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[likes2watchU]

I went looking for that heirloom seed bank at NCSU but can’t seem to find it. It was an article in Garden&Gun a few years ago…I did find NC Apple Growers site, and low and behold the first one on there…Arkansas Black…and all the other varieties I’ve seen y’all discuss…

Need to up my apple game…

Here are a few resources for you:
Heirloom Apple Production
Library MakerSpace: Seed Library
North Carolina Production Guide for Smaller Orchard Plantings

 

[Vitriolhack]

No weddings but
Two funerals
And a hospital visit

That was my Friday night and Saturday. It’s been a tough couple days.

Small world backstory. In a prior life, the company I worked for used a metal polisher and plating company as a vendor. The owner was a character and his shop was in a very rough part of Newark. He hired ex cons, outcasts, people down on their luck and two bikers named Tiny and Sonny. They were in a club called Heavy Metal MC. I think they were affiliated with The Pagans.

The owner was a character. I wouldn’t have thought of that company again really, but a good friend at works wife’s father was the owner. Small world!

So I kept tabs on Gene thru my friend at work. And he passed away last week. So I got to pay my respects to him and the family at a viewing on Friday night. My friends’ wife really loved some of the colorful stories we had abt her dad! And there were many!

Saturday morning, i visited my friend in rehab. He has bad MS and had a super bad flare up 10 days ago. His right leg is basically deadweight. He lost most use of his right arm and hand. But I was glad to see him and make him laugh. Brought a few books for him. Just hoping he can regain some use of his limbs and get back home.

Went from there and met my wife at the local small airport where they had a really nice memorial for my buddy who passed away last week in a small airplane crash. A number of people eulogized him including me. He touched a lot of people and was a great man. He will be missed dearly. Mrs wonderer and his wife are very close friends.

I had to take some cherry wood to the local sawmill to get sliced up into 3” boards. It was a good distraction. Big 20-25” diameter logs.

And last nite we had a small fire and drank some beer.

https://imgur.com/a/eNK30jc

https://imgur.com/a/2zq7xQY

Oh man, sorry about that. It’s really tough seeing your buddies get older or sick.

Sadly, I hear you well. It’s good of you to stay close to them, I am sure they appreciate you.

Godspeed,

 

[Boat1]

Brother, I feel your pain... I'm SOOOO FUCKING TIRED of burying people.... it hurts.... recently, we did that after two long years of grieving.... I soaked my shirt with tears.... on a brighter note, yesterday, I was so blessed to meet people who share the same kind of values... they restore my faith in humanity!

 

[likes2watchU]

So, you have heard about my sweet tooth. I cannot deny it. I am partial to an apple tart but my absolute favourite is a bakewell tart. Mmm, delicious!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakewell_tart

Was introduced to those through baking shows streamed online.
I'm much more of an eat an apple than eat a baked apple person so...
you can have mine

Some apples seem to like frosts. My guess is they're still growing with the heat, but honestly have no idea how they'll turn out.

I think apples can be somewhat like grapes. Wine makers talk about certain vintages being better than others. These apples seem a bit different every year, some years better and some worse. But I don't have enough time with all of these to know what does what to who yet. Honestly, it's nothing scientific yet...

Hmm... needs a spreadsheet

Brother, I feel your pain... I'm SOOOO FUCKING TIRED of burying people.... it hurts.... recently, we did that after two long years of grieving

I am so sorry for your loss @Boat1
Glad you were able to get a bit of balance this weekend.
I keep reminding myself that my extended family is about a decade out (give or take) from the fun part of the Life Cycle. Really looking forward to more weddings and babies.

 

[dkak001]

I went looking for that heirloom seed bank at NCSU but can’t seem to find it. It was an article in Garden&Gun a few years ago…I did find NC Apple Growers site, and low and behold the first one on there…Arkansas Black…and all the other varieties I’ve seen y’all discuss…

So the thing about apples that not many people realize is that the seed from the fruit will not make the parent apple. Almost all require cross pollination to produce fruit. This means the seed isn't the parent genetics. (OK, apparently there are a couple that are self fertile, but that is extremely rare). This means you probably won't find apple seeds in a seed bank.

