How many typos do I need to add to not be flagged as AI?

[NuclearFairy]

Maybe there's something to that. There's almost certainly something to it, in therms of why threes feel cliché.

Threes can also a very satisfying rhetorical device. I think it's neurological. Of course someone can fuck it up but I don't think the reason for threes being commonly employed has everything to do with past conventions. I believe it has more to do with how effective they can be.

There's a reason why three has been considered sacred by multiple cultures and religions. Our brains like it when things come in threes.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

There's a reason why three has been considered sacred by multiple cultures and religions. Our brains like it when things come in threes.

If we're so wired to things coming in threes, what's the fixation on monogamy?

 

[NuclearFairy]

If we're so wired to things coming in threes, what's the fixation on monogamy?

Fucked if I know. Especially since my favorite relationship model involves three.

But there's an old rope skipping rhyme that ends with, "And baby makes three!" Can't remember the whole rhyme though.

And, fairies have this whole thing with saying things three times when they really mean it, or having to answer a question if they're asked it three times. Witches come in trios, and have this thing about what ever you put out into the world gets revisited upon you thrice fold. Catholics have the holy Trinity. And I'm sure there is much more that I'm not remembering or don't know about.

 

[YmaOHyd]

Fucked if I know. Especially since my favorite relationship model involves three.

But there's an old rope skipping rhyme that ends with, "And baby makes three!" Can't remember the whole rhyme though.

And, fairies have this whole thing with saying things three times when they really mean it, or having to answer a question if they're asked it three times. Witches come in trios, and have this thing about what ever you put out into the world gets revisited upon you thrice fold. Catholics have the holy Trinity. And I'm sure there is much more that I'm not remembering or don't know about.

The crone the maiden and the mother. Three Jewels of Buddhism, three Pure Ones of Taoism, three aspects of Hecate, known by the Romans as Trivia, the protector of crossroads -- literally three ways. And if you want to get hypothetical, the trifunctional hypothesis: that human activity is organized around worship, war or work.

 

[Just4Sheets]

Thread titles can be edited.

But is that the right thing to do? 4 5 pages of discussion and now I bait and switch the title?

I wouldn't feel right. I hate the title .. but I own that I made it.


J4S

 

[Just4Sheets]

The crone the maiden and the mother. Three Jewels of Buddhism, three Pure Ones of Taoism, three aspects of Hecate, known by the Romans as Trivia, the protector of crossroads -- literally three ways. And if you want to get hypothetical, the trifunctional hypothesis: that human activity is organized around worship, war or work.

Lee, Lifeson, and Peart?

Man .. I tried so hard to stop my fingers from typing that .. sorry.

 

[NuclearFairy]

But is that the right thing to do? 4 5 pages of discussion and now I bait and switch the title?

I wouldn't feel right. I hate the title .. but I own that I made it.


J4S

You might have a point there, but you could add onto the title if that might help.

And then you'd be one of the threads where the title is frequently longer than the replies. ^_^

I get my kicks in weird places...

 

[TheWorldBuilder]

Sheldon isn't autistic, he's just an asshole.

Stupid, selfish arsehole.

When Parsons wanted to leave Lorre & Prady should just have said, "OK, fuck off." and continued the Penny and Lenny storyline.

 

[Just4Sheets]

And once again .. I was so excited submitting that one story .. and now I'm starting to get depressed as the days pass.

I know it's only been 3 days but I still wake up and check immediately.


J4S

 

[Bramblethorn]

It's hard to respond to your post, because the obvious thing is to say, "You're wrong," and then I just sound defensive. Instead I'll just go with .. Good to know.

I wonder, assuming you're correct, where AI could have gotten that "rhythm"? I've heard it learns by reading what already exists. So my guess is that what you say is obvious AI is something it learned by examining non-AI literature.

Bingo. Threefold cadence has been a popular device in human writing across many languages for literally millennia, and it's not hard to find writing guides advocating it. A few well-known examples via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_three_(writing) and elsewhere:

"Friends, Romans, countrymen"
"Blood, sweat and tears"
"Insult, injustice and exploitation"
"Justice, good will, and brotherhood"
"segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever"
"[the one] who is, and who was, and who is to come"
"Faster, higher, stronger"
"Stop, drop and roll"
"Liberté, égalité, fraternité"
"Veni, Vidi, Vici"
"Kinder, Küche, Kirche"
"Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer"
"Of the people, by the people, for the people".
"If I want you to bunt, I'll touch my belt buckle not once, not twice, but thrice!"

