Desert Eagle

[The Heretic]

I've been reading the zombie attack survival guide, and the author recommends a .22 rimfire sidearm, claiming that it's as good as anything else for puncturing a skull at short range, and since it's lighter, it's likely to be more accurate.

The .22 rimfire is near the last cartridge I would chose for self-defense, even against zombies. The skull can be very dense in some individuals and the .22 LR may not penetrate it. To say that it is as good as anything else at short range (for skull shots) shows the author has never shot much of anything with it, or probably with anything else.

Through the eyes, or nose, or the mouth/palate, or upwards underneath the base of the posterior skull - the .22 LR would be okay. But those are small areas of a small target - the human head. There is a reason that when a hit man executes a person he has them get on their knees and bow their head; so he can fire into the base of the head up into the spine/neck and the brain. Death is then more or less instantaneous and assured.

 

[The Heretic]

If you wish, I could bring a few magnum revolvers down with me in a couple of weeks (I am coming down for Father's Day). If you buy the ammo and can find a safe place to shoot, you can shoot them.

 

[Sean]

I'd like to point out, this one had fuck all to do with me, I just laughed at it.

 

[breakwall]

She's history Perg. Gone. A receptacle of my lust. Nothingf more.

Ishmael

clearly not.

 

[Sean]

clearly not.

 

[rosco rathbone]

It's in a lot of 90s rap lyrics, that's all I know about it.

"desert egle at his back, step in, black
quit cryin, homie smacked 'im with the gat"

 

[Thunderbear]

Swords > Guns

Why limit yourself to just one?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/Mjollnir/Random/Picture988.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/Mjollnir/Picture948.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/Mjollnir/Picture949.jpg


Specialization is for the ants.

 

[popcorn2721]

Why limit yourself to just one?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/Mjollnir/Random/Picture988.jpg

Nice soft air collection....








Just kidding, that is a nice collection of arms... and thanks for putting this thread back on topic.

 

[Peregrinator]

The .22 rimfire is near the last cartridge I would chose for self-defense, even against zombies. The skull can be very dense in some individuals and the .22 LR may not penetrate it. To say that it is as good as anything else at short range (for skull shots) shows the author has never shot much of anything with it, or probably with anything else.

Through the eyes, or nose, or the mouth/palate, or upwards underneath the base of the posterior skull - the .22 LR would be okay. But those are small areas of a small target - the human head. There is a reason that when a hit man executes a person he has them get on their knees and bow their head; so he can fire into the base of the head up into the spine/neck and the brain. Death is then more or less instantaneous and assured.

Yeah, the book is more or less comedy, and even I know enough about weapons to see how silly his discussion of guns is. He didn't bother to talk to anyone about it much.

If you wish, I could bring a few magnum revolvers down with me in a couple of weeks (I am coming down for Father's Day). If you buy the ammo and can find a safe place to shoot, you can shoot them.

Oh, that would be fun. Remind me when it gets closer, and I'll ask around about a range. Guys in my unit will know.

Why limit yourself to just one?



Specialization is for the ants.

Heh. Nice collection. The sword looks homemade, is it? Sort of a viking design?

 

[milkmytits]

Actually, yes. Great firearm! Well balanced, great action, and easy to fire. It did not knock me on my ass, and made my accuracy easier because it handled so well. The Glock 9mm I fired at the same time felt like a cap gun in comparison.

 

[HeavyStick]

IMO a Desert Eagle can be a practical weapon when hunting large game in dense coverage, when a shot with a rifle is impractical.

If you want the reliability of Magnum Research Inc, I'd like to suggest the Baby Desert Eagle. In no means are they "Babies", but they are scaled down/normal sized pistols.

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Browse.asp?Category=Baby+Eagleistols


http://www.magnumresearch.com/products/BE_SemiCompact.jpg

 

[Peregrinator]

Actually, yes. Great firearm! Well balanced, great action, and easy to fire. It did not knock me on my ass, and made my accuracy easier because it handled so well. The Glock 9mm I fired at the same time felt like a cap gun in comparison.

An unqualified fan. Maybe the first in the thread. Welcome to Lit.

IMO a Desert Eagle can be a practical weapon when hunting large game in dense coverage, when a shot with a rifle is impractical.

If you want the reliability of Magnum Research Inc, I'd like to suggest the Baby Desert Eagle. In no means are they "Babies", but they are scaled down/normal sized pistols.

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Browse.asp?Category=Baby+Eagleistols


http://www.magnumresearch.com/products/BE_SemiCompact.jpg

Do you see them as more reliable than other makes?

 

[HeavyStick]

Do you see them as more reliable than other makes?

I have no experience shooting the Baby Eagles, I just see them as a practical weapon from a respected manufacturer.

 

[Peregrinator]

I have no experience shooting the Baby Eagles, I just see them as a practical weapon from a respected manufacturer.

Ah, gotcha. So no real reason to choose them over another respected manufacturer other than how they shoot for you personally?

 

[Collette]

Swords > Guns

I wish more people would bring them to a gunfight.

 

[HeavyStick]

Ah, gotcha. So no real reason to choose them over another respected manufacturer other than how they shoot for you personally?

