Venezuela

[Rebel5soul]

More attempts to change the subject. These people consistently demonstrate ADHD.

 

[DeluxAuto]

More attempts to change the subject. These people consistently demonstrate ADHD.

How about this one, shit for brains?



I wasn’t there! It was the fog of war! You’re so mean to me!

Good god.

 

[HisArpy]

More attempts to change the subject. These people consistently demonstrate ADHD.

Their underlying problem is that they don't know who they are anymore.

At one time we all understood that our goal was to move America forward. We may have differed on the method, but the goal was mutually striven for.

Today, the Left's sole and only goal is to counter anything/everything done by conservatives. They use violence as one of their main methods to cow resistance and violent rhetoric as another in an attempt to silence critics. And if they do manage to censor the opposition, what results isn't any form of moving forward, it's a gateway for them to impose more control, more abuse, more tyranny upon the people all while saying that the people deserve oppression and abuse.

You can see this strategy being played out by those who confess that they are more loyal to foreign nations than their own. By those who side with criminals and against the law. And by those who seek self promotion through falsity over what's right and factual.

I personally would like to see the Left return to it's former glory. A political ideology that lifts the nation rather than infects it with hate, terror, and violence. But that's just me, YMMV.

 

[DeluxAuto]

At one time we all understood that our goal was to move America forward.

Blowing unknown vessels out of the water and then double tapping for the war crimes vote is definitely going to get us there.

 

[gxnn]

Charge forward’? Calm down, Sun Tzu. The U.S. has been lighting up those Venezuelan radars for days, if anything kicks off, those Chinese hand-me-down systems will be the first smears on the ground. China’s ‘melon-eaters’ can watch all they want, but they’re probably not going to get the missile performance review they’re fantasizing about.

You are right.
China could not have sold the best firearms to any country, because it is something like a pretty girl prone on her knees with her naked ass lifted high for a rapist.
Life is full of surprises. Who knows?
Before the battle of Pak and India, few Chinese "melon-eaters" cared about the weapons China sold to their iron brothers.
If this time there are some defects in the missiles or other similar arms, it will be the matter between the US and Venezuela, and China will make the objective review as a bystander.
During WWII, the US also did the same, selling weapons to the warring states Japan and China at the same time. It is understandable when what it wants is profits.

 

[Lazaran]

You are right.
China could not have sold the best firearms to any country, because it is something like a pretty girl prone on her knees with her naked ass lifted high for a rapist.
Life is full of surprises. Who knows?
Before the battle of Pak and India, few Chinese "melon-eaters" cared about the weapons China sold to their iron brothers.
If this time there are some defects in the missiles or other similar arms, it will be the matter between the US and Venezuela, and China will make the objective review as a bystander.
During WWII, the US also did the same, selling weapons to the warring states Japan and China at the same time. It is understandable when what it wants is profits.

gxnn “the Chinese troll bot” doesn’t understand that REAL stealth aircraft can easily evade cheap Chinese missiles & radars.



gynn “the Chinese troll bot”

 

[coati]

Their underlying problem is that they don't know who they are anymore.

At one time we all understood that our goal was to move America forward. We may have differed on the method, but the goal was mutually striven for.

Today, the Left's sole and only goal is to counter anything/everything done by conservatives. They use violence as one of their main methods to cow resistance and violent rhetoric as another in an attempt to silence critics. And if they do manage to censor the opposition, what results isn't any form of moving forward, it's a gateway for them to impose more control, more abuse, more tyranny upon the people all while saying that the people deserve oppression and abuse.

You can see this strategy being played out by those who confess that they are more loyal to foreign nations than their own. By those who side with criminals and against the law. And by those who seek self promotion through falsity over what's right and factual.

I personally would like to see the Left return to it's former glory. A political ideology that lifts the nation rather than infects it with hate, terror, and violence. But that's just me, YMMV.

Read this carefully^^^. Harpy just demonstrated how MAGAts have completely lost the ability (or the will) to follow the rule of law and to tell the truth when the law has been violated.

Even GOP Senators are admitting that the MAGAts have gone overboard with lying about this war crime, and yet the MAGAts on this thread continue to deny reality.

That, my friends, is a demonstration of the degree to which MAGAts have been brainwashed.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Oh.

