Ropework photos

[curvywetness]

I love the latest series of pictures. They are wonderful. I would love to be a rope bunny someday.

Thanks for the links as well, I can't wait to pursue them at length when I have more time.

 

[Homburg]

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! for the pics & the linking!

I was trying to show some of your pics to Hubby last night and thought that I should offer you to help make a nice index as I was sure I was not the only one that liked to reference your nice rope work ... and you DID IT! And added all those links for tutorials!
Thank you again!

... off to send the links to Hubby ... and hope for some holidays fun ....

My psychic powers are mighty indeed, eh rida-chan?

A huge thank you to my favourite fan. If you ever make it to the States on vacation, I expect you to come on out here

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I love the latest series of pictures. They are wonderful. I would love to be a rope bunny someday.

Thanks for the links as well, I can't wait to pursue them at length when I have more time.

Thank you for the compliment! Having seen your photos, I'd like to see you in my ropes. If you're on the east coast, feel free to PM me =)

 

[curvywetness]

Thank you for the compliment! Having seen your photos, I'd like to see you in my ropes. If you're on the east coast, feel free to PM me =)

Thank you Homburg, if I ever get out that way, I will be sure to PM you.

 

[Homburg]

I had a question come up in conversation with a good friend (*waves at rida-chan*) and we agreed that it might be worthwhile fodder for discussion here.

(Quoted with permission)

On a different but related note, I was meaning to ask you something about if you perceive a different approach to Shibari in the Westners world compared to the Japanese world.

Looking at the pics out there on the internet, and talking with an Italian friend of mine, if you base your idea of Shibari from Japanese site pics, you get the impression that it is all about overpowering the woman, and her face is always suffering (seems the way with almost all Japanese porn ... so maybe is just cultural ...).
While I've noticed that in the pics I've found on the English web-sites, and also with you liking to show pictures of your rope-bunny happy and smiling, that on the westners web-sites (at least English ones) there is an effort to show that the tied up one is actually enjoying herself ...

I'm not sure what I am trying to say ... lol .. but was wondering if you noticed it and if you had any thought about it.

I will give my take on it, and some observations on rope-culture in general.

First, a caveat - I'm no expert. My opinions are just that, opinions, and they are based on my own ramblings through the world of ropework. So, with that said....

The Japanese aesthetic vis a vis rope arises at least in part from the origins of rope-use in Japan. Hojojutsu was an artform in which rope was used to bind prisoners in various manners to as to keep them from resisting, unable to escape, tortured and in pain to elicit confessions, etc. It was used in martial and law enforcement contexts. It was quite literally non-consentual as it was intended to be used on resisting, hostile subjects. Given the context, this is completely understandable. A criminal is not going to give consent to be bound after all.

With Hojojutsu being intended for non-consentual use, the classic artwork reflects this with struggling subjects and pained expressions. This informs the modern aesthetic quite a bit, so classical-adherent stylists still make use of this non-consentual feel in their work.

That said, there are Japanese rope artists that do photo-shoots that lack that element entirely. Others still prefer it. And I've seen Japanese live acts that very clearly and emphatically showed how much gratitude the rigger felt for his subject, and how much she enjoyed it (afterwards).

So I think it is more a matter of aesthetic. In Japan, classical ropework is painful and no fun. To keep with tradition, the ties are either painful and no fun, or the model is looking like she's in pain and having no fun.

That said, a LOT of Western stylists do painful work too, and the models are in pain during the shoots. The Western artists just like to put that end shot in there, probably for legal reasons as much as anything else. As I call it, the "Honest officer, she was enjoying it" shots. Cultural pressure is pretty harsh on us, and making sure that we show that a good time was had by all helps keep us from being seen as total monsters.

Now, if we look at western dungeon style ties, it changes. Much like Japanese work, Western dungeon tying is based on painful, nasty, non-consentual stuff, and the aesthetic informs it too. The classic damsel-in-distress stuff is a good example.

Overall, I think the experience between rigger and rope bunny is similar regardless of where you go. It is done for sexual enjoyment after all. The difference is that the West is a bit more likely to make that part of the experience blatantly obvious.

I would like to see thoughts from others on this.