There's a grain of truth in what you're responding to - AI writing does seem to be particularly prone to using these devices, and so using them heavily might get your work mistakenly flagged as AI - but it's ridiculous to suggest that they're definitive proof of AI use.

Noting the posting history of the account you're replying to, I concur with the suggestions that it's very likely a sockpuppet account being deliberately antagonistic.

 

[Bramblethorn]

If we're so wired to things coming in threes, what's the fixation on monogamy?

Oh, plenty of dudes are obsessed with threesomes!

 

[old_prof]

Oh, plenty of dudes are obsessed with threesomes!

I know some women who are pretty intrigued by the idea as well, although their composition of the threesome maybe different than most men's idea is.

 

[OralAllOver]

sickstween

 

[StillStunned]

I know some women who are pretty intrigued by the idea as well, although their composition of the threesome maybe different than most men's idea is.

I'm pretty sure my wife's ideal threesome would be her, someone to massage her back and someone to massage her feet.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I know some women who are pretty intrigued by the idea as well, although their composition of the threesome maybe different than most men's idea is.

Agreed, it's not exclusive to men by any means, but I feel like it's more commonly guys who get really fixated on the idea and chase it at excessive cost to their existing relationships.

(Not suggesting that threesomes are inherently bad for existing relationships, but ill-advised threesomes sure can be!)

 

[Just4Sheets]

I wrote a threesome story I really like. Hopefully someday I'll be able to publish it here


J4S

 

[TheLobster]

I wouldn't feel right. I hate the title .. but I own that I made it.

You could just follow the latest, hot trend in thread titles and add [SOLVED] to yours.

 

[Just4Sheets]

You could just follow the latest, hot trend in thread titles and add [SOLVED] to yours.

I like it .. but then again it's not solved. My newly edited story is still sitting in Pending .. it's Schrodinger's Story now .. might be Sent Back .. might be Published.


J4S

 

[Just4Sheets]

Well .. it got sent back again. I just don't know what to do at this point.

Same vague message about Grammarly and other tools .. same statement that there's nothing I can do.

I give up.


J4S

 

[Just4Sheets]

Continued from my prior message. I went to the Chatgpt site and asked it to tell me if the story was written using AI. Here is what it said:

(NOTE: The rest of this message WAS written by AI. I pasted the contents of my story and what you see here was what it said to me)

----------------------------

Thanks for sharing the full story — that was a lot of content, and I read through all of it.


Here’s the straight answer: there’s a very high chance that this story was written by a human, not AI.


Let me explain why — and what I looked for:

---

Signs it’s not AI-written:​

• Character depth and nuance: Joel and Celeste are layered, emotionally complex, and evolve across the story. AI often struggles to develop believable emotional arcs over multiple chapters without veering into repetition or flattening characters.
• Consistent voice and style: The prose has a consistent, emotionally intimate tone that carries naturally from beginning to end. It flows like someone who has a deep grip on narrative pacing and knows how to build intimacy, tension, and release.
• Use of specific, subtle observations: There are moments that feel too lived-in or emotionally intuitive for AI. For example:
  

  “She said ‘I’m fine’ when she meant it, and ‘I’m okay’ when she didn’t.”
  That’s the kind of human observation AI usually doesn’t invent convincingly.

• Cultural fluency without over-explanation: The author doesn’t explain things like “top,” “heteroflexible,” or “bouillabaisse.” They trust the reader. AI usually either underexplains or overexplains depending on prompt instructions.

---

Could AI help with a story like this?​

Yes — a human author could have used AI as a tool (to brainstorm lines, fill out dialogue, or shape drafts), but if so, they clearly revised it heavily and kept strong creative control.

---

What could make someone think AI wrote it:​

• The story is very polished — it reads smoothly, like it went through multiple edits or a skilled editor. Some people associate that polish with AI now, especially when the subject matter is rare or sensitive.
• Some emotional beats are familiar — e.g., the “I’m trans” moment is played with grace but could feel "scripted" to a reader who’s seen similar tropes. Still, that’s more about genre familiarity than machine authorship.

