The Birth of Horny Town U.S.A.

[Stella_Omega]

She does. And her impressive cleavage is a sympathetic pillow.


Stella!! I 'CryBaby'!!
Until I bought the DVD I didn't even know there was a swimming hole. That part had never been in a version I'd seen. Odd. [/hi-jack]

Ya know, I'm pretty sure Darren might've sent Kitty a picture of his.. unmentionables one day.. she didn't show the whole shop, just the lady in her chair, who happened to be Lin Fu... maybe that's what made her decide she had to have him??

Sounds like him. Poor impulse control, yanno?

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Oh good! I'm going to change his name, though. He looks so intimidating despite his gentle nature that he needs a name to match. Ernst Von Drakensburg, Ph.D (Heidelberg), MS, BS, Associate Professor with a duel tenure track in Anthropology and American Indian Studies. He is fluent in four European languages and four First Nations but speaks all of them with a strong South German accent. His family dates to the Holy Roman Empire and has extensive land holdings. His great-grandfather was executed by the Nazis for conspiring to assassinate Hitler and his grandfather just barely survived the war because he was in the Navy and out of reach.


This is going to be fun!

 

[litfan10]

Alright, tomorrow night I will sit down and get all the info written recently here into the first post so we can find the relevant info for our stories.

Horner Springs it is. very cool.

Reading through this thread; it is amazing the creativity that is going on here! Again very cool! I am absolutely loving this.

Hopefully stories will start coming together and out once we have our map and I tabulate all the information together into the first post.

I think Stella has a great idea that we should try to keep things open to interpretation whenever possible, but as it has been pointed out it is modern enough for computers and Internet. However, I already see some neat back stories set when the springs were first discovered.

I will PM Manu tonight to see if it would be possible for two writers to share credits as that might come up, if not here then in Emerald Kitten's shared story thread for sure.

I think we should post stories as ourselves and just have an opening note that explains the story is set in Horner Springs, a place and characters which were created by a joint effort of a group of Literotica writers. Maybe title the stories as Horner Springs:story title. I will keep a directory of the stories in this thread or a new one whichever works best for us.

I will write up a suggested opening note that we can use and post it here tomorrow for your consideration.

Thanks again gang for the incredible enthusiasm and fun. I cannot wait to write and read stories that come from this.

 

[Weird Harold]

I like it. The Springs flow into the lake and then down into the river. That way you get everything. Of course, given how cold spring fed lakes are, only the hardiest would swim. Others would find the grassy banks perfect for sunning, flirting, showing off their bodies, etc. Great!

No lake! Just a small unnamed river that feeds into the snake, virgin or columbia rivers. The river ranges from 20-30yards wide and 40+ feet deep to a hundred yards wide and only two or three feet deep. It runs deeper in springtime and shallower in the fall, but between the HOT springs the town is named for, cold springs higher in the mountains and the annual snowpack it never runs completely dry.

Small hidden valleys in the intermountain west generally don't have lakes unless the lake is artificial and even then it would be fairly small by artificial lake standards.

This is sort of the kind of river I had in mind -- stripped of the lush rainforest of the middle-fork of the Willamette where the hot springs that inspired me are located:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Deschutes_River.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Deschutes_River.jpg

http://www.searchpictures.net/sports/fishing/deschutes_river_spot,_oregon_-_800x600.jpg
http://www.searchpictures.net/sports/fishing/deschutes_river_spot,_oregon_-_800x600.jpg

and yes that is the same river and there are places along it where there are river walks, and nature walks.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Once again, I suggest that we not get specific as to the location of the town, either. Just like leaving the color of her hair to the reader's preference, let teach American reader imagine this town in the next county over. mention mountains, or the small river or what other features you wish-- but who knows if it's the Alleghenies, or the Rockies-- or the San Gabriels?

 

[Weird Harold]

I love the internet.

I remembered the name of the hot springs (Kitson Springs) that inspired me and lo and behold, there are old pictures, history, and even the current status as a boy scout campground since the springs and land were donated in 1977 (after I left town.)

This is the bathhouse and pool as I dimly remember them from before they burned down when I was about ten:

http://thecentralcascades.com/files/2009/11/Scan103892-604x469.jpg
http://thecentralcascades.com/files/2009/11/Scan103892-604x469.jpg

 

[Weird Harold]

Once again, I suggest that we not get specific as to the location of the town, either. Just like leaving the color of her hair to the reader's preference, let teach American reader imagine this town in the next county over. mention mountains, or the small river or what other features you wish-- but who knows if it's the Alleghenies, or the Rockies-- or the San Gabriels?

