ll74
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The article just presents data that EV expected sales were beyond reality and they have been brought back down.
EV demand still outpaces non-EV
Electric cars.
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EV demand still outpaces non-EV
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Please find and post a reputable source that describes how much the US subsidizes the petroleum industry.
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Maybe in a niche segment, but not overall. The beauty of stats is you can make them say just about anything that supports your argument. The problem is…those Pesky facts…
I know you have trouble running that “the google, “ but I’m here to help…
You’re welcome.
ll74
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Lol....EVs are still outpacing in growth. Gas vehicles are still growing strong. Hybrids can be considered either.
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One of the biggest advantages with EV for consumers is that fuel for an EV can be produced at home with a solar power system.
Not many consumers can produce their own petroleum.
Not many consumers can produce their own petroleum.
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You’re right about all this!
For right now anyway, but history isn’t on your side poopooing a still growing technology. There’s always been a point where a person had to learn that a horse could take take one further than walking, a train was faster than a horse, and dirt roads needed to be paved for cars. I know you don’t understand this but if you look in your phone book to find the address to your local library and then use the Dewey Decimal system to go find a written book, it will become clear to your dumbass.
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A day late and a dollar short.You’re right about all this!
For right now anyway, but history isn’t on your side poopooing a still growing technology. There’s always been a point where a person had to learn that a horse could take take one further than walking, a train was faster than a horse, and dirt roads needed to be paved for cars. I know you don’t understand this but if you look in your phone book to find the address to your local library and then use the Dewey Decimal system to go find a written book, it will become clear to your dumbass.
. ShoeGaze, you never disappoint. Nobody is arguing about a growing technology…Had you gone back and read what we’re talking about, it’s that the EV portion has slowed. It’s a niche market, at this time, and one that was grown on the governments largesse.
EV’s have a place in the future, maybe the near future, maybe far off. The point being, had you actually read the links, is that demand isn’t all that hot at the moment. This has nothing to do with Doobie Decimal…have another toke my friend.
Now be a good lib and go torch a Tesla. Nothing screams saving the planet like burning plastic and cobalt batteries.
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Demand for EVs is still outpacing non EVs.A day late and a dollar short.
Had you gone back and read what we’re talking about, it’s that the EV portion has slowed. It’s a niche market, at this time, and one that was grown on the governments largesse.
EV’s have a place in the future, maybe the near future, maybe far off. The point being, had you actually read the links, is that demand isn’t all that hot at the moment. This has nothing to do with Doobie Decimal…have another toke my friend.
Now be a good lib and go torch a Tesla. Nothing screams saving the planet like burning plastic and cobalt batteries.
Your.source doesn't disprove that.
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Yeah, doable, but not really efficient…Amirite?
Let’s do some quick shit house maths…
You’re $80k in the hole carbon credit wise before you drive the Tesla off the lot…that’s NOT including the price of the car…we’re talking how much it costs in mining for the batteries, beefed up tires, ect…
Now add in the cost of solar panels on the roof of your house…what’s that? Another $20-50k. Look at the comments in that vid. 25-35 extra miles of charging ALL day? That’s on a sunny day!
Not very efficient. There’s a gas station on every corner, and the petrol is plentiful. We ain’t running out of gas in our lifetimes much less our grandchildren’s.
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A day late and a dollar short.
Had you gone back and read what we’re talking about, it’s that the EV portion has slowed. It’s a niche market, at this time, and one that was grown on the governments largesse.
EV’s have a place in the future, maybe the near future, maybe far off. The point being, had you actually read the links, is that demand isn’t all that hot at the moment. This has nothing to do with Doobie Decimal…have another toke my friend.
Now be a good lib and go torch a Tesla. Nothing screams saving the planet like burning plastic and cobalt batteries.
I don’t read your crap, never do never will, and still I think history will be on my side talking about either the tech or demand.
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No it’s not. It HAS increased, but it’s not outpacing gas powered sales.
Here’s your top sellers…one, maybe two EV’s in there…
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You make my point every time you attempt to join a debate. Run along ShoeGaze…the adults are trying to have a conversation.
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From your article - this is literally in the first paragraph
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Average expansion percentage 26%
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Haha.
My point isn’t even really talking about EVs. I don’t have a clue about them. This is about how you sound like a petulant little kid bemoaning the fact that Kmart isn’t around anymore and you can’t find a little horse to put a quarter in and ride. If you embody the American spirit of curiosity and invention then we would not go out our front doors much less the moon.
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EVs comprise about 10% of the US market. Demand is much lower in the US than it is in many other countries. The expiration of the tax credit at the end of this year is creating a small spike that is unlikely to carry into next year. GM and Ford are scaling back production in response to lower than anticipated demand.
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I will probably rent a car next year. I see an approximate cost of $1000 for a fullsize sedan and $1500 for a fullsize hybrid, with less luggage space. Since I expect to spend around $600 for gas, the hybrid mpg advantage can't be anywhere close enough to cover the higher price and smaller trunk, if there is an mpg advantage. I would not be surprised to see a hybrid use more gas with a heavier battery.
THis isnt over the politics of EV good/bad but just a fact of owning an EVthat is in a crash. Since nobody can warranty the batteries are good, most of the time a perfectly repairable vehice is totalled. Also, Rivian parts are so hard to get that in many states ypur car is totalled for bumper damage as its cheaper to total than wait and pay for 6 plus months for parts. It will get better but this is jusf a heads up in case you have this happen to you. NY is one of these states due to repair regulations. It sucks to tell someone this but a litgle FYI.
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CATL and BYD have both already got long life batteries which offer ranges of up to 480 Km+. When Sodium based batteries push that to over 800 up to 1000 Km. the game will be over, probably a year or so away.
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Fuck that!
We need to burn every last drop of pet-troll-ieum before the domestic MAGA dumbfucks will consider ‘lectricity. That shit is nothing but a commie plot to grab control of ever aspect of our lives!
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Of course…you understand percentages right? They go up and down with demand. EV’s will rise and fall, and this year will probably show an uptick due to people rushing to get those government incentives before they stop.
The market will find equilibrium and without government assistance EV’s will find a nice niche, up to and when they can start putting lighter and longer lasting batteries in them. They won’t be the majority by ‘30…as the wet dreamers had envisioned.
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So you're disputing your own article.
EV growth is outpacing non-EV growth.
So you're moving the goal posts.
Got it.
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That’s the crux. All these positive gains have been largely due to incentives. I get it…the virtu signals were clear, but ultimately the market will bear out where EV’s fall. Make no mistake, they’re here for good, but can we at least all have an honest assessment of what they are and where they’re headed.