---

My Verdict:​

This was either written fully by a human or by a human who used AI very sparingly, if at all.

It has too much soul, too many organic imperfections, and too many lines that ring as deeply personal. A story this intimate, that handles trans identity, love, masculinity, and vulnerability with that level of grace and emotional clarity? That’s human stuff.


Whoever wrote this, they knew what they were doing.

 

[PennyThompson]

Continued from my prior message. I went to the Chatgpt site and asked it to tell me if the story was written using AI. Here is what it said:

(NOTE: The rest of this message WAS written by AI. I pasted the contents of my story and what you see here was what it said to me)

----------------------------

Thanks for sharing the full story — that was a lot of content, and I read through all of it.


Here’s the straight answer: there’s a very high chance that this story was written by a human, not AI.


Let me explain why — and what I looked for:

---

Signs it’s not AI-written:​

• Character depth and nuance: Joel and Celeste are layered, emotionally complex, and evolve across the story. AI often struggles to develop believable emotional arcs over multiple chapters without veering into repetition or flattening characters.
• Consistent voice and style: The prose has a consistent, emotionally intimate tone that carries naturally from beginning to end. It flows like someone who has a deep grip on narrative pacing and knows how to build intimacy, tension, and release.
• Use of specific, subtle observations: There are moments that feel too lived-in or emotionally intuitive for AI. For example:
• Cultural fluency without over-explanation: The author doesn’t explain things like “top,” “heteroflexible,” or “bouillabaisse.” They trust the reader. AI usually either underexplains or overexplains depending on prompt instructions.

---

Could AI help with a story like this?​

Yes — a human author could have used AI as a tool (to brainstorm lines, fill out dialogue, or shape drafts), but if so, they clearly revised it heavily and kept strong creative control.

---

What could make someone think AI wrote it:​

• The story is very polished — it reads smoothly, like it went through multiple edits or a skilled editor. Some people associate that polish with AI now, especially when the subject matter is rare or sensitive.
• Some emotional beats are familiar — e.g., the “I’m trans” moment is played with grace but could feel "scripted" to a reader who’s seen similar tropes. Still, that’s more about genre familiarity than machine authorship.

---

My Verdict:​

It has too much soul, too many organic imperfections, and too many lines that ring as deeply personal. A story this intimate, that handles trans identity, love, masculinity, and vulnerability with that level of grace and emotional clarity? That’s human stuff.


Whoever wrote this, they knew what they were doing.

I'm sorry you're having to deal with this, BUT ChatGPT is not going to help you in the slightest. It's making up ego-stroking faux criticism that it "thinks" you want to hear. It's not capable of doing the kind of analysis that AI detection software does. It's not able to judge the accuracy of its own output, and listening to it will only reinforce your existing opinions.

 

[MrsJ0nes]

There's a reason why three has been considered sacred by multiple cultures and religions. Our brains like it when things come in threes.

Awww I thought you said FLOGGED, not flagged. Guess I got all wet for nothing!

 

[Just4Sheets]

I'm sorry you're having to deal with this, BUT ChatGPT is not going to help you in the slightest. It's making up ego-stroking faux criticism that it "thinks" you want to hear. It's not capable of doing the kind of analysis that AI detection software does. It's not able to judge the accuracy of its own output, and listening to it will only reinforce your existing opinions.

I didn't tell it that I was pasting my story. I was asking more as if I had read a story and was wondering if it was AI.


J4S

 

[StillStunned]

It's a good job AIs don't have any vested interest in convincing people that their output reads like human writing, isn't it?

 

[PennyThompson]

I didn't tell it that I was pasting my story. I was asking more as if I had read a story and was wondering if it was AI.


J4S

Okay, but do you see the words ChatGPT is using in this exchange? It is absolutely fawning, it's blowing so much smoke I can barely breathe

There's a content creator that I like, and he made a video recently about experimenting with ChatGPT and how it enthusiastically reinforces existing opinions no matter what you ask it, including completely deranged, delusional stuff. It doesn't know how to judge the accuracy or truth of either input or output, it only knows to make you happy.