Exactly, it's just like cars. Each maker has their problems and some people are hell bent on brand loyalty. Plus the average consumer can save 50% of their money and go with a "Baby" before the big $1200 investment for a full blown Eagle.

 

[Peregrinator]

Exactly, it's just like cars. Each maker has their problems and some people are hell bent on brand loyalty. Plus the average consumer can save 50% of their money and go with a "Baby" before the big $1200 investment for a full blown Eagle.

Makes sense. I tend to think that most people probably don't need the full size version anyway.

 

[milkmytits]

I was raised around guns, mostly rifles in a rural setting. My first experience was with a trained Weapons Master on the Desert Eagle. Taught me proper grip and positioning, and I am a natural shot anyway. It just felt more comfortable and REAL in my hand. Maybe for hauling around, cumbersome, but when you shoot to maim or kill, this gun definitely will do the job. You don't play around with any gun, obviously. I would keep this as a defense gun. My dad keeps a Beretta 9mm for his carry around....

 

[Azwed]

It's good for killing herons.

See Stephen King's Duma Key for examples!

And, good for killing assorted supernatural misfits.

See above literary reference for MORE examples.

Ah that is a great book. I read it a few weeks ago in about three days.

 

[Shamanskiss]

.............

Anyone have any experience with them? I just read the wiki and was kind of fascinated. Comments?

I had a lot of fun with the DE , before our govt 'outlawed' handgun ownership.
Loved shooting it,
but I didn't really feel it was any major departure from full factory loads in most .44 mags.
Some items , such as the Freedom arms .454 casull, might well have been more fun to shoot , in a deeply visceral sort of way.

In practical applications, they are a lot of weight to think of lugging around , with a big ammo load out ,bfor little real advantage other than the visual impact.

But for pure leisure fun...try it.
Don't you have any ranges that would carry one as a 'guest' gun.

 

[Thunderbear]

Heh. Nice collection. The sword looks homemade, is it? Sort of a viking design?

Ha. I make a lot of things myself, but I'm not that good yet. It's a Roman gladius design I picked up for a painting/display I'm going to get around to one of these days, of the Thermopylae memorial.

The Desert Eagle, or 'Deagle' in counterstrike/keyboard commando -speak is an overweight but capable design. Originally, it was in .357MAG, .41AE, and .44MAG, carrying the distinction of being the first and only autoloading .44MAG. It has since been through several iterations, with the addition of .50AE, and the deletion of the now hard to find .41AE. As it had a very distinctive profile, for some reason Hollywood got a hard on for it, and placed it in a vast number of (usually shitty, and some unusually shitty) movies. Exposure led to the inclusion into a host of games, for both console and PC, and it is widely known for these reasons, not for the use by the LEO/MIL operators that would have a use for this type of weapon.

As mentioned before, it's a novelty weapon now, with the rare exception of a few hunters, who like the autoloader and the built in weaver/picatinny rail on the newest iterations. It's big, it's distinctive, and it ranges in coloring from the ridiculous:

http://www.ozarkguns.com/Customer%20Photos/DE/DE%2023a.JPG

To the almost practical:

http://www.rps.net/QS/GUNS/desert-eagle2a.jpg

It's a blast to shoot, both literally and figuratively, but expensive in both initial cost and cost per round, in every configuration. You can usually find decent deals on older models in the black finish, if you look around.

If you wanted a pistol that you could use more practically, Heavy's recommendation of the Baby Eagle is a good one. It's known elsewhere as the Jericho 941, and is based off the very popular, and very reliable CZ 75.

 

[sigh]

Depending on the hunting pressure, it's kinda a myth that shots scare the game away. The sight or smell of a human will get them moving a lot faster. I can't tell you the number of times I've seen game just stop and look around at the sound of a shot.

Be that as it may, when I'm hunting, I'm hunting and not plinking for the hell of it. I'll take whatever might fit in the pot on the way out of the woods. Mainly because I have no desire to be carrying dead rabbits, squirrels, grouse, etc. around all day.

Ishmael

Sounds so Dan'l Boone-like.

Do you care about those silly formalities known as hunting seasons? Just curious.

 

[thør]

Sounds so Dan'l Boone-like.

Do you care about those silly formalities known as hunting seasons? Just curious.

For food, you can always open the season, as long as you close it behind you.

 

[The Heretic]

This will probably be my next revolver:

http://taurususa.com/images/imagesMain/444MULTI.jpg

Titanium .44 Mag.

I already have this:

http://taurususa.com/images/imagesMain/627SH4C.jpg

Titanium .357 Mag

And this (.44 Mag in Stainless):

http://taurususa.com/images/imagesMain/44SS6.jpg

I like that .44 Mag - has the best trigger in a DA revolver I've ever shot, but it is a bit heavy for my purposes (a hunting backup). Good for target shooting though.

 

[sigh]

For food, you can always open the season, as long as you close it behind you.

And as long as the warden's not around.

I've no real opinion on seasons myself. Don't know that much about them. I just know they exist from the days my sister and I played bird dog for my dad.

First day of pheasant season was always a big one. He'd get all excited. Don't think he ever missed opening day. Never figured out why. Dad always seemed to get as many on day 25 as day 1.