"intermountain west" describes a huge swath of the north american continent, (about a quarter of the continent) so it isn't very precise. It does describe a few conditions that are relatively important to a shared universe -- climate and travel time to other commerce and entertainment.

"The Alleghenies" implies a climate and ecology -- and to a certain extent a culture -- that differs from that implied by "intermountain west". The same can be said for most other named mountain ranges or regions.

That does place some limitations on the authors sharing the universe, but it does prevent a day trip on a lobster boat in one story and a moose hunt in the back yard in the next.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I love the internet.

I remembered the name of the hot springs (Kitson Springs) that inspired me and lo and behold, there are old pictures, history, and even the current status as a boy scout campground since the springs and land were donated in 1977 (after I left town.)

This is the bathhouse and pool as I dimly remember them from before they burned down when I was about ten:

http://thecentralcascades.com/files/2009/11/Scan103892-604x469.jpg
http://thecentralcascades.com/files/2009/11/Scan103892-604x469.jpg

I love the internet too!

The fictional Turkey Point, from John water's Crybaby;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4g_7o0-JFc

That does place some limitations on the authors sharing the universe, but it does prevent a day trip on a lobster boat in one story and a moose hunt in the back yard in the next.

You don't get moose hear the coast?

Kidding, kidding, you have a very good point there.

 

[Weird Harold]

I love the internet too!

I was just surprised to find pictures of something I thought went bankrupt and derelict thirty years before the computers were invented, let alone the internet.

I'm a fan of shared universes, so I hope to point out some of the common errors that make many attempts at shared universes fail. One of the things that usually cause problems is trying to cram too many features into too small an area -- Janet Morris had to move Tempus a continent away from Sanctuary to get the right geography for for her Tempus/Thieves' World Novels because Sanctuary became too small and too crowded to hold all of the stories.

PS: there are Mooses (meese?) in the intermountain west, but mostly in the northern section above the canadian border; I don't think Horner Springs is quite that far north.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

So . . . what's the permanent population? How big is Futter College? And beyond the college and the mineral springs/bottling plant/dude ranches, are there any other base industries or do all the small businesses around town orbit these three? I just want to make sure I don't inadvertently refer to the nuclear power plant down the road or anything . . .

 

[Tx Tall Tales]

Some more thoughts-

If the city is somewhat rural, somewhat isolated, weird things can happen without alerting the whole world (for our non-human writing brethren)

Farms and Ranches nearby bring in income and itinerant workers. Also farmer's daughters

Vast swathes of wilderness let us get the crazies, hunters, trekkers, eco-crazies, etc.

Small airport, not big enough for a jet, but can handle the larger dual props.

Tallest building in town is the college library bell-tower. Hard to support high-rises in a community this size.

Downtown is maybe 1 main street, about 8-10 blocks long, with another grouping of building just off campus.

With a population around 20K, including at the most 5K at the college (students, faculty, support), we can have one big high school, and one private high school.

Bad guys: Biker gang nearby? Coordinated criminal activity? And gang action?

Police: Probably 12-20? Anyone know?

Small military post not too far away brings a constant business in-flow. Might be too much however. Maybe a closed base, with a small reserve unit.

Just a few ideas.

 

[Weird Harold]

So . . . what's the permanent population? How big is Futter College? And beyond the college and the mineral springs/bottling plant/dude ranches, are there any other base industries or do all the small businesses around town orbit these three? I just want to make sure I don't inadvertently refer to the nuclear power plant down the road or anything . . .

Population is no more than 20-25,000 permanent residents, perhaps 2000 - 3000 students and faculty combined at the two campuses of Futter U.

Tourism (campgrounds, fishing, hunting,)some residual "healing mineral baths" business and a small following for the bottled mineral water keeping the bottling plant in operation, but "The Springs" is mostly an eclusive resort/outdoors lodge now. Power is hydro-electric from a high mountain dam on a larger river nearby and a few experimental geothermal installations operated by the college.

Aside from the specific businesses and characters mentioned, all the businesses and amenities that any town could be expected to have including all of the major chain store and fast-food franchises. In addition, the college would be expected to have the arenas, gymnasiums, sports fields/stadiums, theater/opera house, etc any liberal arts college with a sports team could be expected to have. With the college, there is probably no need for a county fairground.

I think I added a park where Horatio's scandalous statue can be found -- that would obviously be 'Founder's Park.'

Not so much dude ranches in the immediate area, but possibly one or two nearby in adjacent (drier) valleys.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

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[voluptuary_manque]

Small military post not too far away brings a constant business in-flow. Might be too much however. Maybe a closed base, with a small reserve unit.