 

[Homburg]

And here is a collar that I made for "v". This is more of a proof of concept than a finished product. I decided that I wanted to make her a collar for her collaring, and this was the design I decided on. I wanted to see how much cord it would take, how the weave would look, etc.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/HomburgHat/rope/100_5142.jpg

I plan to redo it officially in some soft 4mm flax or silk cord, and hope to find some good stock at the FFF. I'll also attach the ring with a proper d-ring at that time.

Currently the backside is a frog-button style closure that I tied. Not as uber-secure as some would like, but it stands up to serious tugging and pulling. I'm also not one to lock on the collar, so I'm not too wound up on it. It's symbolic, and more important to me that it was made by my hands than some Fort Knox badass locking collar. The fact that it can be removed easily has its' own meaning, after all.

 

[NALA CAYENNE]

As usual I am in awe of your work, Babe. The pics are great and the subjects (yes the knots too) are very hot.

I also love the look of "v's" new collar.

 

[unfoundiamond]

Wow...

So I am Late... I have changed to a diffrent skin and didn't know how to get to the "Cafe" part... but I have found you now...
And btw... I tracked down some new pics My Friend, and wow...

Red is great and I was intriegued in wonddering if there was more colors for that (silk right?) rope.

I had no idea you could make a rope corset... that's so cool, and I can just imagine it being so smooth and evenly constricting, (unlike a real corset, unless its made to YOUR exact measurement)

And the rope one is exactly that... made to the persons own specific demensions... I am completely dying to try this...

I am, as always, amazed Hom... I like how proffessional you are...

I have had less than proper advances from men and heard of other girls doing model work for various men, art or other mediums (the medium in the example I am reffering to was a chain mail bikini) Many men are not so respectable and dont work with your level of chivalry. A man I know tries to use his craft to see girls naked, take pictures(of the girls naked mostly and usually drunk and basically falsely uninhibited and show them to everyone)

Seeing the pictures and reading your words, I am glad to see that men like you exist, You give me hope Hom.

And I just wish I could travel because I think you're trustworthy... I believe I'd be a honor, in fact...

Mad Love, yo!

 

[myinnerslut]

i love her collar. its amazing. and the fact that you made it makes it special.

its nice, tight work. geez, A can barely braid my hair.

 

[sinnocence]

Oooo. i love the collar, too. Very beautiful.

 

[unfoundiamond]

Well...

I don't know, because I can tie a boat to the dock, but I can't cornrow... so go figure... lol

 

[Homburg]

As usual I am in awe of your work, Babe. The pics are great and the subjects (yes the knots too) are very hot.

I also love the look of "v's" new collar.

Thanks, darlin'.

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i love her collar. its amazing. and the fact that you made it makes it special.

its nice, tight work. geez, A can barely braid my hair.

Hey now, That hair is attached to you, behind your shoulders, etc. It's tough to do, so don't cut yourself short. And don't be embarrassed that one of your male friends can braid better than you can. I'm certainly not embarrassed that I'm male and can braid better than most of my female friends.

And, yes, sometime sI do step back and think to myself, "Self, you're cruising macrame sites. You know that, right?" I'm just not worried about it any more. I've even looked into knitting, embroidery, etc, all trying to find new techniques that I can steal.

Thanks for the comments on the collar. It could be better. I've got another weave I'd like to try, but this one is just so much cleaner at the join that I don't think I'll do the square-knot sennet. That weave looks a bit better, IMO, but the ends are ugly. Better to have a tight weave with a simple and useful closure, than a flat weave that looks more explicitly collar-like, but has messy ends.

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Oooo. i love the collar, too. Very beautiful.

Thank you!


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I don't know, because I can tie a boat to the dock, but I can't cornrow... so go figure... lol

I would flat not have the patience for that. My hands would cramp solid too. The people that work in braid shops and do those gorgeous tight braids get much respect from me.

 

[myinnerslut]

Hey now, That hair is attached to you, behind your shoulders, etc. It's tough to do, so don't cut yourself short. And don't be embarrassed that one of your male friends can braid better than you can. I'm certainly not embarrassed that I'm male and can braid better than most of my female friends.

