"Because it's there."

I would be happy to tell you the name, but it happens to be named "Peak (insert my real last name here)" since I made the first ascent. I'm the closest person to the camera in that picture. We were headed down from the adjacent peak when it was taken.

seriously? You have a peak named after you? that is so damned cool. :cool:
 
I need a Sherpa. :D

Gosh, seems so long ago, though I think that is why I got your attention to begin with. About Bourkreev and his climb of Everest.
 
I need a Sherpa. :D

Gosh, seems so long ago, though I think that is why I got your attention to begin with. About Bourkreev and his climb of Everest.

I think you had my attention before that, Lovely. But that may have started us talking a bit more.
 
I think you had my attention before that, Lovely. But that may have started us talking a bit more.

Really? Obviously you had mine or I have not have created that thread many years ago. ;)

I think I have found what I want to do next and wondered if any of you have done it. Now, for me, this will be a test, as I have claustraphobia. I want to dive into an underwater cave. I have seen many explorations done on Discover and such, though the finds are just too freaking cool and the sealife that dwells these caves are most wonderful and some dangerous.

Have any of you done it? If so, other than below 50 ft diving cert, how would I go about it? I worked for NOAA for a stint and know of a couple of caves off my coast, though they have been marked for gov research. I have been to diver websites and such.

Anyhow, that's my next adventure.
 
Hillary didn't use oxygen, right?

Good God.

That's harder than walking on the moon.

No he did not use O2. I think he is the first documented case. Boukreev also tried it. Though, the Sherpas have been doing it for years. On Boukreev's expedition, several Sherpas died, though. Krakauer wrote a book called In Thin Air and Boukreev followed up with a recount of their expedition in an attempt w/out O2 in The Climb.
 
Really? Obviously you had mine or I have not have created that thread many years ago. ;)

I think I have found what I want to do next and wondered if any of you have done it. Now, for me, this will be a test, as I have claustraphobia. I want to dive into an underwater cave. I have seen many explorations done on Discover and such, though the finds are just too freaking cool and the sealife that dwells these caves are most wonderful and some dangerous.

Have any of you done it? If so, other than below 50 ft diving cert, how would I go about it? I worked for NOAA for a stint and know of a couple of caves off my coast, though they have been marked for gov research. I have been to diver websites and such.

Anyhow, that's my next adventure.
I'm sure of it. We had flirted a bit before that.

I haven't done any diving beyond my initial PADI course four years ago. Cave diving would be the thrill of a lifetime! I'm afraid I'm no help.
Hillary didn't use oxygen, right?

Good God.

That's harder than walking on the moon.

Hillary did use oxygen. Reinhold Messner was the first to summit without it. Before that, it was deemed impossible.

This is a shot of Edmund and friend during the climb. Hillary has taken his mask off to beam a smile at the folks back home, but you'll note that Tenzing Norgay still has his mask on. Also note the unwieldy tanks they were carrying.

http://kevinbarrephotography.com/uploaded_images/edmund-hillary-742519.jpg
 
No he did not use O2. I think he is the first documented case. Boukreev also tried it. Though, the Sherpas have been doing it for years. On Boukreev's expedition, several Sherpas died, though. Krakauer wrote a book called In Thin Air and Boukreev followed up with a recount of their expedition in an attempt w/out O2 in The Climb.

You've confused Hillary with Messner, my sweet.
 
From wiki:

In the 1970s, Messner championed the cause for ascending Mount Everest without supplementary oxygen, saying that he would do it "by fair means" or not at all.[4] In 1978, he reached the summit of Everest with Habeler.[4] This was the first time anyone had been that high without bottled oxygen and Messner and Habeler proved what certain doctors, specialists, and mountaineers thought impossible. It changed mountaineering forever. He repeated the feat, without Habeler, from the Tibetan side in 1980, during the monsoon season. This was Everest's first solo summit.
 
I've done this stuff. I know how hard it is to do.

It's hard to do on the ground.

When you get to 13,000 feet, and your head feels as if nails are being stuck into it... and your stomach is in such a knot that you can't eat anything...

It's very hard.

Trust me on this... 29,000 feet is absolutely insane.

How anyone could even survive there, let alone climb a mountain at the same time... is still a mystery to me.
 
Hillary did use oxygen. Reinhold Messner was the first to summit without it. Before that, it was deemed impossible.

This is a shot of Edmund and friend during the climb. Hillary has taken his mask off to beam a smile at the folks back home, but you'll note that Tenzing Norgay still has his mask on. Also note the unwieldy tanks they were carrying.
That's encouraging. It makes it understandable.

So it wasn't all just staged in Nevada?
 
I've done this stuff. I know how hard it is to do.

It's hard to do on the ground.

When you get to 13,000 feet, and your head feels as if nails are being stuck into it... and your stomach is in such a knot that you can't eat anything...

It's very hard.

Trust me on this... 29,000 feet is absolutely insane.

How anyone could even survive there, let alone climb a mountain at the same time... is still a mystery to me.
I don't have quite such a hard time at altitude. Then again, I move really slow. I just tend to get really winded.

The story is that everyone thought you'd die without gas at 29,000 feet until Reinhold flew over it and opened the window. He landed alive and said, wtf? And went for it.
Stomps my feet. You are right. I hate when I think I am so smart w/out Googling and get it wrong. :mad:

Thanks babes.
*kiss* You are far more often right than you ever are mistaken.
Reinhold is da-man!

The fancy new carbon O2 tanks are like feathers compared to those tanks.
I'm still not convinced he's fully human. And yeah, carbon-fiber...Reinhold would say we're continuing to "murder the impossible."
That's encouraging. It makes it understandable.

So it wasn't all just staged in Nevada?
Actually, I think it was in the Canadian Rockies.
 
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