I was thinking along similar lines. How about a small military training area with a skeleton staff that is occasionally "closed to unauthorized personnel" for training exercises of an unspecified nature? The sergeants who run the place and the captain who commands it are considered run-of-the-mill folks except for their amazing ability to talk for hours about the base without saying a word about what goes on there?

 

[Weird Harold]

Some more thoughts-

If the city is somewhat rural, somewhat isolated, weird things can happen without alerting the whole world (for our non-human writing brethren)

Farms and Ranches nearby bring in income and itinerant workers. Also farmer's daughters

Vast swathes of wilderness let us get the crazies, hunters, trekkers, eco-crazies, etc.

Small airport, not big enough for a jet, but can handle the larger dual props.

Tallest building in town is the college library bell-tower. Hard to support high-rises in a community this size.

Downtown is maybe 1 main street, about 8-10 blocks long, with another grouping of building just off campus.

With a population around 20K, including at the most 5K at the college (students, faculty, support), we can have one big high school, and one private high school.

Bad guys: Biker gang nearby? Coordinated criminal activity? And gang action?

Police: Probably 12-20? Anyone know?

Small military post not too far away brings a constant business in-flow. Might be too much however. Maybe a closed base, with a small reserve unit.

Just a few ideas.

An active military base would swell the population beyond 20-25K.

A mothballed base with a small reserve detachment would suit -- possibly a base that doubles as the regional airport? That would mean a runway large enough for business jets and small commercial jets (737 size) but not enough business for more than weekly commercial service -- mostly twin engine turboprop commuter plane service to and from SLC? (Salt Lake City is centrally located for almost all of the intermountain west and has more connecting flights than any other reasonable choice except Denver which isn't really in the region since it is on the other side of the Rockies. There aren't a lot of other big airports to base commercial service out of. )

The hosptial probably has an old vietnam era UH1 "Huey" for medevac of serious trauma cases and the BLM, USDA Forest Service, and County Sheriff's office share another, more modern, helicopter for search and rescue and firefighting that can bbe used for medevac as well.

 

[Weird Harold]

I was thinking along similar lines. How about a small military training area with a skeleton staff that is occasionally "closed to unauthorized personnel" for training exercises of an unspecified nature?

Anything more active than an emergency landing strip or weather observation station would impact the population size.

 

[Stella_Omega]

So . . . what's the permanent population? How big is Futter College? And beyond the college and the mineral springs/bottling plant/dude ranches, are there any other base industries or do all the small businesses around town orbit these three? I just want to make sure I don't inadvertently refer to the nuclear power plant down the road or anything . . .

if you do-- it just gets folded into the canon, or ignored by other writers.

You will be astounded by how flexible these shared universes can be.

 

[JackLuis]

I need a small hill close to town, sort of Lovers Leap with lots of parking.

New Chicago Detective, get the Chief to let him test an Night Vision scope, to catch some college kids who are peeking on Ms. Minerva's Salon, and this leads to the Postman's confusion.

50-125 ft AGL would do, ~ 800 yds from town center?

? Shared Characters?

I need two "SC's" as bit players,
A bar girl, who carries a half pint of Jagermister in her stocking top and a ner'do well in a wife beater with a quart of Jagermister. In a ~83 F-150, camouflaged by collision.

Now I can create these characters, and perhaps use them to create a sub thread to the evolving Saga?
But I'd be willing to loan them to others as Bit Players.

Someone needs to be a coordinator, or central clearing center if it gets too crazy.

This reminds me of "Disc World", Ah ha Ha Ha.

 

[Weird Harold]

I need a small hill close to town, sort of Lovers Leap with lots of parking.
...
50-125 ft AGL would do, ~ 800 yds from town center?

Don't see any problem with geology. There are more than a few glacial eratics and mesaa around the intermountain west. The geology is a mix of "very ancient" and "merely old" formations so a huge rock ridge in the middle of town, (possibly surrounded by founder's park?) wouldn't be much of a stretch. Lay out the location and dimensions for Glyndahh to add to the map.

Remote mountain valleys with a river running through them often have a split-level topography with a "bench" 75-100 feet higher than the riverside floodplain. Sometimes there will be three levels of flatland with two benches above the floodplain, almost a natural terracing effect. Such a geographic feature would also satisfy your need for an overlook.

800 yards from town center is more problematic because that means it has to be in the middle of town -- that's only half a mile or so and a town of 20K population is going to need at least a two or three mile radius.

