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[scouries]

I’m james r scouries esq. and everyone eventually comes into my world!

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[size=+2]james r scouries esq.[/size]
Multiple A.I.R. AWARD winner, MILLION SELLER,
Author of the MOST COMMENTED on
and the MOST VOTED on story on LITEROTICA

 

[scouries]

To set the record straight... This post was made way back in 2007. I know darkboy has read it and studied it. And commented on it. He understands my position. Which makes one ask oneself why he'd try to misrepresent my position.

Toadies and lackies never seem to change...

FYI the ideas in the following 2007 post still sound pretty good to me!

[size=+2]james r scouries esq.[/size]
MANU Award Winner
Multiple A.I.R. AWARD winner, MILLION SELLER,
Author of the MOST COMMENTED on
and the MOST VOTED on story on LITEROTICA


[size=+2]ON CONTESTS #1[/size] On Fixing Literotica’s Monthly Contest System

The Problem:

Did you know that, of the 72 monthly contest winners (1st , 2nd, and 3rd places) announced for 2005 and 2006, 35 were ‘Romance’ category stories and 19 were ‘Novels and Novellas’ category stories? In other words 75% of the winners came from two categories that represent only about 9% of the stories submitted. And to a large extent the winners in these categories were a chapter 2 or 3 or some other later chapter in a series and usually the winners have under 100 votes and limited reads. What the hell’s going on?

The seven categories with the most submitted stories in them (Erotic Coupling, Incest, Loving Wives, BDSM, Non-Consent, Group, and Exhibitionism), more than 67% of the stories submitted to Literotica, some 20,000 stories in 2005 and 2006, produced a pitiful total of only 3 winners (4% of winners) over the two years. Shee-it, can’t we spread the wealth around some?

Scouries Suggestion to Bring Fairness, Honesty and Good Will to the Monthly Contests

1 – Each month 4 prizes would be awarded
2 – One prize would go to the highest rated story, one to the most viewed story, one to the story with the most votes, and the final prize would go to the story which received the most comments.
3 – A category can only win once every quarter (in other words if an Incest or Romance story wins in January, no Incest or Romance stories can win in February or March)
4 – An author can only win once a year

The hoped for results of this system:
- A fairer distribution of the prizes over all the Literotica categories;
- A much broader group of writers will have a chance to win a prize;
- A recognition on our part that stories that are popular with our readers might be good choices as winners. Maybe, just maybe, resulting in more attention from our readers to contest winning stories;
- An improvement in the mental health of Literotica’s authors. Not living and dying with every vote almost certainly will reduce the level of paranoia among us;
-Happiness will reign in the kingdom

 

[lovecraft68]

Yep, I'm on the feedback portal frequently when I'm home. It's a nice, regularly updated interlude to check out during commercials or writing breaks, full of entertainment, and often pointing to good reading for later. All the interesting tidbits like scouries pitiful pumping of his stats and craziness like the professional commenters is just picked up in the peripheral vision.

What's it matter? Exposing the abundance of bullshit and lack of ethics demonstrated by egomaniacs espousing conspiracy theories ensures that people know who they're dealing with when one of these con-men tries to recruit them into the "noble cause" of promoting their own sense of greatness.

Of course, a few still get snookered in, don't they? Oh well, can't win them all. Some are just born wearing a tinfoil hat, I guess

Gotta love the "get a life" comments. Like so many of of the blind jabs y'all throw, it's pretty pointless when it's either completely off the mark, or what you consider a zinger is a compliment, as far as I'm concerned. You wouldn't believe me if I told you - unless you saw the pics and videos *laugh*

Stalker, huh? Why was it that you're here again... Oh, yeah, that's right.

That's another thing you have in common with your new buddies - living in a glass house.

Goodnight, and have a pleasant tomorrow.

That Paragraph I put in bold is some heavy shit. Read as a stand alone people would think you are discussing something political or of great importance.

Con men? recruiting? Noble cause? Maybe it's me, maybe I'm missing something, but This is a free story site. I don't know what people are being recruited into or any causes that exist here except a bunch of people writing for whatever their own personal reasons are to fight.