And, yes, sometime sI do step back and think to myself, "Self, you're cruising macrame sites. You know that, right?" I'm just not worried about it any more. I've even looked into knitting, embroidery, etc, all trying to find new techniques that I can steal.

Thanks for the comments on the collar. It could be better. I've got another weave I'd like to try, but this one is just so much cleaner at the join that I don't think I'll do the square-knot sennet. That weave looks a bit better, IMO, but the ends are ugly. Better to have a tight weave with a simple and useful closure, than a flat weave that looks more explicitly collar-like, but has messy ends.

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i never said I couldnt braid. my hair comes to the bottom of my breasts if its over my shoulder. i braid it often for dance. im actually quite good at it. i was commenting on how your braid is lovely and A is nearly hopeless with a braid.

 

[Homburg]

So I am Late... I have changed to a diffrent skin and didn't know how to get to the "Cafe" part... but I have found you now...
And btw... I tracked down some new pics My Friend, and wow...

Red is great and I was intriegued in wonddering if there was more colors for that (silk right?) rope.

It's jute. Silk is too high-rent for me. Hell, jute is usually too high-rent. rida-chan is my not-so-secret enabler though.

And there are an incredible range of colours. If you can go MFP instead of hemp, the options are even more awesome. Rainbow Ropes, linked above, has some really beautiful stuff.

I had no idea you could make a rope corset... that's so cool, and I can just imagine it being so smooth and evenly constricting, (unlike a real corset, unless its made to YOUR exact measurement)

And the rope one is exactly that... made to the persons own specific demensions... I am completely dying to try this...

Exactly, rope really is the best of both worlds. It's the ultimate one-size-fits-all, and perfectly tailored at the same time. Every installation is hand-made and custom to the wearer

As to evenly constricting, it is, if tied properly. WeatherGirl loves corsets, and has a few, and she said that the rope corset was definitely comparable to the light corsets she wears. And, yes, it can be made more serious. If it was intended for longer wear, I would have done more of the diagonal lacing that you see with the white rope. It tightens, supports, and holds the corset more seriously.

She was in it for perhaps 30 minutes or so, and was definitely ready to get out by the end.

I am, as always, amazed Hom... I like how proffessional you are...

Thank you

had less than proper advances from men and heard of other girls doing model work for various men, art or other mediums (the medium in the example I am reffering to was a chain mail bikini) Many men are not so respectable and dont work with your level of chivalry. A man I know tries to use his craft to see girls naked, take pictures(of the girls naked mostly and usually drunk and basically falsely uninhibited and show them to everyone)

Seeing the pictures and reading your words, I am glad to see that men like you exist, You give me hope Hom.

And I just wish I could travel because I think you're trustworthy... I believe I'd be a honor, in fact...

Mad Love, yo!

Thank you, sweetheart, though I have to admit that I do it for pervy reasons too! Yeah, sure, I want beautiful photos, but if I was to claim that I wasn't doing this for my own pervy thrills, wow, I would be SO lying.

Therein lies the difference though. I don't portray myself as some sort of artistic photographer trying to be the next MET-Art guy. I admit that I'm a perv, and like tying people up. And I tell everyone I work with "I'm going to touch you. No, I mean it." Because I am. And implicit to that is "I'm going to enjoy touching you"

I do get we're you're coming from though. I am up front about everything I do. Everyone I work with knows that I do it because I truly enjoy it, both aesthetically and sexually. And that I am enjoying my subject as I tie. No, there's no explicit sexual contact (unless it is agreed upon prior to starting, of course), but the experience is a sexual one. I think that is part and parcel to being trustworthy. No, I'm not purely in some mental high-brained state when I'm tying. There's sexual enjoyment there. But, hey, my bunnies aren't just doing it for artistic thrills either, or so my nose tells me anyway

And you are not the only person that has said I was professional and trustworthy. To be frank, those are the two words I prize above all others in this sort of interchange. Nothing is more important to me than trust, and that is what I hope to inspire in my bottoms.

So thank you for your compliments. If you are ever up here, PM me.