 

[DeluxAuto]

 

[HisArpy]

Read this carefully^^^. Harpy just demonstrated how MAGAts have completely lost the ability (or the will) to follow the rule of law and to tell the truth when the law has been violated.

Even GOP Senators are admitting that the MAGAts have gone overboard with lying about this war crime, and yet the MAGAts on this thread continue to deny reality.

That, my friends, is a demonstration of the degree to which MAGAts have been brainwashed.

No one gives a fuck about your failure to acquire facts fantasy.

In sum; you're a Leftist Lib so just suck it.

 

[DraggonStone]

Have you considered even if you're firmly convinced that they were drug boats, that these criminal drug dealers could be holding prisoners? Would you consider these innocents collateral damage?

 

[ll74]

Their underlying problem is that they don't know who they are anymore.

At one time we all understood that our goal was to move America forward. We may have differed on the method, but the goal was mutually striven for.

Today, the Left's sole and only goal is to counter anything/everything done by conservatives. They use violence as one of their main methods to cow resistance and violent rhetoric as another in an attempt to silence critics. And if they do manage to censor the opposition, what results isn't any form of moving forward, it's a gateway for them to impose more control, more abuse, more tyranny upon the people all while saying that the people deserve oppression and abuse.

You can see this strategy being played out by those who confess that they are more loyal to foreign nations than their own. By those who side with criminals and against the law. And by those who seek self promotion through falsity over what's right and factual.

I personally would like to see the Left return to it's former glory. A political ideology that lifts the nation rather than infects it with hate, terror, and violence. But that's just me, YMMV.

I'm for diplomacy and global cooperation.
I'm for government investment in high risk and high reward technology, such as green energy
I'm for soft power by investing in programs like USAID and UN agencies with both money and resources, therefore increasing our role as a western global leader and partner in the world
I'm for health and scientific truths to advance American and global health forward leading to improvement on our health and wellness

And yes,.I oppose people who prefer and programs that advance isolationism, ignorance, bigotry and abdcuation of our role in the above policies.i absolutely oppose burning it all down without any forethought in our withdraw and long term effects of such policies.

None of these are complete nor fully fleshed out responses but meant to demonstrate that the complete opposition is not on the left but rather on the party who consistently express their desire to destroy their opposition political party in this very forum.
...which is MAGA.

 

[ll74]

Their underlying problem is that they don't know who they are anymore.

At one time we all understood that our goal was to move America forward. We may have differed on the method, but the goal was mutually striven for.

Today, the Left's sole and only goal is to counter anything/everything done by conservatives. They use violence as one of their main methods to cow resistance and violent rhetoric as another in an attempt to silence critics. And if they do manage to censor the opposition, what results isn't any form of moving forward, it's a gateway for them to impose more control, more abuse, more tyranny upon the people all while saying that the people deserve oppression and abuse.

You can see this strategy being played out by those who confess that they are more loyal to foreign nations than their own. By those who side with criminals and against the law. And by those who seek self promotion through falsity over what's right and factual.

I personally would like to see the Left return to it's former glory. A political ideology that lifts the nation rather than infects it with hate, terror, and violence. But that's just me, YMMV.

After thee rough pass, I submitted this to chatgpt for a more refined version, which resulted in the last few paragraphs being edited a bit that are more clear and succinct while smoothing the political bite a tad.

I support scientific truth and evidence-based health policy that strengthens both American and global well-being.

And yes—I oppose individuals and movements that promote isolationism, ignorance, bigotry, or the abandonment of our responsibilities on the world stage. I reject the reckless impulse to “burn it all down” without any understanding of the consequences or the lasting damage such withdrawals cause.

These statements are not meant to be exhaustive, but they illustrate a clear reality: the opposition to these principles is not coming from “the left.” The consistent hostility toward cooperation, expertise, and democratic norms comes from those openly committed to dismantling their political opponents, even in this very forum.
That movement is MAGA.

 

[ll74]

When it comes to Venezuela, what I’m seeing isn’t strategy — it’s a clumsy, half-baked attempt at regime change with no fucking idea how to actually execute it.

The whole approach amounts to nothing more than slamming the proverbial cock on the table and grunting, which, frankly, seems to be the playbook for their international diplomacy as a whole.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Have you considered even if you're firmly convinced that they were drug boats, that these criminal drug dealers could be holding prisoners? Would you consider these innocents collateral damage?