AS for the getting a life crack? Becoming obsessed with stuff like this leads me to think that you could be focused on some more important, or fun things. See you are committing the cardinal sin of "feeding the troll" by constantly attacking Scouries you are giving him attention.

Admittedly I read a few of his stories just because he was so maligned it got me curious. Honestly I don't find them very good, but whose to say mine are that much better.

Bottom line is it is human nature to want to see "what all the fuss is about" and you are leading the campaign to make that fuss. You are giving him exactly what he needs to keep launching his own stuff. Youare providing him wit ha persecution complex and all great ego maniacs thrive on.

I just don't get what the guy is doing so wrong that he needs to be "exposed" and who are you exposing him to? Most people here pretty much know the score.

So that is the origin of my get a life comments. And please spare me pictures and videos I have no need to see what exciting things you are involved in, just as you would have no desire to see what my idea of fun is. Remember dirty little secrets are more fun when they're kept secret.

 

[TxRad]

Keep whining about the number of votes, views, and comments scouries. They are too easy to manipulate as you well know and do all the time. The only way you are ever going to win a contest is to actually write a story that the real readers, not your alts and bullshit, like.


[SIZE=+4]Welcome to ScouriesFantasyWorld[/SIZE]

Home of LITEROTICA’S GREATEST FRAUD

Where Scouries ego is the one and only thing that counts.

 

[Darkniciad]

Ah, yes. The rare con post you make to try to legitimize your constant rants by espousing concern for the readers and other authors.

Anyone looking at your real track record will see one thing clearly: The only categories you see as legitimate are the few you write in, and all of your little "improvements" for "fairness" are custom made to tip the scales in your favor. Big surprise, huh? A look at your own fake contest ( which *gasp* you win every time you write a story! ) shows quite well what your goals are.

Keep on pretending, scouries. Romance has always been huge, and if you can't understand why it does well... Well, that explains quite a few things in and of itself. The other categories you hate so much and constantly cry about are growing rapidly in submissions, views, votes, comments, favorites, and all the stats you love to assign so much value to.

The readership of Lit is discovering the little niches, and they're liking what they find.

It's yet another threat to your inflated opinion of yourself, and you can't stand it.

Your whole argument - skewed and lacking in scruples as it is - hinges on one thing and one thing only: the words "Reader's Choice". The site defines it one way ( score ) and you define it another ( hits ).

 

[michchick98]

Anyone looking at your real track record will see one thing clearly: The only categories you see as legitimate are the few you write in, and all of your little "improvements" for "fairness" are custom made to tip the scales in your favor. Big surprise, huh? A look at your own fake contest ( which *gasp* you win every time you write a story! ) shows quite well what your goals are.

And for all his ranting and jumping up and down about how unfair it is that "the same people" win the Literotica contests all the time, it sure is ironic that "the same people" win his fake contest too. Of course, scouries goes to the school of "It's okay for me but not for you."

 

[michchick98]

I just don't get what the guy is doing so wrong that he needs to be "exposed" and who are you exposing him to? Most people here pretty much know the score.

How about the fact that for years, he's accused the site owners here of cheating. How about the fact that for years, he's insulted and belittled several great authors on this site, causing many to leave and not come back. How bout the fact that if anyone doesn't agree with him, he insults and belittles them to make himself feel better. How about the fact that he claims he earns money writing for this site, he claims Laurel consults him about administrative issues, but then he turns right around and accuses her of cheating.

And I won't even get into the whole thing with Selena Kitt a couple years ago.

Scouries has earned every harsh word and ass feeding he gets. He's alienated too many people here for far too long. Even if he did apologize, which will never happen, he would never be forgiven.

So, before you go defending him and asking what he's done that's so bad, you should really do some research on who you're defending. If you don't like what we're saying about him, fine, don't read it. But like I said, don't defend him when you know nothing of what he's done.

 

[Darkniciad]

Yah, I covered that in an earlier post somewhere else. Pretty much everything scouries complains about is giant buckets of contradicting, hypocritical hogwash sprinkled with cherry-picked examples, buzz-words, and genuine complaints that he's appropriated as his exclusive property ( like chapter stories having an unfair advantage over one-shots ) despite the complaints having been around for years before he ever showed up.

If it wasn't for the fact that some are actually gullible enough to fall for it and create a growing problem, he could easily be relegated to the laugh bin.

