I miss George Bush

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If he had pulled half the stunts that Barack Obama has pulled with the help of Harry Reid since Thanksgiving...




We'd be having us some lively political conversations today.

Thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread...

Now, all we get are ~tumbleweeds~...

:) Shit Happens!
 
I think history will be kind to GWB.

The Iraq war will have a huge impact on his legacy, but I don't think the invasion will go down as a blunder; the dismantlement of the Iraqi army will though, and that was Bremmer's call (although when you sit in the big chair, you are responsible).

Domestically I think he was pretty good, and he was better than average on foreign policy.
 
I think history will be kind to GWB.

The Iraq war will have a huge impact on his legacy, but I don't think the invasion will go down as a blunder; the dismantlement of the Iraqi army will though, and that was Bremmer's call (although when you sit in the big chair, you are responsible).

Domestically I think he was pretty good, and he was better than average on foreign policy.

I agree
Look at Clinton
His presidency was full on scandal and bitter party feuding

and already people get a hazy " those were good times"
look when they talk about his terms in office.
 
Yeah sure, they were dismantled as an "Army" in detail on the fucking battlefield. Maybe you don't understand.

You should read more.

Start with Tenet's book, then move on to the editorials Bremmer has written, and compare the two with what happened on the ground. Because it's clear you have a single-minded focus on military action, rather than the political and diplomatic efforts I am talking about.
 
I don't have to, I already know how it all happened, and I read and understood the Constitution as a youth. Tenet is probably one of the reasons we got into that whole mess to start with.

Are you drunk?


What in the world does your understanding of the Constitution have to do with the decision to dismantle the Iraqi military?

If you want to post just to post, please don't quote me. It makes me look stupid for trying to understand what you are talking about.
 
Are you drunk?


What in the world does your understanding of the Constitution have to do with the decision to dismantle the Iraqi military?

If you want to post just to post, please don't quote me. It makes me look stupid for trying to understand what you are talking about.

I am moving this post into JAJ's "post of the year" thread.
 
We'd have an impeachment on our hands.

Mark Levin was right on when he characterized Obama's explanation of his so called recess appointments as the "forthright statement of a dictator." Even the ACLU announced a lawsuit this morning.



Yes, because all dictators request legislatures to vote on their nominees.

Nothing in the Constitution empowers a minority of the Senate to keep an executive branch agency from doing its job.
 
Your out of your league as far as intellectual understanding goes. I told you how the Iraqi Army was dismantled, Bremmer did not command the U.S. Military, the President is the CinC. Maybe you should have used other terms to describe his actions.

You're.
 
Your out of your league as far as intellectual understanding goes. I told you how the Iraqi Army was dismantled, Bremmer did not command the U.S. Military, the President is the CinC. Maybe you should have used other terms to describe his actions.

:rolleyes:

Aardvarks are green!
 
This whole thing is about appointing Cordray?

How is hiring someone to do a job.. a job that was created by CONGRESS
overstepping this power?
 
Shut up you stupid dummy. The rules of the Senate are the Senate's rules, interpreting them is their prerogative, and their prerogative alone. The Senate was in session. The President acted illegally, period.

Oh, and tell your stupid mentor Obama that when the Congress "fails" to act, they are exercising "their" constitutional power and prerogatives under the Constitution.

The Senate was not is secession

They showed up for all of 60 seconds
In the hopes that that would count so the
President couldn't use his legal authority
to appoint someone..

I haven't even heard any real objections to the nominee
this is about the republican party not wanting the CFPB
and misusing their power in order to block the agency from
getting off the ground.
 
Shut up you stupid dummy. The rules of the Senate are the Senate's rules, interpreting them is their prerogative, and their prerogative alone. The Senate was in session. The President acted illegally, period.

Oh, and tell your stupid mentor Obama that when the Congress "fails" to act, they are exercising "their" constitutional power and prerogatives under the Constitution.


So in theory, the Senate could simply refuse to hold a vote to confirm ANY executive branch nominee or nominee for the federal bench until the end of time, if 40 out of 100 say it should be so? This isn't very logical, is it?

The Senate can vote not to confirm a president's nominations, and has used the filibuster on occasion to defeat nominations. This is certainly not in dispute. What has never been done till now is to say in effect, "There are at least 40 senators who don't believe this particular office should exist--even though it actually does exist--and therefore we will never allow a vote for any nominee to fill this post, no matter who it is."

I think Obama will be on solid ground if he makes this case to the American people (and Cordray, whose career I've followed for a good 25 years and is the farthest thing from a liberal bomb-thrower, is going to be a sympathetic figure). Maybe we'll get an answer in the November election--you know elections, those things that "dictators" engage in all the time.
 
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