And pray tell, where are those prisoners being held? Or are you trying to push the "Kidnapped Family" fantasy here?

 

[Chadrone]

I'm for diplomacy and global cooperation.
I'm for government investment in high risk and high reward technology, such as green energy
I'm for soft power by investing in programs like USAID and UN agencies with both money and resources, therefore increasing our role as a western global leader and partner in the world
I'm for health and scientific truths to advance American and global health forward leading to improvement on our health and wellness

LOL you don't give two pumps of rat shit about truth when it doesn't fit the globo-commie open borders "please come destroy my community and traffick my children!! White people are the REAL problem!!!" woke tardation cult. Standard democrat.

And yes,.I oppose people who prefer and programs that advance isolationism, ignorance, bigotry and abdcuation of our role in the above policies.

Yet you claim to be a democrat....as bigoted and ignorant as they come.

i absolutely oppose burning it all down without any forethought in our withdraw and long term effects of such policies.

It's been 50 years, the shit that's burning is trash, you're just mad because your teams funding was dependent upon pretending that shit wasn't total shit and a long term failure.

None of these are complete nor fully fleshed out responses but meant to demonstrate that the complete opposition is not on the left

Cope.

but rather on the party who consistently express their desire to destroy their opposition political party in this very forum.
...which is MAGA.

MAGA was caused by democrats wanting to take everyone's shit.....and give it to the 3rd world. You guys are totally anti-American, overtly hostile to anyone who dares notice it and cheer violence against anyone who doesn't toe the ideology of your racist, anti-American cult.

We wouldn't want to destroy you if you didn't want to rob us and then hold us down while you let Abdul and Jamal do WHATEVER the fuck they want to us and we're not allowed to so much as even notice it much less complain because DAS WACIST!!! HURRR!!!! WHITEY IS THE REAL PROBLEM WITH AMERICA!!! HURRR (D)EMDERP!!!!

 

[ll74]

LOL you don't give two pumps of rat shit about truth when it doesn't fit the globo-commie open borders "please come destroy my community and traffick my children!! White people are the REAL problem!!!" woke tardation cult. Standard democrat.




Yet you claim to be a democrat....as bigoted and ignorant as they come.



It's been 50 years, the shit that's burning is trash, you're just mad because your teams funding was dependent upon pretending that shit wasn't total shit and a long term failure.



Cope.



MAGA was caused by democrats wanting to take everyone's shit.....and give it to the 3rd world. You guys are totally anti-American, overtly hostile to anyone who dares notice it and cheer violence against anyone who doesn't toe the ideology of your racist, anti-American cult.

We wouldn't want to destroy you if you didn't want to rob us and then hold us down while you let Abdul and Jamal do WHATEVER the fuck they want to us and we're not allowed to so much as even notice it much less complain because DAS WACIST!!! HURRR!!!! WHITEY IS THE REAL PROBLEM WITH AMERICA!!! HURRR (D)EMDERP!!!!

Histrionics and ascription are not a refutation.

No matter how much you believe they are.

But since you don't understand the meaning of either word, you just keep at it......

Here's a hint, every piece of this aligns with either one or the other. (In some cases, both)


Also, you admitted that your entire purpose is destruction of your opposition, which absolutely reinforces my position that it's not the left that is focused on nothing but being opposed

 

[Chadrone]

Histrionics and ascription are not a refutation.

No histrionics or ascription. Thanks for confirming you don't know those words mean.

It wasn't meant as refutation....I was just pointing and laughing at your self bloviating bullshit " I'm for health and scientific truths " LOL....but only the ones you like, just like a suburban wine mom who's never had a job in her life.

You don't like it when obvious health and scientific TRUTH tell you that 6'4" 250lb jacked they/them with a 10" cock isn't a woman....you guys lose your fucking minds when THAT truth gets spoken out loud. "BUT THEY IDENTIFY AS A WOOOMAN!! DAT MAKES IT TRUE!! HURRR!!!" and you guys will never undo the damage you did with that stupid......gonna have to own it for a LONG time.

 

[ll74]

No histrionics or ascription.

Yes, you don't understand words.

It wasn't meant as refutation....I was just pointing and laughing at your self bloviating bullshit " I'm for health and scientific truths " LOL....but only the ones you like, just like a suburban wine mom who's never had a job in her life.