He should be around soon, once he finishes commenting on a half dozen of his own stories

 

[scouries]

More on darkboys misleading numbers:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kgbLrIYGZe0/S8t7xro9cvI/AAAAAAAAA-E/aaOaDwY6jzY/S270/DarkBoy.jpg
Boy mathematician…

For those who may have been confused by db’s post the actual numbers for 2010 are:

Non Human/Sci Fi – 11
Romance – 7
Gay – 6
Group – 3
Interracial – 2
Incest – 2
+ 5 categories with one (BDSM/Celeb/Fetish/EC/Novels)

Non Human/Sci Fi stories (or should I say chapters) won 30+% of the prizes! Gay and Romance won another 35+% of the prizes. Give me a break!!!!

The seven categories which receive most submissions (Erotic Coupling, Incest, Loving Wives, BDSM, Non-Consent, Group, and Exhibitionism), more than 67% of the stories submitted to Literotica, won 7 of the 36 prizes – or a measly 19+%. In other words less than one third of the prizes that one would expect.

And yes this is a small improvement from the 2006/7 period. Probably because I embarrassed her highness by publically pointing out the disparity.

Strangely, our mathematical genius darkboy forgot to point out the huge discrepancy in the percentage of stories in the various categories that won. And he has no excuse for his deception – the brilliant owlwhispers number stories had already shown him the way.

I am glad that in his most recent post he mentioned the “chapter” problem. In 2010 the trend was continued – 29 out of the 36 winners were chapters – not complete stories. He does seem to be acknowledging the problem I’ve worked to correct for the last five years. But then he takes a shot at me. Huh?

My position is on this question is this – A chapter should not be eligible for “Readers Choice Stories of the Month”. No exceptions. No bullshit. What’s your position darkboy?

Another of my beliefs is that the prizes should be awarded in a timely manner. There is absolutely no reason a monthly award can’t be announced within the first ten days of the following month.

And finally our darkboy wandered into the definition of what is the choice of our readers.

This from a supposed mathematician who produced a list of winning stories without mentioning how many views, votes and comments the winning stories received. The low totals of views, votes and comments for some of the winners are shockingly low. Embarrassingly low. Another purposeful omission made to confuse thread readers.

All in all a pitiful performance by a dishonest boy! Maybe LAUREL will put the miscreant toady in her doghouse for a while…
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[size=+2]james r scouries esq.[/size]
Multiple A.I.R. AWARD winner, MILLION SELLER,
Author of the MOST COMMENTED on
and the MOST VOTED on story on LITEROTICA

 

[Darkniciad]

I presented the numbers from the beginning -- everything. Isn't that what you're always harping about? Show all the numbers!

Unless it doesn't support your position. Then you cherry pick, grabbing a single year and ignoring everything that flies in the face of your self-serving suppositions.

I stated my position on chapters in the monthly contests long, long ago. Only complete stories should be eligible. Unlike you, I provided an actual plan by which that could be accomplished without punishing people who write long stories. Looking at what Manu has been doing recently, similar ideas are going into place, with more to come.

Solutions, scouries. Real world, sensible solutions to actual problems, not the monsters in the closet you conjure up.

Owlwhisper's numbers were in relation to the percentage of winners compared to the number of stories in the category. Are you saying that quantity matters? Because there are more stories in a category, there should be more winners? Weren't you just harping exactly the opposite about your former best buddy Freddie only a few minutes ago? Quality over quantity?

It was interesting information, but completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, and unfortunately, no longer available on the website. I discovered that, to my dismay, while compiling the full listing of winners by category that you choose to ignore because it completely undermines your conspiracy theory.

You can run from the truth like a vampire from a crucifix all you want. Reality is still there in black and white, linked for anyone else to examine and confirm if they so choose.

And what they'll find if they do shows you for what you are -- a fraud

 

[sr71plt]

I stated my position on chapters in the monthly contests long, long ago. Only complete stories should be eligible. Unlike you, I provided an actual plan by which that could be accomplished without punishing people who write long stories. Looking at what Manu has been doing recently, similar ideas are going into place, with more to come.

