Afghanistan s turning into a quagmire...

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Wyatt's wife in Misery died, so he tried to drink himself into an early death and turned horse-thief in the hopes of getting shot, hung, or another bottle and Gene (Pa Wyatt) shows up to post bail and give him a grand speech about loss, how it's common to everyone, and how we have to force ourselves to go on...

[It's a good movie, not quite Tombstone (certainly not Josie Wales), but it's at least as good as High Plains Drifter.]



... and to never, ever return to Arkansas!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

What?





Still no Throb? He's got me caught in a lie! We need to finish the dance...

 

[Byron In Exile]

Wyatt's wife in Misery died, so he tried to drink himself into an early death and turned horse-thief in the hopes of getting shot, hung, or another bottle and Gene (Pa Wyatt) shows up to post bail and give him a grand speech about loss, how it's common to everyone, and how we have to force ourselves to go on...

[It's a good movie, not quite Tombstone (certainly not Josie Wales), but it's at least as good as High Plains Drifter.]



... and to never, ever return to Arkansas!

Sounds interesting.

Is that from a movie?

 

[unregistered]

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Yes, "Wyatt Earp"

2 disks

Costner, Hackman, Dennis Quaid, Sam, what's-his-name, from Roadhouse...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

This is the war you approved of Throb, BRING IT ON!!!

WASHINGTON – The Pentagon presented a grim portrait of the Afghanistan war Thursday, offering no assurances about how long Americans will be fighting there or how many U.S. combat troops it will take to win.

Defeating the Taliban and al-Qaida will take "a few years," Defense Secretary Robert Gates said, with success on a larger scale in the desperately poor country a much longer proposition. He acknowledged that the Taliban has a firm hold on parts of the country President Barack Obama has called vital to U.S. security.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090813/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_gates_afghanistan

Big difference with Obama in charge.

Not one lib can give you a body count...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

The war you approved of Throb...

A CBS-New York Times survey in late July found 33 percent saying the war was going well and 57 percent saying it was going badly or very badly. In a CNN poll in early August, Americans, by 54 percent to 41 percent, said they oppose the Afghan war that almost all Americans favored after 9-11 and Obama said in 2008 was the right war for America to fight.

The president is now approaching a decision that may prove as fateful for him and his country as was the one made by Lyndon Johnson to send the Marines ashore at Da Nang in December 1965.

Obama confronts a two-part question:

If, after eight years of fighting, the Taliban is stronger, more capable and closer to victory than it has ever been, what will it cost in additional U.S. troops, casualties, years and billions to turn this around? And what is so vital to us in that wilderness land worth another eight years of fighting, bleeding and dying, other than averting the humiliation of another American defeat?

From Secretary Gates to Gen. Petraeus, U.S. military and political leaders have been unanimous that the Afghan war does not lend itself to a military victory. Unfortunately, the Taliban does seem to believe in a military victory and triumphal return to power, and imposing upon the United States the same kind of defeat their fathers imposed upon the Soviet Union.

Whatever we may say of them, Taliban fighters have shown a greater willingness to die for a country free of us Americans than our Afghan allies have shown to die for the future we Americans envision for them.

How many more have to die for Obama's tough-guy "I Told You So" image?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

WHAT!???​

Throb cut'n run from a fight he picked?

How Democratic of him...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

I see the Taliban are operating in the capitol and demanding we send more targets.





This is a Democrat-approved quagmire too...

 

[Cade Is Here]

Not me. The Taliban are more a part of the people than we will ever be. We were going to win hearts and minds in Vietnam too...

We're trying to change the people, the Taliban are trying to preserve the ways of their people; freedom fighters!

*snicker*

If McCain were president, we would be hearing the gnashing of teeth and the tearing of sack cloth...

The hypocrisy hangs heavy in the air, like the smell of napalm.

But we should bow down before obama just like he does to other countries leaders!

 

[John Doe]

Any war can be called a quagmire.

Oh really? So when we're talking about Afghanistan any war can be called a quagmire but Iraq actually is a quagmire. How convenient.

