About the rules

[Gunde]

From the CHYOO FAQ
"Underage Sex--Sexual activity with a minor, under 18, character is strictly prohibited. The best rule of thumb is to not even discuss children on this site, or refer back to events that happened when the characters were children."

Is this still rule still in place?

 

[BenjiDude]

I would assume so. Why?

 

[Gunde]

Because there's a popular and relatively new story with possibly underage* characters in the introduction.

*The story deals with four sisters, who are 19, 18, "second youngest" and "youngest". And there's no mention of any unusual circumstances which would make the two youngest sisters over 18.

 

[Imhotep]

Swell. I'd take care of it right away.

 

[Neon_Ultra]

I have just come across this. Many months late, no?

I must say it leaves me going "GRAAAAHH!" I know now that my story never simply vanished, losing to the bugs of chyoo... rather it was reported.

Man alive, there were no underage characters in that story! The sisters younger than the 18 year old are indeed younger as stated... but still 18! Unusual circumstances? It's just less months! Surely that made sense?!

If there was some issue someone could have just contacted me and I'd have made it more obvious, but no, it had to be taken down. All my work. I've never written erotica before and never written it since. I was proud of it, there was a lot there and a whole lot more to add. Words can't express the annoyance I felt at the time (softened quite a lot now!).

Nothing I can really do about it, but it's even more gutting to me that the one who first brought up the issue is my (joint) favourite chyoo author by a long shot


If I can suggest anything, I wish for trivial issues like this the author was contacted as a warning before an entire huge story was removed.


Sorry if I seem a tad touchy but y'know I don't like losing things I'll never get back :\

 

[Gunde]

Neon_Ultra, for what it's worth I'm sorry for not bringing it up with you first before starting this thread, and for not stepping up and telling you that I was the culprit when it happened.
I apologize for that.

 

[Neon_Ultra]

Thank you for the apology . You're still my joint fave author (with minimum)

I may go back to writing again, or at least start something.

 

[Gunde]

Thank you for the apology . You're still my joint fave author (with minimum)

I may go back to writing again, or at least start something.

Thanks

Do so, and if you set it up so that there can be consensual, non-incestuous hetero sex, I'll probably add twenty or so threads to it. I feel that I owe you that much at least.

 

[Neon_Ultra]

Thanks man. That's very kind of you.

I've set up another account - Horatio_Bones - for less taboo stuff (neon_ultra is a very, very old alias) and just started a story inspired by your tales called 'Set in Amazonia'.

 

[Gunde]

Damn, I was hoping you wouldn't take me up on my offer

Feel free to share a link to it (here or via PM) once its ready, so I can start preparing additions to it once its been approved.

 

[Neon_Ultra]

Has been approved, that's it - http://www.chyoo.com/index.php/main.story.cover/7180

No worries man if you don't write anything, don't feel you owe me at all and I don't want you writing out of anything other than want on your part. But it would be pretty cool to have your stuff!

 

[Gunde]

I noticed, feedback has been given and like I said there, I'll wait to see how thing develop before jumping in.

 

[Torg]

Man alive, there were no underage characters in that story! The sisters younger than the 18 year old are indeed younger as stated... but still 18! Unusual circumstances? It's just less months! Surely that made sense?!

Since they were described as sisters, not step-sisters or half-sisters, certain logic about how long humans take to gestate must be taken into account. Unless the second oldest is nearly 19, and the other two are twins, it is physically impossible for them to be of age. The moderator and the reporter made a reasonable assumption under the circumstances.

I have taken to asking authors when people report their threads, after making some mistakes myself.

 

[android1966]

It's probably best for the writer to err on the side of caution where there may be doubts. Putting in a line like "Jane had just turned eighteen." or "Though it was only a couple of weeks since her eighteenth birthday." is simple enough and makes it clear.

I do this in fanfiction stories, I might not know offhand the exact age of a character or real person and though I could look it up I add a line like that and assume it's set at a future point in time if necessary.

 

[Neon_Ultra]

There should have only been two 18 year old sisters. But you're right, I didn't think about gestation when I was writing down the figures.
And yeah I know I should have written more carefully and made it obvious, but I would have gladly changed it in an instant if I had been contacted prior.

 

[24ward]

It's probably best for the writer to err on the side of caution where there may be doubts. Putting in a line like "Jane had just turned eighteen." or "Though it was only a couple of weeks since her eighteenth birthday." is simple enough and makes it clear.

I do this in fanfiction stories, I might not know offhand the exact age of a character or real person and though I could look it up I add a line like that and assume it's set at a future point in time if necessary.