I think I was suggesting this before Scouries picked it up as well. Chaptered works aren't stories until they are complete. Thus, I don't think they should register until they do--and then their ranking/views could be given as an average. This would be hard for the system to keep track of--but I think it would put the works of folks who can't come to an end where they belong.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

I didn't want to do this, but it's time we pulled off the mask of the masked man.

I have it on good authority who the Dark one is. Are you ready?

Darkniciad is...

Manu.

Of course, Scouries is...

Laurel.

Me? I'm just myself, the one and only, BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, AndTheEnd, CarBuffStuff, PositiveThinker, WmForrester, and SuperHeroRalph.

The point is, we have no idea who the Hell anyone is around here. Scouries could be everyone for all we know. He could be the grand puppetmaster making all his little sock puppets dance, while entertaining everyone.

If you ask me too many around here doth protest too much.

 

[Darkniciad]

I think I was suggesting this before Scouries picked it up as well. Chaptered works aren't stories until they are complete. Thus, I don't think they should register until they do--and then their ranking/views could be given as an average. This would be hard for the system to keep track of--but I think it would put the works of folks who can't come to an end where they belong.

Yep, and it was going on long before I ever arrived here as well. TXRad probably remembers when the other site closed down, chapter stories took off here in large numbers, and the complaints began.

People screamed at me when I said average for the score, demanding a median.

I thought it would probably make people complain because the formula is more complex, where pretty much anybody can add a column of numbers and divide, thus seeing the same result. I can see the argument for median over average, because it is a more pure number.

Still, from what I've tested ( and in my own personal numbers ) it results in a higher score than the average. The only place in my own numbers where that doesn't happen ( .01 lower for the median ) is when I take a group of unrelated, one-shot stories and do the math.

When it was being thrown at me, people were producing columns of numbers and the results, but when applied to real Lit numbers, it typically goes higher than the average, which may very well cause people to whine about "mysterious math", leaving us with yet another spot for conspiracy theorists like the king of the land of make believe here to continue manufacturing monsters from closet shadows.

Just have to see where Manu's going with the groundwork he's put down, and hope that he opens it up for feedback before going live.

****

As to Freddie... Do you really think you, scouries, sarahhh, and all your alts would exist any longer on this site if I had anything to do with running it? I'd have long ago zeroed out all your story statistics, given you a day or so to whine about it for everyone's amusement, posted a list of all your alts, then deleted and banned the lot of you.

If it was my house, I'd take out the garbage.

Lest we forget, despite all your indignant screaming about cheaters and alts, you are the one and only person on the site who can be proven to have used alts to collect multiple prizes in violation of the rules of the contest.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

Yep, and it was going on long before I ever arrived here as well. TXRad probably remembers when the other site closed down, chapter stories took off here in large numbers, and the complaints began.

People screamed at me when I said average for the score, demanding a median.

I thought it would probably make people complain because the formula is more complex, where pretty much anybody can add a column of numbers and divide, thus seeing the same result. I can see the argument for median over average, because it is a more pure number.

Still, from what I've tested ( and in my own personal numbers ) it results in a higher score than the average. The only place in my own numbers where that doesn't happen ( .01 lower for the median ) is when I take a group of unrelated, one-shot stories and do the math.

When it was being thrown at me, people were producing columns of numbers and the results, but when applied to real Lit numbers, it typically goes higher than the average, which may very well cause people to whine about "mysterious math", leaving us with yet another spot for conspiracy theorists like the king of the land of make believe here to continue manufacturing monsters from closet shadows.

Just have to see where Manu's going with the groundwork he's put down, and hope that he opens it up for feedback before going live.

****

As to Freddie... Do you really think you, scouries, sarahhh, and all your alts would exist any longer on this site if I had anything to do with running it? I'd have long ago zeroed out all your story statistics, given you a day or so to whine about it for everyone's amusement, posted a list of all your alts, then deleted and banned the lot of you.

If it was my house, I'd take out the garbage.

Ah, but certainly you understand that just as I cannot rid myself of you, you cannot rid myself of me. You are me or is it, I am you. Anyway, we are one in the same person, are we not?

Just as you are everyone, just as Scouries is everyone, I am everyone, too. Me, you, and Scouries are the same person.