 

[Homburg]

i never said I couldnt braid. my hair comes to the bottom of my breasts if its over my shoulder. i braid it often for dance. im actually quite good at it. i was commenting on how your braid is lovely and A is nearly hopeless with a braid.

Okay =P

I don't know why anyone would be hopeless with a braid. A three-strand braid is about the single most mindless thing you can do. Get into a 7-strand diagonal braid and we'll talk. That stuff gives me twitchy fits. I'll beat it though. Got to if I want to braid my own whips.

 

[myinnerslut]

Okay =P

I don't know why anyone would be hopeless with a braid. A three-strand braid is about the single most mindless thing you can do. Get into a 7-strand diagonal braid and we'll talk. That stuff gives me twitchy fits. I'll beat it though. Got to if I want to braid my own whips.

hes gotten better in the time we've been together. thats becuase ill plant myself on the couch in front of him with a brush and a hair tie and ask him ever so nicely to braid my hair. i love his hands in my hair

 

[Homburg]

hes gotten better in the time we've been together. thats becuase ill plant myself on the couch in front of him with a brush and a hair tie and ask him ever so nicely to braid my hair. i love his hands in my hair

*cough*Toppingfromthebottom*cough*

 

[myinnerslut]

*cough*Toppingfromthebottom*cough*

it is not!!

he only says yes if he wants to. and he likes having his hands wrapped in my hair more then i do.

 

[Homburg]

it is not!!

he only says yes if he wants to. and he likes having his hands wrapped in my hair more then i do.

Of course. And when you plop yourself down in front of him, it's because he asked you to.

 

[rida]

And here is a collar that I made for "v". This is more of a proof of concept than a finished product. I decided that I wanted to make her a collar for her collaring, and this was the design I decided on. I wanted to see how much cord it would take, how the weave would look, etc.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/HomburgHat/rope/100_5142.jpg

I plan to redo it officially in some soft 4mm flax or silk cord, and hope to find some good stock at the FFF. I'll also attach the ring with a proper d-ring at that time.

Currently the backside is a frog-button style closure that I tied. Not as uber-secure as some would like, but it stands up to serious tugging and pulling. I'm also not one to lock on the collar, so I'm not too wound up on it. It's symbolic, and more important to me that it was made by my hands than some Fort Knox badass locking collar. The fact that it can be removed easily has its' own meaning, after all.

OOOHHHH .... rope collar .... I'm just amazed of how many things you can do with rope! (...sneaked a peak at the rope-dildo .... yummi ....)

"v"'s really lucky ... wearing a collar that has been made for her by her PYL ... what other proof of love/care/cherish can someone need????

Lucky girl ...... and lucky you Homburg-sama to have her

... and of coure ... Merry Xmas!

 

[Homburg]

OOOHHHH .... rope collar .... I'm just amazed of how many things you can do with rope! (...sneaked a peak at the rope-dildo .... yummi ....)

"v"'s really lucky ... wearing a collar that has been made for her by her PYL ... what other proof of love/care/cherish can someone need????

Lucky girl ...... and lucky you Homburg-sama to have her

... and of coure ... Merry Xmas!

Merry Christmas to you too, rida-chan. You'll note that I posted my thoughts on your discussion topic above. Hopefully we'll get a few other comments from folks into rope soon.

And, yes, I am lucky to have her. She's awesome

 

[myinnerslut]

Of course. And when you plop yourself down in front of him, it's because he asked you to.

no, its becuase he likes my company and if i am in the room not doing anything he would rather have me on the couch next to him then somewhere else

 

[Homburg]

no, its becuase he likes my company and if i am in the room not doing anything he would rather have me on the couch next to him then somewhere else

Sure, sure. Okay, no worries...

 

[rida]

I had a question come up in conversation with a good friend (*waves at rida-chan*) and we agreed that it might be worthwhile fodder for discussion here.

(Quoted with permission)


I will give my take on it, and some observations on rope-culture in general.

First, a caveat - I'm no expert. My opinions are just that, opinions, and they are based on my own ramblings through the world of ropework. So, with that said....

