Seeking a Muse (closed)

[AlinaX]

Apropos?

 

[lovecraft68]

Apropos?

Stop posting, can't you see they edited the thread title to say closed?

 

[lovecraft68]

I thought @Djmac1031 was being helpful.

Then again, I am one of the idiots, so there's always that.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

I'm just wondering how this fits in with all the opinions in the "Are we a community" thread.

 

[Djmac1031]

I thought @Djmac1031 was being helpful.

Then again, I am one of the idiots, so there's always that.

Well I wasn't very helpful at all, apparently.

 

[NotWise]

I'm just wondering how this fits in with all the opinions in the "Are we a community" thread.

@Djmac1031's first post was helpful, but what followed shows why people new to AH find the community so hard to deal with.

I wish there were some way to filter thread starters before they're published that would pop up a banner saying something like, "if you're a guy looking for help from a woman, then expect to be ridiculed." The system already asks a question about similar threads. What's one more?

 

[Djmac1031]

@Djmac1031's first post was helpful, but what followed shows why people new to AH find the community so hard to deal with.

I suppose it would have been more helpful to include the suggestion to have a thick skin if you wanna hang out here.

 

[Djmac1031]

Thank you @Djmac1031 for your advice.

@Poeticwolf , on the off chance you return.

I offered my advice because that's how collaborations work. Two mutual minds who trust each other coming together naturally.

You cant FORCE a collaboration, and they don't happen just because you ask.

You also need to understand: WE SEE THIS ALL THE TIME.

Not just the collaboration request post. But its always, ALWAYS a request from a man looking for a WOMAN.

Not another author regardless of gender. ALWAYS a woman.

Your request was more flowery than some, but it boiled down to the same thing: a random guy no one here knows asking women if they wanna write sex stories with him.

Now, only you know if your intent was pure. But ask yourself, honestly: what if anything about your post would make a woman trust you enough to reach out?

That's why I suggested being active in the forum. Let the others here get to know you. Prove yourself someone interested in becoming part of the community and not just someone trolling for women.

You can still do that. Be a part of the community.

YES, some of us are assholes. Yes, we tend to be suspicious of posts like yours.

So... stick around. Prove us wrong.

Or not. Your call.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

I'm just wondering how this fits in with all the opinions in the "Are we a community" thread.

@Djmac1031's first post was helpful, but what followed shows why people new to AH find the community so hard to deal with.

The more I lurk the more I notice that AH discusses writing in the same way 4chan's /v/ discusses videogames. That's my theory anyway.

 

[NotWise]

I suppose it would have been more helpful to include the suggestion to have a thick skin if you wanna hang out here.

That would be useful, and probably easier than getting people to be less abrasive.

 

[NuclearFairy]

I suppose it would have been more helpful to include the suggestion to have a thick skin if you wanna hang out here.

I've never felt the need to have a thick skin here.

But then when I'm seeking help for something I'm assuming that other people might know the subject better than me...

Although there are a handful of members who I try to avoid directly interacting with.

 

[iwatchus]

I've observed that most dudes who will explain things are quite happy to do it authoritatively to other dudes as well (it's not gay!). Or to any audience that can't or won't escape, really.

I thought it was just women so cursed.

 

[Djmac1031]

Although there are a handful of members who I try to avoid directly interacting with.

trust me I can relate.

 

[SinclairGroupLLP]

I can’t wait for PSG to read this thread, lol

 

[Tio_Narratore]

I've been both pleased and distressed at how non-abrasive people are here compared to some years ago.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

I blame the Greeks. If there had just been another muse named Steve or something we'd all have a lot more options for where to seek inspiration.

Isn't he the Muse of Mansplaining?

 

[NuclearFairy]

Isn't he the Muse of Mansplaining?

I thought that was Kyle.

 

[MelissaBaby]

I'd add to what @Djmac1031 posted, and point out that women on this site tend to be cautious, understandably so. I'm not suggesting you are a creep, but there are a lot floating around on Lit, and many (perhaps most) have encountered creeps. As a man, I can't answer for their reaction to your request, but I can predict that a lot of women will be thinking, 'here we go again...'

I was thinking, "What the hell is in it for me?"

 

[Kelliezgirl]

The more I lurk the more I notice that AH discusses writing in the same way 4chan's /v/ discusses videogames. That's my theory anyway.

I've never ventured to that corner of the internet, so I'm not sure how to take that.

 

[Kelliezgirl]

I was thinking, "What the hell is in it for me?"

Great point.

 

[joy_of_cooking]

@Poeticwolf I've also gotten a lot of help by posting specific questions for whoever will answer.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

I've never ventured to that corner of the internet, so I'm not sure how to take that.

The tl;dr about /v/ is that it was more about fighting and less about videogames. AH sometimes feels like that (thus that shitposting part of me turns on); otherwise why would the thread you made a reference to exist?

 

[Kelliezgirl]

@Poeticwolf I've also gotten a lot of help by posting specific questions for whoever will answer.

This is the answer. Ask questions, participate, get to know some people, then think about collaboration.

 

[Omenainen]

Ah, but he’s not looking to collaborate, he just wants someone to admire his work and inspire him. So tedious if the woman wrote something too, you know? He might need to read it!

 

[Bramblethorn]

Thank you @Djmac1031 for your advice.

As for the rest of you, thank you for offering your opinions as to why I asked for a woman's help.

I asked for a woman because the stories I want to write involve the main character being a WOMAN. I wanted her perspective to make it believable and relatable. I have worked with men in the past and it didn't work out.

There's a scene in the book "Lair of the White Worm" where the heroes have just figured out that their neighbour, Lady Marsh, is in fact a shape-shifting prehistoric serpent-dinosaur-thing, a "semi-human monster out of the pit". So they're trying to figure out what to do about her, and the Temu-Van-Helsing character says:

"Being feminine, she will probably over-reach herself. Our strong game will be to play our masculine against her feminine."

She's not human, not even mammalian, and yet they're depending on Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus logic to see them through. I think of that when I see questions like this.

I can understand it when an author's looking for something really specific or obscure. What's it like to be a woman astronaut? I don't know any women astronauts; if I wanted to write that convincingly, I might go look for one to consult on my story.

But just about everybody who's old enough to be on Literotica has met countless women and countless men, had plenty of time to hang out with both and get an idea of what makes them tick. If "woman" still feels like such an alien species that it requires a Woman Consultant, then something is up, and that something doesn't bode well for whoever might volunteer for the job.