or smoking seanH crack.

you just want a free ride, admit it

admit that you are not able to make it on your own. that you don't have the skills or intelligence to operate a business
 
"She" obviously doesn't understand the simple concept of debt creation. Instead of focusing on the obvious and fixable causes of over 50% of our debt, "she" would rather focus on issues far more complex that will take alot of negotiation to fix. See, everyone wants their entitlements...just cut someone elses and we will be ok


we can't tax our way out of this
 
also, we don't have enough 1% people to make a difference. So Merc, Richard, SeanR/SeanH, UD...and the socialist can rant about more taxes but we are talking pennies as the jackass obama spends like a crack whore blowing through billions of dollars

If the graph is correct, and I suspect it is fairly accurate (it may be 10% off one way or another), then eliminating the 2 primary causes of the debt will by its nature, reduce the debt. This is how it works.
 
If the graph is correct, and I suspect it is fairly accurate (it may be 10% off one way or another), then eliminating the 2 primary causes of the debt will by its nature, reduce the debt. This is how it works.

we need more money in people's pockets. we need more start up companies. we need companies to expand. we need less government. we need to eliminate welfare. we need to eliminate unemployment bennies. we need to fire 1/3 of government workers. we need to end obama's wars and we need to make sure obama doesn't start any new wars

we need to stop the obama spending machine

obama is in way over his head. more government is like adding more water to a boat. sooner or later the boat sinks. obama is sinking America. Don't you see that?
 
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we can't tax our way out of this

who said we should?

Is eliminating a tax "break" a new tax? Or is it a re-establishment of an existing tax that people are paying for?

Is funding a war a tax break?

Once you fix these 2 factors, which are accounting for over half of our debt, then you focus on cutting the "entitlement" programs so they become self-funding.

The problem with stupid people is that they don't understand that some debt is good. It does however, need to be reasonable and right now it isn't because of 2 factors...the Bush tax cuts and stupid wars that can't be won.
 
who said we should?

Is eliminating a tax "break" a new tax? Or is it a re-establishment of an existing tax that people are paying for?

Is funding a war a tax break?

Once you fix these 2 factors, which are accounting for over half of our debt, then you focus on cutting the "entitlement" programs so they become self-funding.

The problem with stupid people is that they don't understand that some debt is good. It does however, need to be reasonable and right now it isn't because of 2 factors...the Bush tax cuts and stupid wars that can't be won.


holly shit!

obama is adding water to a row boat. the boat is 1/2 filled up with water. guess what will happen as the obama adds more water!


tax cuts are good!

you have to remember, government is where the stupid people go to work
(as they are unqualified to work in the private sector).

Are you a government worker? you sound like one
 
we need more money in people's pockets. we need more start up companies. we need companies to expand. we need less government. we need to eliminate welfare. we need to eliminate unemployment bennies. we need to fire 1/3 of government workers. we need to end obama's wars and we need to make sure obama doesn't start any new wars

we need to stop the obama spending machine

obama is in way over his head. more government is like adding more water to a boat. sooner or later the boat sinks. obama is sinking America. Don't you see that?

This stuff existed before Obama. This stuff existed with GW and before GW. But what did GW add to this amount? Tax cuts and wars. THAT is what is sinking America. Don't you see that?
 
This stuff existed before Obama. This stuff existed with GW and before GW. But what did GW add to this amount? Tax cuts and wars. THAT is what is sinking America. Don't you see that?

looking back, we should never have started the 2 Bush wars. Cant change that.

Bush tax cuts, we need to keep that.

we also need to drop corporate income tax to 15%
 
This stuff existed before Obama. This stuff existed with GW and before GW. But what did GW add to this amount? Tax cuts and wars. THAT is what is sinking America. Don't you see that?

government is never the solution. government is the problem

obama is like Whitney Houston. he's an addict to spending money. only obama won't kill himself, obama is killing America
 
holly shit!

obama is adding water to a row boat. the boat is 1/2 filled up with water. guess what will happen as the obama adds more water!


tax cuts are good!

you have to remember, government is where the stupid people go to work
(as they are unqualified to work in the private sector).

Are you a government worker? you sound like one

We've covered this before...no I do not work for the Gov't, however I do have several Gov't contracts that are nice. If, however, someone can do what I do for less, they can make their bid and take those contracts.

Tax cuts are good...if they don't increase your debt.
 
We've covered this before...no I do not work for the Gov't, however I do have several Gov't contracts that are nice. If, however, someone can do what I do for less, they can make their bid and take those contracts.

Tax cuts are good...if they don't increase your debt.

It's the spending that's gone way up so I say cut the spending first before we start talking about changing the tax structures.
 
government is never the solution. government is the problem

obama is like Whitney Houston. he's an addict to spending money. only obama won't kill himself, obama is killing America

Say if often enough and it will come true...say it often enough it will come true...say it often enough and it will come true.
 
It's the spending that's gone way up so I say cut the spending first before we start talking about changing the tax structures.

Actually, spending has been passed year after year as part of a continuing resolution. Actual amounts of money going to any single program has remained stable (or cut) except for the military. What has increased is the interest being paid to fund things that we didn't have the money to pay for, such as wars and tax breaks to the rich.
 
This stuff existed before Obama. This stuff existed with GW and before GW. But what did GW add to this amount? Tax cuts and wars. THAT is what is sinking America. Don't you see that?

The reductions in marginal tax rates on income and cap gains stimulated investment spending and helped us recover from the economic shock caused by 9/11. Our annual deficits were coming down and our economy perking along (we got to 4.6% unemployment) before Pelosi and Reid got leadership positions in congress and started pushing spending up significantly. The marginal rate tax cuts stimulated business, got more people employed and INCREASED net tax revenues also. Marginal tax reductions HELPED the economy.

I say reduce spending, stabilize regulation and stop scapegoating business and our economy will improve more quickly than it is under this administration.

If we increase taxes, we'll retard growth and will have to continue to pay lots and lots of people to not work.

The democrats have it backwards and they're causing these economic doldrums to continue.
 
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