Just because people tend to think of small towns as two-dimensional, doesn't mean that small twons are necessarily flat -- almost every small town has a "lookout point" somewhere in the vicinity and some equivalent of "(s)Nob Hill" where the 'rich' folks live.

 

[Tarakin]

Mayor Margoles or Mayor Townsend ?
(both independent. We need no real politics here)...

I agree to no real politics. But the Mayor could dream about getting a NFL-Franchise, military base or something like this into town one day, and in his dreams may overlook some of the more immoral things he should have cared for.

Btw, Mayor Margoles. Townsend is to generic and may even imply of immediate doom if taken verbatim I have interest in flashing him out. Being German and in a very different political scope here there's small chance that I may him convert into any political party someone may recognize

Once again, I suggest that we not get specific as to the location of the town, either. Just like leaving the color of her hair to the reader's preference, let teach American reader imagine this town in the next county over. ...

I agree!

Is someone collecting the cornerstones of what is agreed upon by everyone? Preferably on the first side of the thread, so everyone can reread things he/she needs for his/her part.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I agree to no real politics. But the Mayor could dream about getting a NFL-Franchise, military base or something like this into town one day, and in his dreams may overlook some of the more immoral things he should have cared for.

Btw, Mayor Margoles. Townsend is to generic and may even imply of immediate doom if taken verbatim I have interest in flashing him out. Being German and in a very different political scope here there's small chance that I may him convert into any political party someone may recognize

I think we talked about the mayor being a woman... which need not stop her from dreams of sporting or military splendor, nor from a bit of chicanery.

I'm thinking of the mayor of the town, just north of Atlanta GA who did quite a lot to destroy the quality of life there. among other things, she tore down the antebellum wooden courthouse and placed a concrete monstrosity in its place, with her name on a huge plaque by the door... This resulted in a joint lawsuit against the city council from the historical society of Georgia and the DAR.

 

[litfan10]

I need a small hill close to town, sort of Lovers Leap with lots of parking.

New Chicago Detective, get the Chief to let him test an Night Vision scope, to catch some college kids who are peeking on Ms. Minerva's Salon, and this leads to the Postman's confusion.

50-125 ft AGL would do, ~ 800 yds from town center?

? Shared Characters?

I need two "SC's" as bit players,
A bar girl, who carries a half pint of Jagermister in her stocking top and a ner'do well in a wife beater with a quart of Jagermister. In a ~83 F-150, camouflaged by collision.

Now I can create these characters, and perhaps use them to create a sub thread to the evolving Saga?
But I'd be willing to loan them to others as Bit Players.

Someone needs to be a coordinator, or central clearing center if it gets too crazy.

This reminds me of "Disc World", Ah ha Ha Ha.

Hey Jack - central clearing house is me. I am coordinating the latest info and will have it on the first post later on tonight (EST)

 

[litfan10]

I agree to no real politics. But the Mayor could dream about getting a NFL-Franchise, military base or something like this into town one day, and in his dreams may overlook some of the more immoral things he should have cared for.

Btw, Mayor Margoles. Townsend is to generic and may even imply of immediate doom if taken verbatim I have interest in flashing him out. Being German and in a very different political scope here there's small chance that I may him convert into any political party someone may recognize


I agree!

Is someone collecting the cornerstones of what is agreed upon by everyone? Preferably on the first side of the thread, so everyone can reread things he/she needs for his/her part.

Hey Tarakin, I am collecting everything and will put it in the first post to help keep us organized. Glynndah is designing a map which should be available in a couple of days.

 

[litfan10]

I think we talked about the mayor being a woman... which need not stop her from dreams of sporting or military splendor, nor from a bit of chicanery.

I'm thinking of the mayor of the town, just north of Atlanta GA who did quite a lot to destroy the quality of life there. among other things, she tore down the antebellum wooden courthouse and placed a concrete monstrosity in its place, with her name on a huge plaque by the door... This resulted in a joint lawsuit against the city council from the historical society of Georgia and the DAR.

I like the idea of a woman mayor as she could be fighting some election demons which are not political in nature. I see her as very capable and forward thinking but because everyone thinks she won the election due to Kitty's influence (something to do with the threat of bad hair jobs to naysayers and special extra... ahem... treatment for the correct voters) no one will take her seriously or work with the poor woman, so she has to be extra creative to get things done.

 

[EmeraldKitten]

I can't wait til all you smart people get the town figured out.
I can't wait to start writing.

Kitty's heart was in the right place with the mayor stuff.. and she really wouldn't have screwed up someone's hair. She just tried to help, but sometimes her mouth runs off without checking with her brain first. The special services part was all true though.