Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event, suspect in custody

"Oh bella ciao" is also a reference to a computer game that is very popular among Gropyers, Hearts of Iron 4. So yes, that does - or at least could - "scream right-wing".
It's a song associated with leftist politics, practically the anthem of Antifa. Quoting it is a sign of leftism.

The governor didn't know him from Adam until a few days ago, and most likely has still never met him. His family is known to be very right wing, so chances are most of his friends are too.
Your point is? I have a very good friend form college. Conservative. Worked last year for Americans for Prosperity. Her daughter leans left. I have niece (my wife's side) who's quite conservative. Her kids are somewhat apolitical, but seem to lean mildly left. Her brother is a Bernie Bro.

The governor is quoting what the investigators ahve been told by family, friends, and who knows who else?

There are photos of him wearing a Trump t-shirt. I'm going to give that more credence than an anonymous quote from someone we don't even know for a fact was really acquainted with him.
I hate to break it to you, but that picture is photoshopped. (So is the one of him wearing a shirt with left-wing slogans. Both were photoshopped onto the same plain shirt. Not bad photoshop jobs.
 
The New York Post and the Fox News are unreliable sources.
No less reliable than any of your sources.
And there is NO evidence that even IF the roomate is trans that doesn't mean they were in a romantic relationship
Several people have come forward now to say they were in a romantic relationship. Somehow, lefties are trying to spin that as evidence that he must be right-wing.
 
It's a song associated with leftist politics, practically the anthem of Antifa. Quoting it is a sign of leftism.
Antifa isn't an organization, hence it doesn't have an anthem. And context matters: that song is also associated with a computer game that's popular in right-wing circles.
Your point is? I have a very good friend form college. Conservative. Worked last year for Americans for Prosperity. Her daughter leans left. I have niece (my wife's side) who's quite conservative. Her kids are somewhat apolitical, but seem to lean mildly left. Her brother is a Bernie Bro.
You know that because you know this person. The "friend" in the news story has never even been identified, nor has it ever been established that he really was friends with the shooter or even knew him at all. Governor Cox, we do know for a fact did not know him at all. People we know did really know him say he was a right-winger.
The governor is quoting what the investigators ahve been told by family, friends, and who knows who else?
You have no way of knowing that. If it weren't exactly what you want to hear, you wouldn't be buying it either - and you'd be right.
I hate to break it to you, but that picture is photoshopped. (So is the one of him wearing a shirt with left-wing slogans. Both were photoshopped onto the same plain shirt. Not bad photoshop jobs.
If that's true, then I can only see that as an admission that your "evidence" is wrong as well. Whether it's a photoshopped picture or an unsubstantiated quote in a news story, neither one stands up at all to what we do know for a fact about him.
 
Antifa isn't an organization, hence it doesn't have an anthem. And context matters: that song is also associated with a computer game that's popular in right-wing circles.
Again, Antifa isn't a centralized organization, but it is an organization. It's not just a bunch of random people, and yes, that song is the one that is most uses and practically serves as an anthem.

You are trying desperately to make the evidence fit your pre-conceived notions. He's not likely using it from a video game. It's all but anthemic in left-wing circles.

You know that because you know this person. The "friend" in the news story has never even been identified, nor has it ever been established that he really was friends with the shooter or even knew him at all. Governor Cox, we do know for a fact did not know him at all. People we know did really know him say he was a right-winger.
I know that because I SAW THE VIDEO. You might try that sometime. The friend in the video was from his brief time in college and confirmed essentially what the friend quoted in The Guardian said, which matches what his parents have said.

The Governor has told several media outlets and a press conference that according to the information fathered by their investigation, Robinson was deeply indoctrinated into left-wing politics.

His parents also said that he had veered into left-wing, anti-conservative politics in recent years. He had attacked Kirk specifically as "full of hate." That's the verbiage a person of the left uses. If he were a Groyper, as you seem very much to want, he'd use phrases more like Zionist, neocon, cuck (or cuckservative), phraseology like that.
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You have no way of knowing that. If it weren't exactly what you want to hear, you wouldn't be buying it either - and you'd be right.
Unlike you, I follow the evidence wherever it leads, without a preconceived narrative. The evidence is all pointing to left-wing activism right now. We'll know more on Tuesday when he's arraigned, but as of now, that's what teh evidence shows.

If that's true, then I can only see that as an admission that your "evidence" is wrong as well. Whether it's a photoshopped picture or an unsubstantiated quote in a news story, neither one stands up at all to what we do know for a fact about him.
Wrong based on what? That it doesn't agree with your narrative? People online hvae dug up the original photo it was photoshopped from.
 