I disagree that the writer bears this onus. If the rule says, "no characters under 18 in sexual situations", then that is the rule, and the writer should not explicitly make characters younger than this. It's possible there is some explanation for how an 18-year old could have a younger sister who is of age, but I don't think it needs to be addressed. If the age is not addressed, then the writer is entitled to the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise it is an unnecessary digression which detracts from the story.

 

[sheckystiller]

I'm a troll.

 

[24ward]

Make up your mind. You seem to be saying if it's the rule, then it's the rule, but also the writer is entitled to the benefit of the doubt. If there is a rule, it must be followed, & there should be nothing that even potentially leads to a doubt.

Where the rule is not explicitly violated, the writer is entitled to the benefit of the doubt. I disagree that the writer must ensure there is "nothing that even potentially leads to a doubt." Do we expect each thread to include that all characters are 18 or older? No, because that would be cumbersome and take away from the story, and is unnecessary given the presumption that the rules are being followed. Readers should not presume a violation of the rule by the writer except where clear and unambiguous.

 

[sheckystiller]

I'm a troll.

 

[whizzper]

http://www.chyoo.com/index.php/main.story.page/140581/140155

This thread is not unclear or ambiguous...

 

[cyberking001]

chyoo

sorry folks, pls help ... i still do not know what chyoo is or what it stands for
thanks
sam

 

[jakelyon]

sorry folks, pls help ... i still do not know what chyoo is or what it stands for
thanks
sam

I have always had two versions I liked

CHoose Your Own Outcome

Or

CHoose Your Own Orgasm

Pick whichever you like or come up with an alternative.

To find out what the site is all about the FAQ can give you come good starting info. Here is the 1st entry:

Chyoo is an interactive erotic story website.

It works in a similar way to the Choose Your Own Adventure books you may have read as a child. At the bottom of each page of the story, you can choose different options as to how the story continues.

You can also personalise the story. If you haven't already done so, go back to the previous screen and fill out any name you like and it will appear in the story.

You are looking very sexy today Jane Doe.

Cool isn't it!

One of the best features of Chyoo, is the collaboration between different writers. You can add your own thread to other people's stories. If you start your own story, other people will add threads to your story (if you want them to).

You can read the stories without registering. If you want to add to a story, you must "sign up" as a member but it's totally free! (If you are already a Literotica member, your username and password also works here!)

If you have any questions you can ask them at our message board https://forum.literotica.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18

Our moderators jakelyon, ofhabit, Torg and TwiztedClown will be more than happy to help you. Our friendly members will also try to help you.

To continue reading this guide, click the circle next to the option you want, and then click next.

 

[demilerz]

sorry folks, pls help ... i still do not know what chyoo is or what it stands for
thanks
sam

CHYOO is a website which contains erotic story. You can check it at chyoo(.)com

 

[Fantasies_only]

I disagree that the writer bears this onus. If the rule says, "no characters under 18 in sexual situations", then that is the rule, and the writer should not explicitly make characters younger than this. It's possible there is some explanation for how an 18-year old could have a younger sister who is of age, but I don't think it needs to be addressed. If the age is not addressed, then the writer is entitled to the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise it is an unnecessary digression which detracts from the story.

Just so everyone knows, Literotica is going by the government standards concerning underage sexual themes.

"A sexual situation or sexual theme includes aroused by or touching genitalia by hand, genital, or any other body part."
This includes masturbation (as masturbation is legally seen as sex).
Sex is included as penis in mouth, buttocks, or vagina, no matter which age initiates it or if it's the same gender.

To be clear, a sexual theme can be a non contact fetish.
This can include simply seeing nudity.
I assume beating off to a stocking pinup magazine behind closed doors is included as a sexual theme (even though I'd say it's sensual, not sexual).

However I think I see a flaw in Liteotica's logic.
If Lit goes by what the government says, what the government doesn't say should be ok.
I would ask if it's alright first though.

Under 18 is considered a minor, yet a 17 year old can still see nudity and sexual situations if it's digital.
This is assuming the graphic is not real, but what if the graphic came to life (skin simulation), or even brought the 17 year old to the gaming world like TRON?

Another loophole (for 6+) is censored nudity.
I don't mean a bikini seen on the beach.
The breast itself does not have to be censored, only nipple and areola (see Miller Test nudity definition).
Consider the "Girls Next Door" book signing, and their child following, which by the way the mother encourages.

 

[Fantasies_only]

It was my understanding a minor who looks upon nudity, gets aroused by clothed and bare genitalia, or touches anything in a sexual manner, is not allowed on this site.

I was informed (by Laurel) this is not the case, and it's just personal preference, however what specifically can't be done (besides actual sex) is not known at this time since I've seen these rules elsewhere on this site.

I'll keep you up to date when I know something.