Any particular variety of apple is grown from scion wood, or a cutting of the tree. That means granny smith apple trees are all clones of the first granny smith apple, owned by granny smith, an so on. That's why some varieties get lost to time. That's why there are so many varieties, too. It's also why it's worth trying wild apples, and if they turn out to be good, one cutting and some root stock and you can have your own copy.

 

[likes2watchU]

So the thing about apples that not many people realize is that the seed from the fruit will not make the parent apple. Almost all require cross pollination to produce fruit. This means the seed isn't the parent genetics.

Any particular variety of apple is grown from scion wood, or a cutting of the tree. That means granny smith apple trees are all clones of the first granny smith apple, owned by granny smith, an so on.

This was not covered in my HS Biology Class
Thank you for filling in a gap in my (admiteddly limited) knowledge.
So the bank would need to be of living trees, not seeds. That changes things a bit for sure.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Here’s that Norwegian Apple Cake recipe…sorry, I tried several recipe Apps and this was the best I could do…also everything is metric…cause it’s Norwegian…but you knew that!

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Just because…we’re talking Norway.

Probably my favorite by the Fab4

 

[Missk_2022]

So, you have heard about my sweet tooth. I cannot deny it. I am partial to an apple tart but my absolute favourite is a bakewell tart. Mmm, delicious!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakewell_tart

I watch british baking show.... so i know what this is.... the white frosting looks so sweet

 

[Missk_2022]

Some apples seem to like frosts. My guess is they're still growing with the heat, but honestly have no idea how they'll turn out.

I think apples can be somewhat like grapes. Wine makers talk about certain vintages being better than others. These apples seem a bit different every year, some years better and some worse. But I don't have enough time with all of these to know what does what to who yet. Honestly, it's nothing scientific yet...

Chop em up add sugar and cinnamon and make sauce... hahahaha

 

[Missk_2022]

Here are a few resources for you:
Heirloom Apple Production
Library MakerSpace: Seed Library
North Carolina Production Guide for Smaller Orchard Plantings

L2 you are so smart

 

[likes2watchU]

Just because…we’re talking Norway.

Probably my favorite by the Fab4

and... now we all have wood
@Boat1

 

[likes2watchU]

L2 you are so smart

What a wonderful compliement! Thank you, @Missk_2022 !!

 

[Missk_2022]

So the thing about apples that not many people realize is that the seed from the fruit will not make the parent apple. Almost all require cross pollination to produce fruit. This means the seed isn't the parent genetics. (OK, apparently there are a couple that are self fertile, but that is extremely rare). This means you probably won't find apple seeds in a seed bank.

Any particular variety of apple is grown from scion wood, or a cutting of the tree. That means granny smith apple trees are all clones of the first granny smith apple, owned by granny smith, an so on. That's why some varieties get lost to time. That's why there are so many varieties, too. It's also why it's worth trying wild apples, and if they turn out to be good, one cutting and some root stock and you can have your own copy.

I saw on a show where they grafted one type of apple on to a different apple tree to help with pollination. Very interesting.

I also saw where there were 2 different apple trees close together and on one of the trees there were different looking apples because of pollination. That didnt make as much sense but ...cool

 

[Missk_2022]

This was not covered in my HS Biology Class
Thank you for filling in a gap in my (admiteddly limited) knowledge.
So the bank would need to be of living trees, not seeds. That changes things a bit for sure.

Or you go to an orchard and "ask" for a cutting....

 

[Missk_2022]

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Here’s that Norwegian Apple Cake recipe…sorry, I tried several recipe Apps and this was the best I could do…also everything is metric…cause it’s Norwegian…but you knew that!

I am norwegian on my moms side ..

 

[Missk_2022]

Ugh .... keep on keeping on

Dialysis day

Dad drove yesterday. A week of practice and to see how he feels after dialysis is in order. He is in there snoozing

 

[likes2watchU]

Ugh .... keep on keeping on

Dialysis day

Dad drove yesterday. A week of practice and to see how he feels after dialysis is in order. He is in there snoozing

Hope it all goes well today (and every day)!!