 

[Beco]

Oh really? So when we're talking about Afghanistan any war can be called a quagmire but Iraq actually is a quagmire. How convenient.

Iraq isn't a quagmire...

 

[John Doe]

Iraq isn't a quagmire...

I don't recall asking for an idiot's opinion.

 

[Beco]

I don't recall asking for an idiot's opinion.

Take it easy girly

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

We're getting out of Iraq.





It's not a quagmire; Obama's campaign rhetoric is driving his need to get out just like it's driving his need to step into the shifting sands of history.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

And busybody says, "Here's how Throb would Fight teh War!" Rules he wanted for Bush!

Top USAF General in Afghanistan Says He's Considering Ordering Warplanes to Scare Away Taliban Fighters With Low Fly-Over Instead of Killing Them....


Our troops on the ground have recently been subjected to strict ROE making it extremely difficult to fight back, now our jets are going to be used to make loud noises instead of dropping precision guided bombs. If we're not there to win, then let's leave. This is bullshit....

SHAW AIR FORCE BASE, S.C. — The Air Force general in charge of the air war in Afghanistan says a new strategy means warplanes in some cases may be buzzing rather than bombing some insurgents.

Lt. Gen. Gilmary Hostage said Thursday that his job is to support the strategy of winning Afghan support as formulated by the new U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal. As part of that, McChrystal imposed restrictions on air power to limit civilian casualties.

Hostage told reporters at Shaw Air Force Base in South Carolina his forces can easily drop bombs with pinpoint accuracy.

But the three-star general said that at times, it may be better to fly low over enemy forces and disperse them with noisy warplanes that threaten with firepower but don't immediately unleash it.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Bush invaded Afghanistan in order to catch Osama bin Laden. He failed to catch bin Laden. He never should have invaded. The invasion of Afghanistan was one more of Bush's failures that the wingnuts now blame on President Obama.

 

[busybody..]

Female Marines in Afghanistan Wearing Hijabs....


In some ill-fated attempt to win the hearts and minds of Afghan women (never happen, plus females are lower than dog shit in their culture) we have our soldiers submitting to sharia law.....

KHAWJA JAMAL, Afghanistan – Put on body armor, check weapons, cover head and shoulders with a scarf.


That was the drill for female American Marines who set out on patrol this week with a mission to make friends with Afghan women in a war zone by showing respect for Muslim standards of modesty.

The all-female unit of 46 Marines is the military's latest innovation in its rivalry with the Taliban for the populace's loyalty. Afghan women are viewed as good intelligence sources, and more open to the basics of the military's hearts-and-minds effort — hygiene, education and an end to the violence.

Women are technically barred from combat units in the Marines, and some infantrymen have been surprised to see them in brightly colored head scarves under their helmets, deployed in the most intense combat zones in the country

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Bush invaded Afghanistan in order to catch Osama bin Laden. He failed to catch bin Laden. He never should have invaded. The invasion of Afghanistan was one more of Bush's failures that the wingnuts now blame on President Obama.

The American people were solidly behind it. Even Throb...

90%

The stuff about getting bin Laden was the same as with the WMDs, the Left ignoring the big picture to focus on a tiny detail...

Which wingnuts are blaming Obama?

At most we're charging him with hypocrisy and playing with people's lives in direct contradiction to the type of talky-talk foreign policy he promised us, the kind Karzai is telling him we have to have, one of negotiation, not random missiles into the hills creating civilian casualties and animosity towards America.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The American people were solidly behind it. Even Throb...

90%

The stuff about getting bin Laden was the same as with the WMDs, the Left ignoring the big picture to focus on a tiny detail...

Which wingnuts are blaming Obama?

At most we're charging him with hypocrisy and playing with people's lives in direct contradiction to the type of talky-talk foreign policy he promised us, the kind Karzai is telling him we have to have, one of negotiation, not random missiles into the hills creating civilian casualties and animosity towards America.

Tsk, puttin' words in my mouth once again, AJ? Like the majority of the American public, I was...and am....in favor of taking out Bin Laden and Al Queda. If it took going into Afghanistan to root 'em out and hunt 'em down, so be it.