The Japanese aesthetic vis a vis rope arises at least in part from the origins of rope-use in Japan. Hojojutsu was an artform in which rope was used to bind prisoners in various manners to as to keep them from resisting, unable to escape, tortured and in pain to elicit confessions, etc. It was used in martial and law enforcement contexts. It was quite literally non-consentual as it was intended to be used on resisting, hostile subjects. Given the context, this is completely understandable. A criminal is not going to give consent to be bound after all.

With Hojojutsu being intended for non-consentual use, the classic artwork reflects this with struggling subjects and pained expressions. This informs the modern aesthetic quite a bit, so classical-adherent stylists still make use of this non-consentual feel in their work.

That said, there are Japanese rope artists that do photo-shoots that lack that element entirely. Others still prefer it. And I've seen Japanese live acts that very clearly and emphatically showed how much gratitude the rigger felt for his subject, and how much she enjoyed it (afterwards).

So I think it is more a matter of aesthetic. In Japan, classical ropework is painful and no fun. To keep with tradition, the ties are either painful and no fun, or the model is looking like she's in pain and having no fun.

That said, a LOT of Western stylists do painful work too, and the models are in pain during the shoots. The Western artists just like to put that end shot in there, probably for legal reasons as much as anything else. As I call it, the "Honest officer, she was enjoying it" shots. Cultural pressure is pretty harsh on us, and making sure that we show that a good time was had by all helps keep us from being seen as total monsters.

Now, if we look at western dungeon style ties, it changes. Much like Japanese work, Western dungeon tying is based on painful, nasty, non-consentual stuff, and the aesthetic informs it too. The classic damsel-in-distress stuff is a good example.

Overall, I think the experience between rigger and rope bunny is similar regardless of where you go. It is done for sexual enjoyment after all. The difference is that the West is a bit more likely to make that part of the experience blatantly obvious.

I would like to see thoughts from others on this.

Thank you for bringing it up as I am curious to hear the take of other rope lovers on this.

I've also found a lot of food for thoughts at the following site that you linked:
http://www.japaneseropeart.com/RopeArt/index.html

A bit of related thoughts but maybe just rumbling ...

I was at a club a couple of nights ago, where sometimes they have rope shows or rope classes. It was not a rope night or any specific BDSM night nor it is specifically a BDSM club.

As part of a silly game that some regulars were playing, the looser would be tied up by one of the staff member that is rigger, and two lucky on lovely ladies got tied up (the description is not relevant so will skip it at the moment). The guy was really good and his movements were quick and precise. And they could have not get out of it on their own. They were not uncomfortable but surely restrained.

What I found interesting is that ... it was so casual. Tie up ... let her stay like that a little ... tie her off ... back to playing the silly game. Without any of the layer of extra meaning, sensorial implication or what not.

It truly brought home once again how different is the Japanese approach to sex, and S/M.

I tried to talk a bit with the rigger, but as he was one of the staff ... he really couldn't hang around much. However I got the chance to speak with a girl (another staff member but off duty at the time) and she told me how she got tied up by a really good rigger once, but that she was disappointed as she did not experience any "subspace" (disclaimer: she used a word I am not familiar off ... but I think that is what she meant).
I also joked with her and another customer how much I would have loved to get tied up and how this would feel like a prize for winning not a punishment for loosing. And he made a comment on how Japanese are shy that way and since they don't ask for what they want, they have to set it up as something that they don't.

 

[NALA CAYENNE]

I would flat not have the patience for that. My hands would cramp solid too. The people that work in braid shops and do those gorgeous tight braids get much respect from me.

Cornrows aren't that hard to do (and really don't require much patience, though yours, Homburg, is that of a saint). I taught myself when I was about twelve on my Barbie doll head (of course this was before the doll head looked like Beetlejuice shrunk it

When my hair was down to my ass, I used to keep it cornrowed in the summer because it's so thick. By the time I got from the part that actually attached o my scalp, to the end of the braid, I felt like I had charlie horses in my arms.

The other pain in the ass length of hair to is is hair that is as long as a grain of rice...that's when the hand cramps come in

 

[myinnerslut]

i cant believe i didnt catch this the first time around:

Get into a 7-strand diagonal braid and we'll talk. That stuff gives me twitchy fits. I'll beat it though. Got to if I want to braid my own whips.

you never made friendship bracelets, did you?