 

[Vitriolhack]

Ugh .... keep on keeping on

Dialysis day

Dad drove yesterday. A week of practice and to see how he feels after dialysis is in order. He is in there snoozing

Not the most fun taking care of older parents.

Sending you some positive vibes!! (Only emoji I found )

 

[dkak001]

Chop em up add sugar and cinnamon and make sauce... hahahaha

My preference is for an apple crisp.
Chop 'em up, add a can of cranberry sauce and an oatmeal based (with cinnamon) crumble topping and bake!

 

[dkak001]

I saw on a show where they grafted one type of apple on to a different apple tree to help with pollination. Very interesting.

I think the record is something like 50 different apple varieties on one tree. People do that sort of stuff as a hobby.
It works for other fruits too.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/living/tree-40-fruit-sam-van-aken-feat

In small yards with only room for one tree, you might need a tree with two varieties of apple just to get fruit. The Zestar and Honeycrisp tend to bloom together so are a good match in an orchard. Not sure how well they do on one tree, tho. With multiple types on one tree, it takes good pruning to prevent one from taking over completely.

I have really wanted to do an Espalier. I think a Belgian fence of different varieties of apples would be neat. Alternate reds/yellows or something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espalier
Probably should get started on that, if I ever want to see the results in my lifetime!

 

[dkak001]

Or you go to an orchard and "ask" for a cutting....

Some varieties are protected. The institution that first developed them might get $10 a tree for every one sold. So they frown on people pirating trees...

 

[likes2watchU]

I have really wanted to do an Espalier. I think a Belgian fence of different varieties of apples would be neat. Alternate reds/yellows or something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espalier

Fruit Bonsai??

 

[PersonalFavors]

Man I miss those huge Dove Hunts! Used to be a big deal down this way. Back when it actually would cool off is September and October one of the local clubs would have a Shuck&Shoot. Big oyster roast and dove hunt. One farmer had a couple hundred acres he opened up. It was on a main road so every damn kid in two counties showed up. It was like WW3…a bird would go down and ten people ran out to claim it!. I gave it 30. mins and left…

I've always hunted on private property. Never had to worry about ho was in the field or woods. Which is why I haven't hunted in NJ, PA or now here in VA. Shuck n shoot sounds fun. My favorite dove hunts were one not too long after dad had is heart attack we found a shady spot in woods on the edge of the field. I was the bird dog. First hunt of the season so pretty warm. We didn't realize it but there was a pond in the woods behind us. When the first bird came moseying up to lite in the trees that shot scared every bird out of the trees. The sky went dark with birds. Dad of course got 4 with his 3 shots. The slow bird and picked off 2 and winged one with the other three. I was shocked I could fire into that many birds and not hit a thing. Great day. The other was near the end as my dad was retired and moving to a retirement home he designed and built in VA for Mom and him. I guess it was the last 3 years, because I got the stand twice. There was a ditch that went out into the middle of the field. Deep like 12 feet. I would walk out and sit at the end of it. Dad or Mr. M would make a sound. Whoop. I'd raise my gun at the center of the ditch line and pop, almost be able to catch the birds as the fell out of the sky. Some we joked I cleaned because it looked like I shot a pillow. As they would hold up and get the birds closer and closer I realized they were falling at my feet because they were full of lead. That may not sound funny to many on here, but for us a good laugh. I was lucky all those years walking into cut corn to never have come up on a snake. Those are mostly fish stories or in my back yard before there were houses other than I grew up in.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

I watch british baking show.... so i know what this is.... the white frosting looks so sweet

When we moved back from Germany, we had BBCAmerica…they had a couple of cooking shows on there I’d watch. Now before this, all I cooked was ramen noodles, breakfast foods, and I could grill. That’s it.

Started watching Nigella Lawson’s show and got the interest to start trying a little bit of this and that she showed. SWMBO would come in and say, “oh give me a break…you’re watching HER, not how to cook!” .

I of course protested and then had to put up or stop watching! She liked my cooking and the rest is history!