Again, Antifa isn't a centralized organization, but it is an organization.
That just is not true. It's a movement, but it is not an organization by any reasonable definition of the word.
It's not just a bunch of random people, and yes, that song is the one that is most uses and practically serves as an anthem.
In Italy, not in Utah.
You are trying desperately to make the evidence fit your pre-conceived notions.
Physician, heal thyself.
He's not likely using it from a video game. It's all but anthemic in left-wing circles.
If that were true, I would have known the song before last week.
I know that because I SAW THE VIDEO. You might try that sometime.
In another thread (or maybe it was this one - don't know, don't care) you accused me of using doctored videos as cites. Hmm...
The friend in the video was from his brief time in college and confirmed essentially what the friend quoted in The Guardian said, which matches what his parents have said.
That's not what I read in the Guardian.
The Governor has told several media outlets and a press conference that according to the information fathered by their investigation, Robinson was deeply indoctrinated into left-wing politics.
The governor is also a right-wing Republican, of course he wants this guy to be a left-winger. Besides, since when is everything a politician says to be accepted without question? Give me a break.
His parents also said that he had veered into left-wing, anti-conservative politics in recent years.
Even if they really did say that (and I have not seen as much from a credible source), look no further than your very own tendency to call anyone even an inch left of center a radical leftist. Chances are they do the same.
He had attacked Kirk specifically as "full of hate." That's the verbiage a person of the left uses. If he were a Groyper, as you seem very much to want, he'd use phrases more like Zionist, neocon, cuck (or cuckservative), phraseology like that.
That he isn't known to have used those particular words don't prove anything.
Unlike you, I follow the evidence wherever it leads, without a preconceived narrative.
Are you seriously that lacking in self awareness?!

Yeah, you probably are.


The evidence is all pointing to left-wing activism right now.
No it isn't. The evidence you want to see is. The whole story is quite different.
 
That just is not true. It's a movement, but it is not an organization by any reasonable definition of the word.

In Italy, not in Utah.

Physician, heal thyself.

If that were true, I would have known the song before last week.

In another thread (or maybe it was this one - don't know, don't care) you accused me of using doctored videos as cites. Hmm...

That's not what I read in the Guardian.

The governor is also a right-wing Republican, of course he wants this guy to be a left-winger. Besides, since when is everything a politician says to be accepted without question? Give me a break.

Even if they really did say that (and I have not seen as much from a credible source), look no further than your very own tendency to call anyone even an inch left of center a radical leftist. Chances are they do the same.

That he isn't known to have used those particular words don't prove anything.

Are you seriously that lacking in self awareness?!

Yeah, you probably are.



No it isn't. The evidence you want to see is. The whole story is quite different.

Antifa is a movement similar to taking a shit
 
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2...-of-a-larger-left-wing-terror-effort-n4943701

Following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, there was a sigh of relief when the suspected shooter finally got caught. But now, according to reports, investigators are looking into whether this was more than just a radicalized young man with a gun and perhaps part of a bigger conspiracy.

While the alleged shooter, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, sits in custody, the FBI’s probe is beginning to suggest that this was no simple case of a disturbed individual snapping. What’s emerging looks far more deliberate, disturbingly organized, and rooted in the leftist networks that have turned political violence into a feature of modern activism.

According to a report from the New York Post, investigators are digging deeper than just the accused shooter; they’re looking at potential ties to radical leftist groups. The probe is targeting both local outfits in Utah and online networks, including users on the gaming platform Steam.

One organization in particular, Armed Queers SLC, is drawing attention after it suddenly pulled its Instagram account following Kirk’s assassination. Officials now want to know: Was this group merely cheering from the sidelines, or did it know more than it's letting on?
 
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...r-the-weekendand-theyre-crashing-out-n2663329

It’s still mind-boggling that the Left ate this up: Charlie Kirk’s assassin suspect, Tyler Robinsin, was really a conservative, a Kirk supporter, and was such a die-hard that he shot him. That’s what they went with for about 24-36 hours.
In a disturbing development following the assassination of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk, sources now reveal that alleged shooter Tyler Robinson was living with a transgender partner at the time of the attack. According to individuals familiar with the investigation, the partner — a biological male transitioning to female — has been cooperating fully with federal authorities.

Sources say the FBI obtained text messages and other communications between Robinson and this individual, which helped confirm Robinson’s identity as the shooter. These digital records reportedly played a key role in the early stages of the investigation, allowing federal agents to move quickly and secure evidence.

The addiction to propping up the manufactured narrative is the new mental health crisis, and it afflicts only left-wingers.
 
https://townhall.com/columnists/kur...dered-charlie-kirk-and-they-must-pay-n2663112

Like the great Andrew Breitbart, another visionary taken from us far too soon, he inspired thousands, perhaps millions, of patriots. The ripples from Charlie Kirk will go on in our politics and culture for decades. His work helped bring Donald Trump back into the White House. Countless young people got into the movement through Turning Point USA, just like countless folks got their start in this movement through Andrew Breitbart. There’s going to be a Turning Point USA president somewhere down the road, someone who got his start at one of Charlie’s conventions, listening to a podcast, or attending a campus visit.

He’s not going to be forgotten. They may have killed him, but they’re not going to kill the movement he started. Oh no, they don’t get to win. They don’t get to murder their way to victory. They don’t get to scare us, intimidate us, or decapitate our movement. We’re going to double down.

No, we’re going to triple down.

