United States is first in everything because we rule!

[TurdFergeson]

Our efficient high speed car system in ACTION!

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/images/2007/06/17/traffic_jam.jpg

 

[Bad_Doggie]

TGV is cool, faster and cheaper than the car from Stuttgart to Paris, if you book early enough. About the same time as a plane.

http://www.twinlinx.com/images/tgv.jpg

Also, a lot less stress.

Woof!

 

[TurdFergeson]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/High_Speed_Rail_07-09-2009.JPG/800px-High_Speed_Rail_07-09-2009.JPG

 

[ChauvanistPig]

We have high speed cars that go anywhere, and the freedom that goes with it.

And a finite fuel supply.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

The U.S. leads the world in documented prison population. Go us!

 

[Beco]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/High_Speed_Rail_07-09-2009.JPG/800px-High_Speed_Rail_07-09-2009.JPG

Just another bloated Obama program that gets a few drunken supporters all giddy and excited, but the reality is, it costs trillions of dollars and delivers very little.

Too much sizzle, not enough steak…

 

[Killswitch]

Just another bloated Obama program that gets a few drunken supporters all giddy and excited, but the reality is, it costs trillions of dollars and delivers very little.

Too much sizzle, not enough steak…

Kinda like the Iraq war?

least this way we can put people to work instead of death and have something to show for our dollars.

 

[ConorWallace]

Our efficient high speed car system OF TEH FREEDOMZ in ACTION!

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/images/2007/06/17/traffic_jam.jpg

Fixed

 

[TurdFergeson]

Fixed

haha...nice improvement.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Killswitch
Good grief is that all you have to contribute?

hey whats the price of gold today you fucking imbecile republican party of No dipwad?


That is because he saw a blackman with an "assualt' rifle stand up and express his 1st and 2nd amendment rights.

Just because someone has the legal right to do something does not mean he should. Guns have no legitimate place in a political rally when people are yelling at each other.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Our efficient high speed car system in ACTION!

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/images/2007/06/17/traffic_jam.jpg

If you want to learn how to do something well, see how it's done in Western Europe.

 

[Worm]

Maybe if we let government run our schools and spend more per student than any other country in the world our kids will be first in math and science!!!!

 

[ChauvanistPig]

Maybe if we let government run our schools and spend more per student than any other country in the world our kids will be first in math and science!!!!

Maybe if we get the shithead parents to quite enabling their shithead kids, we'd see a change in our academic scores.

 

[ConorWallace]

Maybe if we let government run our schools and spend more per student than any other country in the world our kids will be first in math and science!!!!

Maybe if we let our schools teach science instead of religious theories, that would help, too.

 

[lass714]

Cuba provides as good a care as we do.

Nice.

Do they? While I was in Cuba in 2001 I broke my foot. It took 18 hours driving hospital to hospital for myself and my cousin how lives in Cuba to locate a hospital with a x-ray machine that worked. The machine that we found that worked was from 1950. Needless to say I decided against an x-ray and hobbled around till I came back to the US. In 2000 I helped my aunt by holding the leather strap while she received stitches for a 6 inch gash in her leg. Why the strap? The stitches were being done without a local anesthesia because there was none available. After attempting to 'donate' an american $100.00 bill to the doctor , he informed me that they hadn't peformed surgery of any kind because they didn't have anesthesia for over 2 weeks. (The strap was so she could bite down on so she would not scream so loud) This is just 2 of a dozen medical situations I have experienced in Cuba. It doesn't rival the care I receive in the the US. Maybe in Havana it's different. Or maybe it was all a show for the 'yankee' conducting this study.

I have travel to Cuba since 1984 and I will tell you that where my family lives (Oriente) I would n't allow them to provide medical treatment to my dog much less my worst enemy.

 

[TurdFergeson]

Maybe if we let government run our schools and spend more per student than any other country in the world our kids will be first in math and science!!!!

We are first in innovations and new technologies, research and development.

Test scores, not so much.

 

[firespin]

Yeah, rail isn't suited to big countries, cars are much more specced for that.

Jesus, did corporate America buy your entire education system in the fifties or something?

Planes, Mr. Rocket Scientist.

Think planes.

 

[TurdFergeson]

Planes, Mr. Rocket Scientist.

Think planes.

Yes, airports are cheap, and fuel costs per amount of people transported by the mile is better than rail.

Or is it? But..planes do have a speed advantage. Have to give them that.

 

[Bob_Bytchin]

planes do have a speed advantage. Have to give them that.

That's to be expected in a society that expects instant gratification. After all, grandma needs that hummel she found on EBay...TOMORROW!

 

[firespin]

Yes, airports are cheap, and fuel costs per amount of people transported by the mile is better than rail.

Or is it? But..planes do have a speed advantage. Have to give them that.

Here's a comparison of planes vs. trains in what should be a best case scenario for trains, in the northeast corridor.

http://www.independenttraveler.com/resources/article.cfm?AID=607&category=42

 

[TurdFergeson]

That's to be expected in a society that expects instant gratification. After all, grandma needs that hummel she found on EBay...TOMORROW!

And that's why overnight or next day delivery is so much more...fuel costs for planes.

 

[firespin]

And that's why overnight or next day delivery is so much more...fuel costs for planes.

Whey aren't Acela fares a small fraction of air fares for comparable routes? It seems like that would be a clear advantage for trains if they could do that.

 

[TurdFergeson]

Here's a comparison of planes vs. trains in what should be a best case scenario for trains, in the northeast corridor.

http://www.independenttraveler.com/resources/article.cfm?AID=607&category=42

The Acela Express being the only "high-speed" rail (not really) in the USA...is of course going to be expensive.

But from a pure economical standpoint, trains are of course cheaper in the long run. Much better fuel to passenger ratio. Not to mention less maintenance and higher carrying capacity.

Planes might be catching up , though, with the new superliners.

 

[TurdFergeson]

Whey aren't Acela fares a small fraction of air fares for comparable routes? It seems like that would be a clear advantage for trains if they could do that.

The Acela is a luxury express "high speed" rail service. The only one of it's kind in the entire USA. The regional trains are cheaper than even the discount air shuttles.

 

[firespin]

The Acela is a luxury express "high speed" rail service. The only one of it's kind in the entire USA. The regional trains are cheaper than even the discount air shuttles.

My point, such as it is, is that the Acela service is maybe 75% the cost of the equivalent air service, which seems high somehow.

If fuel was the major cost in these operations, the price differential for longer flights would be higher than it is, at least within the US. A 2500 mile flight is sometimes the same price as a 500 mile flight, and certainly not five times as expensive on average.