We are all alts of one another. It's time Dark that we all confessed. It's time that we all unmasked ourselves. It's time we stopped playing this silly game.

 

[Darkniciad]

*golf clap* You found a new way to use your old "you see BFW everywhere. I don't have any alts" rant. Good for you.

Way to scream, "Don't look at the fact that I'm the only one actually doing all the things I accuse everyone else of doing without a smidgen of proof!"

There's another thing I could do, if I actually ran the site. I could lock you out of editing the places where you claim you don't have any alts, then admit to your alts, combine the results of that contest where you took multiple places in violation of the rules, and then delete you under the fully legitimate reasoning that you're a proven liar and cheat who stole someone else's rightful place in the contest results.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

*golf clap* You found a new way to use your old "you see BFW everywhere. I don't have any alts" rant. Good for you.

Way to scream, "Don't look at the fact that I'm the only one actually doing all the things I accuse everyone else of doing without a smidgen of proof!"

There's another thing I could do, if I actually ran the site. I could lock you out of editing the places where you claim you don't have any alts, then admit to your alts, combine the results of that contest where you took multiple places in violation of the rules, and then delete you under the fully legitimate reasoning that you're a proven liar and cheat who stole someone else's rightful place in the contest results.

Ah, yes, you found me, I mean, you out. We are Mungo Park III, PrincessErin, BakeBoss, BostonFictionWriter, and others. Yet, why stop there? Tell them all of your alts, as I've identified so many of my alts.


The truth of the matter though, isn't this foolishly redundant, Dark? We're the same person arguing with one another over alts we know we both are but pretend we're not.

Listen, you go one without me, okay? I have better things to do with my time that to play puppet show with you.

Suffice that I'm trying to do the right thing by exposing us all, you, me, and Scouries. I'm tired of playing Sybil. Perhaps, if you took your medication again, you'd want to end this alt charade, too.

 

[Darkniciad]

In fact, why don't we just put that in black and white right now, and everywhere you complain about alts and cheaters from now on.

I've written stories under Andtheend in 2010, such as Spending My Summer Stripping Mother and under WmForrester in 2009 with the hugely favorite, I Love You Mommy, the most read story in all of 2010. In 2009, I also wrote stories as CarBuffStuff and PositiveThinker. Lastly, I wrote as BostonFictionwriter in 2007 & 2008

6th- to 15th-Placed Survivors ($25 Amazon.com gift certificate)
www : 193 : PositiveThinker
www : 101 : PrincessErin
www : 083 : al_Ussa
www : 074 : YoursSINSerely
www : 057 : Angelscuck
www : 053 : LadynStFreknBed
www : 047 : PrinceThelo
www : 036 : ClaudetteLauzon
www : 036 : bb_peaks
www : 035 : WmForrester

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

In fact, why don't we just put that in black and white right now, and everywhere you complain about alts and cheaters from now on.

I bet you didn't know that if I had combined PositiveThinker, CarBuffStuff, and Wmforrester that I would have won a much bigger prize than the two $25 gift certificates, but I'm not telling you anything that you don't know. You're only embarrassing yourself, Darkniciad.

C'mon, fess up, Dark. Let's tell everyone that we're the same person. It's time. Let's stop these silly games pretending to be adversaries, when we're the same person.

Listen, I'll confesss if you will. Oh, never mind, I just did.

Do you want to tell them about all your other alts or should I?

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

In fact, why don't we just put that in black and white right now, and everywhere you complain about alts and cheaters from now on.

What else do you have, Dark? Me winning two $25 gift certificates. Is that your big expose? I've already apologized to Laurel for my inadvertent error. I apologize if I didn't memorize the contest rules. Besides, I donate my winnings to charity.

So, shall I tell everyone all of our alts or do you want to do that. I think by now that most people around here know you are just a woodsie copy and paste writer. There's a lot of smart people around here. All they have to do is to read a selection of your stories to realize that you're the biggest fraud and phony on this site.

C'mon, tell everyone about your office cleaning business and how you have access to hundreds of computers each week, which is how you earned all of those Red H's for average quality stories, at best.

Don't you feel foolish now accusing everyone of cheating, when you're the biggest cheater here. Tell me Dark, if I was a cheater, wouldn't I have a page full of red H's as you do and a page of Green E's as the pilot does. Everyone knows that you two are the same people, both light in the loafers and daft in the head.

