Pitchforks?

[bluntforcemama]

~~God

Ahahaha!


your face.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Well, screw you and your horse! That's the only one I could think of. I figured you'd like it because it heralds back to Matthew. He said so many great things. FDR, not Matthew. The latter was kind of a douche.

Lippy females.

 

[bluntforcemama]

Lippy females.

I'm ahead of your time.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I'm ahead of your time.

At least you aren't a hippy or a babyboomer or a nam vet.

 

[KingOrfeo]

You assume much Petey. Primarly you assume that the military, whose oath is to the constitution not the president, may not have different ideas.

Ishmael

But, the POTUS is their constitutional CinC.

As it should be, no matter what kind of POTUS we have. There are many countries where the military is an independent political force in its own right, and it is never a beneficial force. We've always managed to avoid that here. The U.S. military has never challenged or questioned its subordination to the civil government. You sure you wanna mess with that?!

 

[KingOrfeo]

Actually, given the size, mobility, and capability of todays armed forces the potential is even greater than in the past. Especially when the percieved direction of an administration is considerably divergent from the percieved contents of the constitution. And remember, the military votes 70% conservative. Obama recognizes that, what do you think his 'civilian army' is all about?

Not about fighting, at any rate.

You also are forced to assume that the military will actually turn it's guns on the civilian population. A population that is more in support of them and their efforts than the Obama regime.

No, it isn't. You still haven't absorbed the results of the last election, have you?!

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

That's a good one, but it was more like "if you think the New Deal is bad and radical, try blocking it and you'll find out what radical really means".

Exactly right. At the time of his assassination, Huey Long was the probably the second-most powerful man in America. Had he lived, he would've challenged for the Democratic nomination in 1936 and might have been our President during WWII.

 

[Ishmael]

Not about fighting, at any rate.



No, it isn't. You still haven't absorbed the results of the last election, have you?!

You don't have a fucking clue, do you?

The military officers oath is to the constitution and the constitution only. They are sworn to protect if from enemies, foriegn and domestic.

Can it happen? Yes. Will it? Just isn't any telling.

Ishmael

 

[KingOrfeo]

You don't have a fucking clue, do you?

The military officers oath is to the constitution and the constitution only. They are sworn to protect if from enemies, foriegn and domestic.

Can it happen? Yes. Will it? Just isn't any telling.

Ishmael

And the Constitution says the POTUS and nobody else is their CinC. But what I find disturbing is not your being open to the possibility that it can happen -- there are, after all, so many examples in other countries' histories -- but your apparent hope that it will. No patriotic American would hope for that. Not only would it be ipso facto unconstitutional regardless of the incumbent Administration's conduct, but there is no way a military coup in America can end well for America.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

And the Constitution says the POTUS and nobody else is their CinC. But what I find disturbing is not your being open to the possibility that it can happen -- there are, after all, so many examples in other countries' histories -- but your apparent hope that it will. No patriotic American would hope for that. Not only would it be ipso facto unconstitutional regardless of the incumbent Administration's conduct, but there is no way a military coup in America can end well for America.

I would say ask Assmeal what percentage of military coups actually did end well.

I'd say not many. If any.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I would say ask Assmeal what percentage of military coups actually did end well.

I'd say not many. If any.

I would also ask him to consider this: There are two kinds of military revolutions: The kind led by the officers, and the kind where the troops shoot their officers. Neither is likely in America at present, but the latter is likelier than the former, and the latter is usually of a LW tendency. No RW revolution, military or otherwise, is going to happen in America in the foreseeable future. So, ya say ya wanna revolutioooooon . . .

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I would also ask him to consider this: There are two kinds of military revolutions: The kind led by the officers, and the kind where the troops shoot their officers. Neither is likely in America at present, but the latter is likelier than the former, and the latter is usually of a LW tendency.

Be glad you're white, dude. Ishmael can't brush these questions off with a racial slur when you're white.

He lives around too many white people to have the balls to do that.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

KO

Lincoln being the one and only POTUS didn't stop Lee from leading the South and most of the "professional" army of the time against him.

Think about it for a second.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

You think our boots are LW?





'Splain why most of them are southern Christians and then 'splain Colin Powell and Wesley Clark...






Maybe even Zinni...

 

[Ishmael]

There are many (millions) that believe the act of bankrupting the nation for political gain is an act of dosmestic terrorism.

Ishmael

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Just as many seem to believe you have to spend your way out...





Judging from the polls as reported on Drudge, Obama is proving to be anything but the great uniter, the rift seems to grow under his "leadership."

 

[tactful]

Yes, pitchforks, shovels cut the worms.

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

You wiggle the pitchfork and they just pop up out of the ground!

 

[LaserLemon]

Just as many seem to believe you have to spend your way out...





Judging from the polls as reported on Drudge, Obama is proving to be anything but the great uniter, the rift seems to grow under his "leadership."

And the divide will only get bigger and bigger. Apparently, for quite a few citizens, Obama's current definition of hope and change is not quite as palatable as it was during the campaign. Probably why he went back to his roots with the town hall meetings in France. I expect he has many more planned here in the US.

 

[Ishmael]

Just as many seem to believe you have to spend your way out...





Judging from the polls as reported on Drudge, Obama is proving to be anything but the great uniter, the rift seems to grow under his "leadership."

Was there ever any doubt otherwise? What he knows about leadership you could shove up a gnats ass without discomforting the gnat.

Ishmael

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

B-b-b-but he's so smart and B-b-b-bush was so stupid!





Why won't you wingnuts follow us? Why can't you see how good he is for us? He's so wonderful!!! Clean, articulate, multi-lingual...

 

[Ishmael]

And the divide will only get bigger and bigger. Apparently, for quite a few citizens, Obama's current definition of hope and change is not quite as palatable as it was during the campaign. Probably why he went back to his roots with the town hall meetings in France. I expect he has many more planned here in the US.

The scales are falling from the eyes of many in that critical middle ground.

Ishmael

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

KO

Lincoln being the one and only POTUS didn't stop Lee from leading the South and most of the "professional" army of the time against him.

Think about it for a second.

Lee remained loyal to his state when its legislature voted to secede.

South Carolina was the member of a seven-state Confederacy when its troops fired on Fort Sumter.

Not a military coups.

And does anyone care to disagree with the proposition above that coups virtually always end badly?

 

[Cap’n AMatrixca]

Some of us think the union needs to be dissolved...




Right now State's allegiance to Washington DC is a mutual suicide pact.




His "oath" was to the Constitution...,

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

There's some honesty.

Now who's with this hayseed Revolutionary?

Wingnuts, sound off!