Sure it wasn't.

You don't like it when obvious health and scientific TRUTH tell you that 6'4" 250lb jacked they/them with a 10" cock isn't a woman....you guys lose your fucking minds when THAT truth gets spoken out loud.

Lol....you're so much up your own ass of horseshit. You can't even speak my to policy positions.

I talk to my doctor about my health concerns and discussion. I don't find shit on the internet that I agree with and then assume their positions. I find information and corroborated that information....I don't just oppose whatever views my opposition agrees with.

And I certainly don't decide that everything you support is aligned with a party that I oppose.

 

[Chadrone]

Yes, you don't understand words.

I do that's how I know you're full of shit.

Sure it wasn't.

Exactly, as explained.

Lol....you're so much up your own ass of horseshit. You can't even speak my to policy positions.

You rarely have the spine to actaully stand on any.

I talk to my doctor about my health concerns and discussion. I don't find shit on the internet that I agree with and then assume their positions. I find information and corroborated that information....I don't just oppose whatever views my opposition agrees with.

Does exactly this day in and day out......merely questioning the Democrat Diocese sends you into a religious fury of posting to defend the holy honor of DNC and State authority to control all down to their very thoughts in the most Ultra-Karen manner possible. Funny enough while calling others authoritarian.....

And I certainly don't decide that everything you support is aligned with a party that I oppose.

That's not very progressive of you....what are you some kind of MAGA fascist?? You don't support open borders or PROGRESS.....you're a FASCIST!!

 

[ll74]

I do that's how I know you're full of shit.

Nope

Exactly, as explained.

Nope

You rarely have the spine to actaully stand on any.

I had a list that you ignored.

Perhaps review

Does exactly this day in and day out......merely questioning the Democrat Diocese sends you into a religious fury of posting to defend the holy honor of DNC and State authority to control all down to their very thoughts in the most Ultra-Karen manner possible. Funny enough while calling others authoritarian.....

That isn't what you do.

 

[Chadrone]

Nope


Nope

Yuuuuup.

I had a list that you ignored.

A list of virtue signals straight out of the "wine mom" handbook on how to impress all the other Karens.

No really policy positions.

When those get brought up you start acting like you did when I asked you what group of people was JD Vance refering to in the comment you used about eating pets, after denying you brougt up 3rd worlders.

Wriggle wriggle wriggle..... you worm and squirm because you get caught between looking like a Karen and looking like a MAGA.

That isn't what you do.

Correct, that's what you do.

 

[Rebel5soul]

You are right.
China could not have sold the best firearms to any country, because it is something like a pretty girl prone on her knees with her naked ass lifted high for a rapist.
Life is full of surprises. Who knows?
Before the battle of Pak and India, few Chinese "melon-eaters" cared about the weapons China sold to their iron brothers.
If this time there are some defects in the missiles or other similar arms, it will be the matter between the US and Venezuela, and China will make the objective review as a bystander.
During WWII, the US also did the same, selling weapons to the warring states Japan and China at the same time. It is understandable when what it wants is profits.

Actually here's what's going to happen. We will for the most part peacefully secure the country. And in doing so we'll ship your anti-air systems back over here where they will be dismantled and reverse engineered. AND compared to the Russian S-300/S-400 systems we already have in our possession. We will be fully aware that the systems will be 'crippled' but we'll get around that as well.

 

[icanhelp1]

Blowing unknown vessels out of the water and then double tapping for the war crimes vote is definitely going to get us there.

Do you have any idea as to the intel that backs these targeted strikes. You don't! STFU! The principal behind a strike is to destroy the target completely. The boat full of drugs was not sunk thus the double tap.

 

[ll74]

Yuuuuup.

Nope

A list of virtue signals straight out of the "wine mom" handbook on how to impress all the other Karens.

Nope

No really policy positions.

They are

When those get brought up you start acting like you did when I asked you what group of people was JD Vance refering to in the comment you used about eating pets, after denying you brougt up 3rd worlders.

This says nothing

Wriggle wriggle wriggle..... you worm and squirm because you get caught between looking like a Karen and looking like a MAGA.

Still saying nothing

Correct, that's what you do.

Histrionics is your only mode.
You've not addressed a single position I offered.