What else do you have Dark? Is that it? Are you done? I'm the most honest writer on this site. I just write stories. You sing songs. You dance to a different kind of music with all the games that you play. It's time you stopped the charade and told everyone the truth. C'mon, tell everyone who you are or I will.

 

[Darkniciad]

Spin it any way you want. Someone who would have collected a prize didn't because of your cheating via the use of alts. You pushed a legitimate winner off the board.

You, the only person who can actually be shown to have done so, spend an awful lot of time accusing others of it, don't you?

"Don't look at the man behind the curtain!"

Oh, I encourage everyone to read a selection of my stories every time you spout off about how "crappy" my writing is and how I "copy paste". It typically results in a favorites and voting surge.

 

[scouries]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kgbLrIYGZe0/S8t7xro9cvI/AAAAAAAAA-E/aaOaDwY6jzY/S270/DarkBoy.jpg

I presented the numbers from the beginning -- everything. Isn't that what you're always harping about? Show all the numbers! …Owlwhisper's numbers were in relation to the percentage of winners compared to the number of stories in the category. Are you saying that quantity matters?... I discovered that, to my dismay, while compiling the full listing of winners by category that you choose to ignore because it completely undermines your conspiracy theory.

Don’t be silly. You presented figures you hoped would fool some readers. Since you’ve apparently done the groundwork I’d be delighted to see the breakdown by year. Just list them by year and we’ll all be able to understand the trends.

And don’t try to confuse people further by this ludicrous owlwhisper argument. The owlman’s figures showed two things quite conclusively – one, that certain categories receive higher ratings than other categories. And it has nothing to do with quality (and you darkboy know it!).

Second, the categories that receive higher ratings invariably receive a higher percentage of winners than other categories (another fact you know so don’t pretend otherwise).

Only complete stories should be eligible. Unlike you, I provided an actual plan by which that could be accomplished without punishing people who write long stories. Looking at what Manu has been doing recently, similar ideas are going into place, with more to come… Just have to see where Manu's going with the groundwork he's put down, and hope that he opens it up for feedback before going live.

Well, we agree on one thing – only complete stories should be eligible! However, as I remember it your plan was so complicated no one could understand it. My solution was quite clear – remember they’re called monthly contests. This means to my mind that the complete story has to come out in one month to be eligible (whether submitted whole or in chapters). If it’s a chaptered story every vote received for the various chapters would count subject to the sweep the QUEEN normally conducts (i.e. only one vote per story per reader).

And no I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for Prince MANU . This problem has existed forever (even you and ace acknowledge it) and nothing’s been done. As to his looking for feedback before he implements whatever change he’s contemplating I know you know his history on that score.

And which LITEROTICAN has pointed out to him repeatedly that consulting people before he springs one of his changes on us might be a better system than his present one? Yes, it was I! I don’t remember you echoing my concerns before this latest post of yours. Quite frankly the manu is lost on this score...​

[size=+2]james r scouries esq.[/size]
MANU Award Winner
Multiple A.I.R. AWARD winner, MILLION SELLER,
Author of the MOST COMMENTED on
and the MOST VOTED on story on LITEROTICA

 

[scouries]

http://www.buckaroosfunnypictures.com/files/piks/uglybaby.jpg
superheroralphie a.k.a. little ralphie a.k.a. bettyboob a.k.a. carboy a.k.a.forestwill but not BFW

God I knew this cretin was the lowest of the lows but I didn’t know he’d stolen prize money from his fellow authors. My poor friend [size=+2]freddie [/size] must be turning in his grave.
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[size=+2]james r scouries esq.[/size]
MANU Award Winner
Multiple A.I.R. AWARD winner, MILLION SELLER,
Author of the MOST COMMENTED on
and the MOST VOTED on story on LITEROTICA

 

[Darkniciad]

Somebody call Al Gore. If we hooked up turbines to scouries and Freddie, all the spinning they do to try to weasel out of their lies could provide cheap, reneweable energy to everybody on the planet for eternity

 

[Guest]

Al Gore? That's the best you could do?

Gabby

 

[Guest]

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