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14th Amendment, Let's Change It

Killswitch said:
Why do Republicans hate Latinos so much.

What did they ever do to the G.O.P.

Just leave em the fuck alone and let them enjoy this country like you do.

For fucks sakes.
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Not all Republicans.

Here in Florida we have a few Latino Republicans. They don't, and wouldn't stand for this stuff.
 
This isn't a strictly Mexican immigration issue.

There are wealthy Chinese flying in to have their babies to circumvent oppressive birth restrictions.

The ease of travel makes the antiquated amendment practically toothless.
 
Byron In Exile said:
Because the Second Amendment hasn't been changed.
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so? just because it hasn't been changed, doesn't, according to you, mean it's not open to change, so why the fuss from the gun totin' loons that isn't constitutional?
 
Kybele said:
so? just because it hasn't been changed, doesn't, according to you, mean it's not open to change, so why the fuss from the gun totin' loons that isn't constitutional?
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Because it's a part of the Constitution until another Amendment is passed which affects, restricts, or nullifies it.
 
i love you people. you aren't past the first page and you're all already arguing about something only just barely related to the threads intended topic. that is just all kinds of awesome.
 
pointless said:
i love you people. you aren't past the first page and you're all already arguing about something only just barely related to the threads intended topic. that is just all kinds of awesome.
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It's our way.

As a part of this collective, you know this.

And, as one cell to another in this chaotic hive, I do appreciate your jest.
 
vetteman said:
Says right in the 14th Amendment that Congress can enforce the amendment through appropriate legislation.
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Enforce, not add to or take away from, the provisions laid out in the Amendment itself.

You think that congress can just add in a law that specifies "except for those born of illegal aliens" or "The children of illegal aliens are not subject to the citizenship rights afforded in the 14th Amendment" and leave it at that?

Good lord..
 
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Byron In Exile said:
Oh, nuts.

And people call me pedantic...
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I'm sure they call you a lot of things.

You're splitting hairs and insisting that repealing an amendment by passing another is the same as changing the original amendment, which is not possible at all. Unless of course the whole Constitution thing doesn't much matter to you.

It didn't seem to hinder our last President too much.
 
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vetteman said:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

Maybe the new Congress can get up the balls to explore the possibility of making an exception in the case of illegal aliens:

Across Texas, 60,000 babies of noncitizens get U.S. birthright

08:59 AM CDT on Sunday, August 8, 2010

By SHERRY JACOBSON / The Dallas Morning News
sjacobson@dallasnews.com

As Republican members of Congress press for changes to the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, preventing automatic citizenship for babies born to illegal immigrants, opponents insist the debate is not really about babies.

Instead, they say it is about politics and votes – not fixing the immigration system.

Still, the debate could resonate in Texas, where not only 1.5 million illegal immigrants are estimated to reside but at least 60,000 babies are added to their households annually.

Rest of story here:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/080810dnmetbabies.2be9a7e.html
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More racist shite. It wouldn't be a problem with this bum if they were white.
 
Ulaven_Demorte said:
You're splitting hairs and insisting that repealing an amendment by passing another is the same as changing the original amendment, which is not possible at all. Unless of course the whole Constitution thing doesn't much matter to you.
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Oh, bother. I'm not the one splitting hairs, here.

Repealing, limiting, changing... another Amendment can do any of those things.

One Amendment could delete the whole Bill of Rights.

The first ten Amendments would remain in the text, of course, but their effect in terms of law would be null. Likewise, there are parts of the original Constitution that are now of no effect due to Amendments.
 
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