Unfortunately, your buddy the Decider opted to go nation-building on a grand scale, sending our military into both Afghanistan and Iraq. Your contention that "going after Bin Laden" was the same as "going after WMDs" is both spurious and not grounded in fact.

Likewise is your premise that diplomatic solutions and military solutions are somehow mutually exclusive. Oh, they were during the failed Bush administration, but we now have adults back in charge of the government, adults that dismiss your frivelous conjecture that one cannot pursue a diplomatic end to hostilities while engaged in hostilities.

All in all, you've failed once again to advance your argument, which is rather typical of a demogauge like you.

 

[TurdFergeson]

Bush invaded Afghanistan in order to catch Osama bin Laden. He failed to catch bin Laden. He never should have invaded. The invasion of Afghanistan was one more of Bush's failures that the wingnuts now blame on President Obama.

We never "smoked him out"?

In related news, opium and marijuana crops are at all time high yields over there.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Of course he didn't. AJ and Vetteman thought war was kewl back then. It allowed them to puff up their chests and stuff and sing Lee Greenwood songs. But most of all, it allowed them to question the patriotism of anyone who didn't agree with them, which is what those two cowards liked to do more than ANYTHING!

Yeah, and you wanted the war too dumbass...

In fact, the Friday Night before the Saturday Morning liberation of Afghanistan, your party's leaders took to the airways to bash Bush for doing nothing about the Taliban and how they would already be kicking ass and taking names if they were in charge of the war effort.

Are you a gambler, AJ?

Wanna play for high stakes, AJ? Are you man enough?

Here's the bet:

I'll give you TWENTY FOUR HOURS to find one SINGLE GODDAMNED POST of mine where I state that I "wanted war" in Iraq.

You find ONE SINGLE GODDAMNED POST, and I'll leave Lit forever, and send my password for "RobDownSouth" to you.

You DON'T find ONE SINGLE GODDAMNED POST, and you leave Lit for 30 days and send me the password to your Crisco account.

You fail to remember that I was against the war in Iraq from the absolute beginning. You and your fellow coward Vetteman had a lotta fun questioning my patriotism back then, remember?

SOooooooo....what's it gonna be, boy?

Your mouth writing checks your ass can't cash?



p.s. I'm betting you won't answer this post at all, taking in your history of cowardice in the face of hostile fire.

Bumpin' for the suddenly oh-so-quiet AJ.

Cat got your tongue, punk?

Or are you just waitin' for the Hur-Hur-Hur posse to back you up?

Boy are you a stupid mother-fucker. The topic is, was, and remains Afghaninam. Go back and re-read the post that set you off this time.

You kept screaming partition and quagmire when it came to Iraq ignoring the fact tat Iran and Turkey would promptly move in to keep down the Kurds and the Sunnis. But again, that wasn't the topic or I would have discussed why the Democratic Party demanded TWO votes for war due to the looming election and the desire to look tough on national defense, just like Obama is now doing what he thinks it takes to make him look tough to his voters.

But, thanks for the bump, it helps remind everyone here why they shouldn't attempt a dialog with you; again, you lack the tools and temperament. You have a serious screw loose.

Like you, I think military action in Afghanistan was justifiable.

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=225325



Throb, you're still a jackass who reads what he wants to see...

 

[RobDownSouth]

Throb, you're still a jackass who reads what he wants to see...

Thank you for the ad hominem.

You just hate it when I call you out on your many lies.

Now run along and pretend like you "won" this debate..

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Thank you for the ad hominem.

You just hate it when I call you out on your many lies.

Now run along and pretend like you "won" this debate..

Who won "the debate?"

There's no debating with an idiot who can't read and then goes insane.



Just be a man for once and admit that you were wrong, you made a mistake, you misread and ascribed. I don't even expect an apology. That's too big for you to handle.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Bumpin' for the suddenly oh-so-quiet AJ.

Cat got your tongue, punk?

Or are you just waitin' for the Hur-Hur-Hur posse to back you up?

Bumpity-bump-bump for the quiet ThrobDownSouth...

The man with the stupid mouth.