The Democrats are out there with their weasel words today, taking a pause from calling all of us fascists – including, just the day before he was murdered, Charlie Kirk specifically – to express their sorrow and grief. They mouth the right words, but their words are empty. They are lies. The leftists are sorry that they’re going to get tarred, appropriately, with the same brush as this killer(s). After their acolytes tried to wipe out a Republican congressional softball team, went rampaging through various Christian schools, and attempted twice to kill Donald Trump – succeeding in killing Corey Comperatore – their lamentations ring empty. I don’t believe a damn word of them. They call us Nazis – what do you think they want to happen to us?

We must mourn, but we must rally. We’re feeling a cold fury that other enemies of America have felt the effects in the past – including the semi-humans who attacked us 24 years less a day ago. But these are domestic enemies, and indulging our fury is not the answer. Oh, that doesn’t mean we don’t buy guns and ammunition. That doesn’t mean we don’t lawfully conceal carry. That doesn’t mean we don’t meet direct violence with lawful violence in return. We can and will defend ourselves.

The leftists are giggling with delight. This is no surprise to us in the fight, but normals will be repelled – for that reason, we should encourage leftists to share their malignancy freely. But understand that they hate you and literally want you to be murdered.

We will be tempted to hit back to hurt people who’ve hurt us. That’s not the way. As much as we want to take out our anger on the left, as much as we want to strike out and lash out, that’s not what our Constitution demands. That’s not what Charlie Kirk would want. We’re not terrorists and we’re not murderers. We’ve got the Constitution. Our Constitution addresses how to deal with this situation. We have laws, and we control the federal law enforcement apparatus. We will turn its full weight against not only the perpetrators of this crime, but the people behind the web of subversion from the left.
 
I'm wondering where the idjit who claimed that all of this would be old news by today, went.
 

FBI Investigating Utah-Based Tranny Militia Group With Foreknowledge of Kirk Assassination​

By J.D. Rucker • Sep. 15, 2025

(Based Underground)—The assassination of conservative firebrand Charlie Kirk at a Utah Valley University event has thrust federal investigators into a web of radical activism, with the FBI now probing a local trans militia group suspected of having prior knowledge of the plot.

Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect charged with aggravated murder in Kirk’s death on September 10, remains silent in custody, but digital trails and witness accounts are painting a picture of a young man pulled into fringe ideologies far removed from his family’s Trump-supporting roots.

Robinson’s path to violence appears to have intersected with Utah’s underbelly of far-left organizing, where groups blending transgender advocacy with militant rhetoric have drawn scrutiny. Sources familiar with the case tell Axios that agents are sifting through communications between Robinson and members of at least one such outfit, known for its armed training sessions and vocal opposition to figures like Kirk, whose Turning Point USA events often critiqued gender ideology. One deleted social media profile from a group fitting this description has already raised red flags, prompting questions about what warnings, if any, were ignored in the lead-up to the shooting.

At the center of the emerging details is Robinson’s transgender romantic partner, who shared a home with him and has since become a key cooperative figure in the probe. Phone messages recovered from the partner show Robinson boasting about concealing the rifle in campus bushes post-shooting, a chilling admission that surfaced only after the fact.

https://thelibertydaily.com/fbi-investigating-utah-based-tranny-militia-group-foreknowledge/
 

FBI Investigating Utah-Based Tranny Militia Group With Foreknowledge of Kirk Assassination​

By J.D. Rucker • Sep. 15, 2025

(Based Underground)—The assassination of conservative firebrand Charlie Kirk at a Utah Valley University event has thrust federal investigators into a web of radical activism, with the FBI now probing a local trans militia group suspected of having prior knowledge of the plot.

Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect charged with aggravated murder in Kirk’s death on September 10, remains silent in custody, but digital trails and witness accounts are painting a picture of a young man pulled into fringe ideologies far removed from his family’s Trump-supporting roots.

Robinson’s path to violence appears to have intersected with Utah’s underbelly of far-left organizing, where groups blending transgender advocacy with militant rhetoric have drawn scrutiny. Sources familiar with the case tell Axios that agents are sifting through communications between Robinson and members of at least one such outfit, known for its armed training sessions and vocal opposition to figures like Kirk, whose Turning Point USA events often critiqued gender ideology. One deleted social media profile from a group fitting this description has already raised red flags, prompting questions about what warnings, if any, were ignored in the lead-up to the shooting.

At the center of the emerging details is Robinson’s transgender romantic partner, who shared a home with him and has since become a key cooperative figure in the probe. Phone messages recovered from the partner show Robinson boasting about concealing the rifle in campus bushes post-shooting, a chilling admission that surfaced only after the fact.

https://thelibertydaily.com/fbi-investigating-utah-based-tranny-militia-group-foreknowledge/
Epstein
 
Antifa are now engraving every round of ammunition with ideological phrases, apparently.

No wonder they don't get to fire their guns very much. How do they get to be such good shots?

Have you met a single person from Antifa?
And, you realize, right, that members of groups/organizations r not identical?
 
Have you met a single person from Antifa?
And, you realize, right, that members of groups/organizations r not identical?
There is no such organization as 'Antifa', it is a collaboration between people who happen to think that fascism is bad.
 
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